Homeopathy, does it work?

Hypno

Crow
Quaestum said:
I've tried homeopathic therapies about 10 - 12 years ago to cure my allergies - never to any avail, so I'm not inclined to spend any money on it for possible future health issues. I tend to agree with the view that it "works" as placebo on some people.

On a side note, I do not believe taking prescription medicine unless absolutely necessary (ie to kill a bacterial infection) is any good for our bodies. The best approach is the simplest one: Live a healthy life wherever possible.

some things work, some things don't, its all a matter of your perspective.

I have suffered from allergies, sinus infections, and osteo arthritis for years. Took prescription medicine, antibiotics, etc. for years. the antibiotics screwed up my intestinal bacteria and made me feel lethargic for years.

I have started eating better. Little gluten, more veggies. I supplement with spirulina and tumeric, and my sinus infections and allergies have almost gone away, and my arthritis pain is reduced about 80%.

so in my case i would say a lot of traditional medicine is a placebo or worse, since not only is it expensive but its unhealthy.

I don't know what the term is for what i did - nutrition? herbalism? I don't know, but it worked for me. I feel much healthier. And I learned it from people who call themselves homeopaths.

Of course, there are homeopaths that are complete quacks too.

My point is there is value and dangers in both. Its not an all or none thing. There is more truth in homeopathy, and more falsity in corporate medicine, than is acknowledged.
 

Ringo

Pelican
Gold Member
I've posted about my doc before.

My family and I have had excellent results with homeopathy for chronic issues, specifically skin rashes and breathing allergies.

In my case I'm skeptical about a placebo effect because during the treatment I was a kid who couldn't care less about it, so I don't see how I would have been persuaded to improve my own condition.

There was also no change in diet - from what I remember, that topic was not given particular attention.

The only other explanation I could see, besides de medication actually working, was that my issues had an emotional component to them. My crisis would be stronger and more frequent if I was excited or anxious about something. Since the doc's appointments were also like therapy (a lot of talking about my life and non-relates subjects), I reckon if the issues were emotion based then the talking might have helped big time.

I'm a believer in homeopathy for the treatment of chronic and some autoimmune issues but I wouldn't use for the flu, cancer or any fast acting disease.
 

Quaestum

Sparrow
Zelcorpion said:
I cured all my allergies by cutting out the most toxic foods - artificial sweeteners, MSG (it's in many many foods and a lot of restaurant foods). I treated my pollen allergies just with 10-20.000 mg per day when I had the allergy and it went fine. Within 4 years all allergies disappeared. I had those starting in my mid 20s, so I was born with zero. I first got pollen allergies and then it went to peanuts. Now I got rid of them and I read that this is how it works. [...]

10 - 20 mg of...the allergen I presume? I'm currently undergoing hyposensitisation (immunotherapy) which is - thinking about it - somehow the same as you get the allergen directly injected into your body. I've been doing it almost a year now, albeit with a long break due to my clinic's supplier screwing up; I have yet to see results worth mentioning. Mind you I've had peanut allergy since I'm born and the pollen came up around age 10.

In NZ it's not paid for by health insurance, I wonder whether this qualifies as "homeopathy", to come back to the topic.
 
Quaestum said:
Zelcorpion said:
I cured all my allergies by cutting out the most toxic foods - artificial sweeteners, MSG (it's in many many foods and a lot of restaurant foods). I treated my pollen allergies just with 10-20.000 mg per day when I had the allergy and it went fine. Within 4 years all allergies disappeared. I had those starting in my mid 20s, so I was born with zero. I first got pollen allergies and then it went to peanuts. Now I got rid of them and I read that this is how it works. [...]

10 - 20 mg of...the allergen I presume? I'm currently undergoing hyposensitisation (immunotherapy) which is - thinking about it - somehow the same as you get the allergen directly injected into your body. I've been doing it almost a year now, albeit with a long break due to my clinic's supplier screwing up; I have yet to see results worth mentioning. Mind you I've had peanut allergy since I'm born and the pollen came up around age 10.

In NZ it's not paid for by health insurance, I wonder whether this qualifies as "homeopathy", to come back to the topic.

Nah nah - allergy treatment via vitamin C has nothing to do with the pollen or allergens.

10.000mg to 20.000mg of pure vitamin C I took to suppress all the negative reaction to pollen. Vitamin C at that dose works by turbo-boosting your immune system so that the body deals with the allergy - regardless of allergen - by itself. That is how orthomolecular medicine works:

http://www.doctoryourself.com/allergies_2.html

The funny part is that 10.000-20.000mg of vitamin C taken without my allergies would have resulted in a saturation reaction of my body (strange painless diarrhea like pissing crap - passes in 15 minutes). During my allergies, my body needed that vitamin C to feel good and not have a sneeze fest and itching going on. I was absolutely clear while standing surrounded by birch trees.

