Hooters-style breastaurants seeing strong sales

[MikeCF]

You can make more money telling lies than telling truths.

Hooters sells men the fantasy that they are sexually relevant to attractive women.

 

[Timoteo]

I went to the Hooters on West 56th street in NYC once out of curiousity years ago. It's an amusing place, and I guess their goal is to give gumps a place to go to be "men." Put the games on the tv, and have scantily-clad girls serve them and chat them up. A nice formula. Women won't want to go there because they "exploit" women (the real reason is the waitresses are hotter than them, and can't stand to be in any place where other women will get more attention). The one in Manhattan, because of the location, draws a lot of suits for lunch and after work, tourists, and guys that want to watch games.

Does anyone know if Hooters Air is still in operation? They've also branched into hotels - has anyone here stayed at one yet?

 

[Excelsior]

Hooters sells men the fantasy that they are sexually relevant to attractive women.

Not unlike mainstream porn, though it is admittedly much less controversial.

 

[MrXY]

I've eaten at Hooters twice in my life-both times the food was appalling.

From my observation, guys who go to Hooters are either office betas or sports fan rubes, who are thrilled to have an attractive girl even speak to them.

There are two Hooters in my town and this thread has given me an idea for a game experiment.

I'll go to Hooters once or twice a week, drink a couple of beers, and practice total hardcore asshole/ignore game on the waitresses. Since they are used to nothing but supplication and pervy looks from the usual clientele, it might be fun to see what responses I get. Maybe I'll even go suited down. Should be a real "hoot."

 

[porscheguy]

I went to the Hooters on West 56th street in NYC once out of curiousity years ago. It's an amusing place, and I guess their goal is to give gumps a place to go to be "men." Put the games on the tv, and have scantily-clad girls serve them and chat them up. A nice formula. Women won't want to go there because they "exploit" women (the real reason is the waitresses are hotter than them, and can't stand to be in any place where other women will get more attention). The one in Manhattan, because of the location, draws a lot of suits for lunch and after work, tourists, and guys that want to watch games.

Does anyone know if Hooters Air is still in operation? They've also branched into hotels - has anyone here stayed at one yet?

I think Hooters Air died with Bob Brooks.

 

[Basil Ransom]

I could never put my finger on this dynamic during my first year or two of college, but you've described it perfectly here.

I think it's a combination of things:

1. The girls are potential friends already yoked into the same social network.
2. These guys rarely bang strangers. It's like you kissing your first or second girl ever - the kiss is an accomplishment to you. Once you've done it 10, 50 times, it's nothing. So your threshold for success is much higher.
3. These guys like having female friends.
4. Plenty of guys feel a little guilt over intentional sport-fucking. It's cool to do it when you're all boozed-up. But to pursue it single-mindedly, without getting wasted - 'that's creepy dude.'

Seems a lot less common among black guys, compared to other guys.

Regarding #3, I appreciate being friends with a girl, but I find friendships with most American women draining. You crack jokes, she laughs, but there's no sex. If she can pull her weight conversationally, great. But usually, she can't, and I end up just feeling like a tool playing in to her attention whoring ways.

'Bang or Bust.'

I'll go to Hooters once or twice a week, drink a couple of beers, and practice total hardcore asshole/ignore game on the waitresses. Since they are used to nothing but supplication and pervy looks from the usual clientele, it might be fun to see what responses I get. Maybe I'll even go suited down. Should be a real "hoot."

I wouldn't expect much. That's like playing aloof game on OKCupid. Creating value through scarcity doesn't work well when she's got a constant stream of new respectable dudes hitting on her. Unless you had obvious super high value to begin with. Just like how you wouldn't care if some 8 ignored you when you've got three more of 'em in the hopper.

 

[teh_skeeze]

I can relate to Athlone's story. I was getting a string of okcupid stinkers and made the mistake of asking a friend about his okc strategy and somehow that resulted into him "taking me under his wing", which I didn't mind humoring until we hit the bars and he started giving me "advice" within earshot of girls, at which point it became irritating. To top it off, here's the advice I got:

1. Always write a really long first message, you'll stand out by sending a three paragraph email instead of just tossing off a couple sentences.

2. Never use humor, you should be serious with girls online.

3. Always make sure to pay for their meal/drinks so they know you can take charge.

Definitely reinforced my theory that "naturals" don't know how they're doing it.

Anyone else feel like they got kicked in the balls reading this?

