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<blockquote data-quote="Jacob Robinson" data-source="post: 1376019" data-attributes="member: 18849"><p>Surprised that no one has mentioned Bill Ayers in this thread. Strong ties to Obama, and probably the ghost writer of one of his "autobiographies." He was the Weather Underground terrorist who got out of jail thanks to his daddy's money. Then instead of going back to blowing up police stations and encouraging the murdering of cops, etc., he became an educational theorist. Why? To brainwash the youth into blowing up police stations and murdering cops. Why do the dirty work yourself when you can get a generation of kids to do it for you? All these Antifa and BLM mobs -- what did we think was going to come out of public schools with people like behind the scenes?</p><p></p><p>Here is a link from 7 years ago on what this domestic terrorist was contributing to public education: <a href="https://townhall.com/columnists/marygrabar/2013/05/15/bill-ayers-bringing-down-america-destroying-education-n1596641" target="_blank">https://townhall.com/columnists/marygrabar/2013/05/15/bill-ayers-bringing-down-america-destroying-education-n1596641</a></p><p></p><p>My grandmother used to be a school teacher. When she went to college (back in the 1930's) a teacher went to college for 2 years. Those were the teachers who taught the scientists who manned the Manhattan project. Then it was moved to 3. Then to 4. Now they want teachers to have masters degrees. Meanwhile the amount of learning has gone down, and down, and down. </p><p></p><p>My wife's grandfather was the secretary of a bank -- no college, just a high school diploma and a correspondence course. Today that position would require an MBA. I once worked at a fabrication company that took on some plate steel work to stay busy--the mechanical engineer assigned to it could not figure out how to lay out the plant steel for fabrication (square to round transition). I offered to call up my retired grand father who only made to the 8th grade to show him how to do it, but he settled for borrowing a book that my grandfather had given to me. People who have examined high school texts from circa 1900 have remarked that it would be college, or even graduate level, work today. </p><p></p><p>As more money and such pours into public education the students learn less and less, but at least they are being brainwashed into becoming American and God hating zombies. Students back then were so patriotic, native Americans lined up with their 30-30's on their reservations to enlist to fight the Japs the day after Pearl Harbor. Now, if a hostile country waged a successful sneak attack on America, a lot of young people would cheer and ask how they could help with the next sneak attack.</p><p></p><p>Why even have public education as we know it today? If people cannot home school, then why not take the national average $11,000 per student per year thrown at radical teachers unions and instead ~10 families pick a tutor to educate their 10 students in the tutor's living room. $110,000 a year for less than 8 hours a day, during the school term only, working out of their home, would bring out some of the very best of the best--I would be tempted to do that. A class size of 10 would allow for really good, individualized, instruction. For text books, just re-print whatever they were using a hundred years ago for math, English, etc. In later grades, teach in quarters and teachers could specialize. I know of a professional chemist, and a engineer who can tutor up to differential equations, both getting close to retirement. They would be thrilled to teach young kids what they know. You would have 18 year olds ready for careers or ready for any sort of college work. And sure, some families would squander the opportunity and end up with a poorly educated student...just like today.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jacob Robinson, post: 1376019, member: 18849"] Surprised that no one has mentioned Bill Ayers in this thread. Strong ties to Obama, and probably the ghost writer of one of his "autobiographies." He was the Weather Underground terrorist who got out of jail thanks to his daddy's money. Then instead of going back to blowing up police stations and encouraging the murdering of cops, etc., he became an educational theorist. Why? To brainwash the youth into blowing up police stations and murdering cops. Why do the dirty work yourself when you can get a generation of kids to do it for you? All these Antifa and BLM mobs -- what did we think was going to come out of public schools with people like behind the scenes? Here is a link from 7 years ago on what this domestic terrorist was contributing to public education: [URL]https://townhall.com/columnists/marygrabar/2013/05/15/bill-ayers-bringing-down-america-destroying-education-n1596641[/URL] My grandmother used to be a school teacher. When she went to college (back in the 1930's) a teacher went to college for 2 years. Those were the teachers who taught the scientists who manned the Manhattan project. Then it was moved to 3. Then to 4. Now they want teachers to have masters degrees. Meanwhile the amount of learning has gone down, and down, and down. My wife's grandfather was the secretary of a bank -- no college, just a high school diploma and a correspondence course. Today that position would require an MBA. I once worked at a fabrication company that took on some plate steel work to stay busy--the mechanical engineer assigned to it could not figure out how to lay out the plant steel for fabrication (square to round transition). I offered to call up my retired grand father who only made to the 8th grade to show him how to do it, but he settled for borrowing a book that my grandfather had given to me. People who have examined high school texts from circa 1900 have remarked that it would be college, or even graduate level, work today. As more money and such pours into public education the students learn less and less, but at least they are being brainwashed into becoming American and God hating zombies. Students back then were so patriotic, native Americans lined up with their 30-30's on their reservations to enlist to fight the Japs the day after Pearl Harbor. Now, if a hostile country waged a successful sneak attack on America, a lot of young people would cheer and ask how they could help with the next sneak attack. Why even have public education as we know it today? If people cannot home school, then why not take the national average $11,000 per student per year thrown at radical teachers unions and instead ~10 families pick a tutor to educate their 10 students in the tutor's living room. $110,000 a year for less than 8 hours a day, during the school term only, working out of their home, would bring out some of the very best of the best--I would be tempted to do that. A class size of 10 would allow for really good, individualized, instruction. For text books, just re-print whatever they were using a hundred years ago for math, English, etc. In later grades, teach in quarters and teachers could specialize. I know of a professional chemist, and a engineer who can tutor up to differential equations, both getting close to retirement. They would be thrilled to teach young kids what they know. You would have 18 year olds ready for careers or ready for any sort of college work. And sure, some families would squander the opportunity and end up with a poorly educated student...just like today. [/QUOTE]
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