But as I said - that was 3 years ago. I am 99% free of it by now.
 

Quaestum

Sparrow
Very interesting, thank you! I'll definitely try this next summer once my pollen allergy kicks in.

You're lucky that the allergies just disappeared. Food has definitely a lot to do with it though, I had eczema all my life and once I found out my body doesn't like cow milk, I stopped drinking it and now, it's essentially gone.
 

cosworth

Robin
I used to think homeopathy , herbalist and acupuncture was big con until i had something wrong with me that traditional medicine just couldn't fix.
I got a UTI from a blow job , the antibiotics didnt work and its turned into a full urinary infection. epididymitis , prostitius etc it was not pleasant ! Drinking shit loads of broccoli juice seemed to clear it.
However i was left an inflamed testicle and some discomfort in the urinary tract. I spent a fortune on doctors , all said nothing they could do just left over inflammation and I'd have to live with it ! After a year of living with it I started to investigate alternatives.

I found a medical doctor who had re trained in homeopathy / herbalist after he had a brain tumor.

He was excellent and after around 13 months of treatment I was 98% back to normal. I think a lot depends on how good your homeopath is, he had a machine that would energise water and I would drop them into a drink twice a day. Some treatments worked, some didnt , some made it worse !

Call it the placebo effect but until you have experienced it , I wouldn't dismiss it .
 

rorochido1

Sparrow
Homeopathy seems to work on light conditions: constipation, allergies, headaches. Other stronger conditions seem to work on children best. We are like onions with layers and the older you are the longer the treatment takes effect.
 
Leonard D Neubache said:
Zelcorpion said:
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I cured all my allergies by cutting out the most toxic foods - artificial sweeteners, MSG (it's in many many foods and a lot of restaurant foods). I treated my pollen allergies just with 10-20.000 mg per day when I had the allergy and it went fine. Within 4 years all allergies disappeared. I had those starting in my mid 20s, so I was born with zero. I first got pollen allergies and then it went to peanuts. Now I got rid of them and I read that this is how it works.

Also I am taking high-potency supplements since a few years, so that probably helps also. Allergies if they are already strong don't disappear over night, but the body gets rid of the toxins which caused them (usually unrelated to what you are allergic to) and then you are free once again.

This is what I mean about homeopaths being free to diagnose issues that are taboo for mainstream doctors to suggest.

When I was a kid I had an allergy to milk products and wheat products. They caused me serious breathing problems at the time. Hospital serious. But the orthodoxy was that there was no causal link between a patient's diet and their asthma so we were sternly told that all anecdotal evidence of my airways contracting every time I drank milk was either fictitious or wildly coincidental. The word of the medical association was law, and to contradict is was to tear up your practitioner's license. Better for people to die than question the orthodoxy.

So I was taken to a homeopath that told us, yes, diet can affect asthma. Stop eating wheat products and drinking/eating milk products. One year later my monthly trips to the ED had been reduced to zero and I was doing marathons with the rest of the kids.

The flaw with modern medicine is not that it's lacking in options. The flaw is that they'd rather see you die than say "we were wrong" or "we don't know".

cosworth said:
I used to think homeopathy , herbalist and acupuncture was big con until i had something wrong with me that traditional medicine just couldn't fix.
I got a UTI from a blow job , the antibiotics didnt work and its turned into a full urinary infection. epididymitis , prostitius etc it was not pleasant ! Drinking shit loads of broccoli juice seemed to clear it.
However i was left an inflamed testicle and some discomfort in the urinary tract. I spent a fortune on doctors , all said nothing they could do just left over inflammation and I'd have to live with it ! After a year of living with it I started to investigate alternatives.

I found a medical doctor who had re trained in homeopathy / herbalist after he had a brain tumor.

He was excellent and after around 13 months of treatment I was 98% back to normal. I think a lot depends on how good your homeopath is, he had a machine that would energise water and I would drop them into a drink twice a day. Some treatments worked, some didnt , some made it worse !

Call it the placebo effect but until you have experienced it , I wouldn't dismiss it .

Did they say which virus in particular caused your epididymitis? I have had the same thing here but I'm pretty sure it wasn't caused by an STD. Try the pulsatilla & apis mellifica 30 combo, it helped mine heal back up 100% in about two weeks.
 
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