Anyway, I've been to Hooters several times with my dad (he would call it "Our favorite sports bar"). I hated it so much. The only saving grace was that they had the game on a giant ass TV. So while I'm staring at the tv eating my sub-par buffalo chicken sandwich and curly fries, he's drinking and oggling the sub-par ass (which he admits is sub-par). One time he even tooled me in front of the waitress by teasing me saying I wanted a balloon signed by her, and that my favorite color is green (it's red, his is green. projection?). For the record, I wasn't of drinking age yet. No way in hell that shit would fly today.

I never realized how beta my dad is around attractive women until recently. Be a sarcastic asshole with the fat ugly ones, and shrink with the real talent.

Back on topic, I overheard one of the waitresses that was serving a family of 4 say "I like the families more than the guys that come in here. The guys tip better, but the families are so much nicer."

I'm sure in this case "nicer" means "not obviously eye fucking me, but trying to act like you're not eye fucking me while running that shit you call game".

 

[Andreas]

So basically what we learn from this story is that beautiful women are the most powerful marketing tools ever used.

Who buys a crappy product twice? People buy into the stupid products that are excellently marketed and then they realize(most of the people) that they are low quality. They won't buy the same crappy product again (except when business men give them the illusion that they are buying something different).

Hooters managed to find a way to sell the same crappy product (their food) many times to customers without much effort into making new marketing strategies.

And the owner probably knows that most men have been conditioned from young age and when they marry that it's ok if you only just stare at beautiful women but not touch. You know, the "Stare but don't touch" rule they use in museums...

By the way....Hooters....Hookers...just saying

 

[Timoteo]

Yes, Hooters sells glorified fast food, like most chain restaurants. They had to package it differently, so yeah, they went with the sure-fire draw - hot chicks. Instead of targeting families, like most of these types of restaurants do, they decided to target it strictly to guys. Dudes don't need fine cuisine when they're watching the game or grabbing a quick lunch. They were so subtle in naming the place, calling it "Hooters," but putting an owl in the logo because going with the obvious, "Titties," would have been inappropriate...HA HA!

 

[soup]

I'd be curious to know more about the type of game that can run on hooters girls.

Maybe dress up all rockstar/hipster with some buds and go to Hooters as a joke. This is a neg on the waitresses, and would separate you from the betas.

 

[Belize King]

I haven't tried to game a Hooters girl. Probably been in one less than 5 times. I am more of a Buffalo Wildwings guy when I watch the Cowboys, boxing, or basketball. I don't think Wildwings girls have the inflated ego like the Hooters girl but they probably get hit on just as often. I play it cool, neg, and ask them where the party is at during the weekend. I've smashed two waitresses but that was in South Texas so I don't know if the same game would play anywhere else.

Interesting business model though. I wonder if I could pull this in Mexico. I didn't see this type of restaruant in Guadalajara. Sex sells in Mexico. Look at Univision, but GDL is pretty conservative. I would probably scout Monterrey and see how well they do there. If great, I would think about opening up a Hooters type and see if I could hit gold. GDL is ripe for it.

 

[DeusLuxMeaEst]

I share the same observations as the other posters. The guys who frequent these restaurants are the same guys who fantasize about women all day but take no action in actually trying to get laid.

I'm not sure what causes this dynamic, but I've met many guys who embodied the characteristics described above.

In the US many men seem to be content being outsiders and observers. They are completely obsessed about sports, music, and other inconsequential things, yet they make no effort to actually improve their lot. There's nothing wrong with liking these things at all, the issue arises when instead of improvement they live vicariously through those they admire. Instead of being inspired, they become stagnant.

The arrogance and ego of some of these guys is also ridiculous. I remember a few years back talking to this kid about how I was reading Bang and it was a book on picking up girls. He's like

"Come on dude, I never had to read a book to pick up girls that's lame."

"How many girls have you slept with?"

"Uhh, I don't know, but enough, I know exactly what I'm doing, look it's not that hard, you don't need a book."

"Ok, see that hot girl over there(I motioned across to the other side of the bar) if you wanted to talk to her what would you do? Actually better yet, go demonstrate what you would do since you claim to have all the answers."

"It doesn't work like that man."

"I know you're single and you told me you haven't been laid in a while, so why not go talk to her."

"I don't go up to them, they have to come to me."

"You're a moron."

Their ego and reality can't take a hit, so they live in a bubble where they think they have all the answers. In reality it's just a BS theory.

 

[Tuthmosis]

"Come on dude, I never had to read a book to pick up girls that's lame."

"How many girls have you slept with?"

"Uhh, I don't know, but enough, I know exactly what I'm doing, look it's not that hard, you don't need a book."

"Ok, see that hot girl over there(I motioned across to the other side of the bar) if you wanted to talk to her what would you do? Actually better yet, go demonstrate what you would do since you claim to have all the answers."

"It doesn't work like that man."

"I know you're single and you told me you haven't been laid in a while, so why not go talk to her."

"I don't go up to them, they have to come to me."

Ugh. I loath bitch-ass dudes like this. Unfortunately, I know a few guys like this. Needless to say, I spend no time with them.

 

[Timoteo]

"I don't go up to them, they have to come to me."

Any non-famous guy that claims to be getting laid this way regularly is lying, and if he is, it's with fatties and fuglies, and various other forms of desperate chicks. Or he's banging hookers.

 

[JayMillz]

Watched this episode and it was pretty interesting.

 

[teh_skeeze]

I have a feeling that the manager in that video gets very little female attention outside of his job. He says "uber" for crying out loud. That just screams "I live in my mom's basement".

 

[Basil Ransom]

I have a feeling that the manager in that video gets very little female attention outside of his job. He says "uber" for crying out loud. That just screams "I live in my mom's basement".

That's the beauty of it - if he weren't a Hooters manager he'd just be fucking fatties. But because he's running a Hooters, I bet he if he tried he'd get to fuck some of those waitresses. Even if it were one in twenty, it'd be a hell of a lot better than any other channel he can tap.

 

[thegmanifesto]

I have a feeling that the manager in that video gets very little female attention outside of his job. He says "uber" for crying out loud. That just screams "I live in my mom's basement".

That's the beauty of it - if he weren't a Hooters manager he'd just be fucking fatties. But because he's running a Hooters, I bet he if he tried he'd get to fuck some of those waitresses. Even if it were one in twenty, it'd be a hell of a lot better than any other channel he can tap.

I watched the video for 2 seconds.

You see these types of weesh guys all across the service industry.

Weesh bouncers, strip club managers/bouncers, etc etc

 

[Basil Ransom]

I have a feeling that the manager in that video gets very little female attention outside of his job. He says "uber" for crying out loud. That just screams "I live in my mom's basement".

That's the beauty of it - if he weren't a Hooters manager he'd just be fucking fatties. But because he's running a Hooters, I bet he if he tried he'd get to fuck some of those waitresses. Even if it were one in twenty, it'd be a hell of a lot better than any other channel he can tap.

I watched the video for 2 seconds.

You see these types of weesh guys all across the service industry.

Weesh bouncers, strip club managers/bouncers, etc etc

Yeah. People like to beat up on corporate executives and all, and there's definitely merit to that. Just as often though, there's some prick just an inch above the bottom of the dung heap, who makes life a living hell for everyone underneath him. This guy is a classic example of that.

One of the worst things about working menial jobs is that odds are good that your boss is a dumb fuck who thinks you are even dumber, and will treat you like shit because he can. Because work is the only place he feels any sense of power - at home, his wife has his balls in a vise, his kids only come to him for money. Girls are repulsed by him because he's a charmless fat fuck. If you ever ask why you have to do something in order to learn something, he'll get all insecure and berate you for 'questioning his authority'.

 

[thegmanifesto]

I have a feeling that the manager in that video gets very little female attention outside of his job. He says "uber" for crying out loud. That just screams "I live in my mom's basement".

That's the beauty of it - if he weren't a Hooters manager he'd just be fucking fatties. But because he's running a Hooters, I bet he if he tried he'd get to fuck some of those waitresses. Even if it were one in twenty, it'd be a hell of a lot better than any other channel he can tap.

I watched the video for 2 seconds.

You see these types of weesh guys all across the service industry.

Weesh bouncers, strip club managers/bouncers, etc etc

Yeah. People like to beat up on corporate executives and all, and there's definitely merit to that. Just as often though, there's some prick just an inch above the bottom of the dung heap, who makes life a living hell for everyone underneath him. This guy is a classic example of that.

One of the worst things about working menial jobs is that odds are good that your boss is a dumb fuck who thinks you are even dumber, and will treat you like shit because he can. Because work is the only place he feels any sense of power - at home, his wife has his balls in a vise, his kids only come to him for money. Girls are repulsed by him because he's a charmless fat fuck. If you ever ask why you have to do something in order to learn something, he'll get all insecure and berate you for 'questioning his authority'.

Yeah, I can admit that I was the all time worst employee ever of any job I ever held.

I always hated my bosses (except a few), and dissed them constantly.