Hooters-style breastaurants seeing strong sales

[Samseau]

Watched this episode and it was pretty interesting.

Holy fuck that was hilarious

 

[teh_skeeze]

I think he's still fucking fatties despite working at Hooters. It's not like this guy is a producer or CEO. He isn't able to offer enough money and doesn't have the fame to be able to pull it off. He comes off as a tryhard.

From what I understand, this guy is par for the course when it comes to lower management at Hooters. The girls only work the job because they make good tips.

 

[Tex Pro]

I think he's still fucking fatties despite working at Hooters. It's not like this guy is a producer or CEO. He isn't able to offer enough money and doesn't have the fame to be able to pull it off. He comes off as a tryhard.

From what I understand, this guy is par for the course when it comes to lower management at Hooters. The girls only work the job because they make good tips.

I saw this episode of Undercover Bosses, and I too think he wasn't getting any action from the Hooters girls. I say "wasn't" because he was fired/let go at the end of the episode due to the antics he pulled when the undercover boss was there. The girls working there seemed repulsed by him and the dude seemed to mainly get off on making the girls do humiliating shit. He called them "primadonnas" or something like that during the episode.

The only way I would have seen this dude getting laid by the chicks there is if he had extored them in some way, like telling them "fuck me or I will fire you." Of course, this is high risk strategy since eventually one of the girls would file a sexual harrassment suit.

 

[ccurtis189]

Every guy I've known who loves these shitty food spots have no game at all. I guess they feel good when the girls flirt with them and show off their body. At least go to a titty bar if you want that.

In Florida they have a restaurant called Winghouse, same setup as Hooters. I come for the Buffalo Chicken sandwich, the babes are just a plus. But they get the same tip I would give any other server at any other establishment.

 

[El Rey]

The running theme in this thread is that most American guys are whack as hell. Think about the guys in your age range in your city. At least for young guys, I very rarely meet other American guys that are interesting or 'cool'. I have my inner circle of guys who all know about game and are always strategizing new ways to find and get snatch. Most other young guys are clowns: hipsters, SWPL's, bro's, Tapout/Afflication white trash, etc.

I'm glad that the forum is a community for us like-minded guys.

 

[brianmark]

These spots are like strip clubs, movies with hot chicks (as basil points out), and anything else that transparently and cynically manipulates beta-males' satisfaction with sexual placebos over the challenges, and pleasures, of real sex.

Yeah, that's why you can't trust the opinions or advice of lots of guys.

Success for You: a Bang. Blowjob at a bare minimum.

Success for Them: "she smiled at me." "She told her friend I'm cute." "She gave me her number." "We hugged." "She let me buy her a drink." "She said yes to dinner." Then they'll relay the shitty game that got them those results, as if it were the philosopher's stone of pussy hunting.

I'll listen to them talk and I'll say, "Yeah, but *did you bang her*?" Out come the excuses, the rationalizations, even accusing me of being crass. "Dude, why are you so obsessed with sex?"

I hear the same thing all the time from my "friends", "your obsessed with sex". They hate it when you bring them back to reality that they are actually not getting any!

 

[brianmark]

Yeah, that's why you can't trust the opinions or advice of lots of guys.

Success for You: a Bang. Blowjob at a bare minimum.

Success for Them: "she smiled at me." "She told her friend I'm cute." "She gave me her number." "We hugged." "She let me buy her a drink." "She said yes to dinner." Then they'll relay the shitty game that got them those results, as if it were the philosopher's stone of pussy hunting.

I'll listen to them talk and I'll say, "Yeah, but *did you bang her*?" Out come the excuses, the rationalizations, even accusing me of being crass. "Dude, why are you so obsessed with sex?"

Being a player is humbling like that. You know that it's the bang that counts. All the other stuff that would pump a guy's ego, you give it a jaded look, and say "whatever, we'll see."

I could never put my finger on this dynamic during my first year or two of college, but you've described it perfectly here.

I recall once having a conversation with a fraternity brother and a teammate that went almost exactly along these lines. He was a good guy, gal-pal to many girls and most certainly an uber-beta, but very well known and liked by many on campus (He DJ'ed quite a bit at local frat parties).

We're leaving the frat when he goes into his advice giving mode, something he liked to do.
"See, Athlone, it isn't that hard to succeed with girls." He says. "Its as simple as this. Here's how I do it".
He began to motion with his hands as we walked, as though he were approaching someone.

"I go up to her. I say hi. I grab her hand, and then..." his voice kind of lowered and softened here, almost the way it does when someone is speaking about some past, deep, intimate, and profound memory. "...we dance."
By this time we're still walking, and he's making a little motion with his body with his eyes closed and head down as though he were actually dancing slowly with some girl. After 3-5 seconds I guessed he was done, so I interrupted his reverie fairly bluntly.

"Yeah, dude, but do you fuck them?" (actually exactly what I said, no paraphrase/copy here)

"What do you mean "do I fuck them?"

"You dance with them, but do you ever fuck them?"
It was an honest question at the time, since I'd recently learned from peers that this guy had a rep for having tons of female friends (again, a very well-known guy/campus DJ, and not a gay one either), but almost never getting laid. I was curious. It was (and still is) downright normal for guys on campus, even apparently high-status ones, to end up in such a situation for most of their time there, though most knew fewer girls than this dude. They got friendzoned by a half-dozen or perhaps a dozen girls with whom they were acquainted, not the 50-60+ this guy knew.

"No, Athlone, that isn't the point!"
"How is it not the point?"
At this point, he simply gives me his patented "you've-got-a-lot-to-learn" look, complete with an abundance of head-shaking to signal disappointment. He then moved on, muttering "Athlone, Athlone, Athlone..." before trailing off towards his dorm while I continued to mine in another direction. I'd have this kind of conversation several times that year.

I was far from alpha at this stage in my life (late freshman year) due to naivete, inexperience, "nice guy"isms and desperation. At the same time, I can see now that in spite of all of that I was one of the only guys around who held myself to the type of standard Basil outlined above (BJ/sex is success, smile/hug are not). Of all the 100+ D1 Football players I could call "teammate" at the time, only a handful really appeared to do the same. Most were, in hindsight, of a similar mind to this guy.
I was still prone to oneitis with some girls at this time and this standard went away when that hit (it'd have me doing dinner dates and being ok with them for a while), but generally when I went out on a normal weekend I had no intention of being ok with a hug or platonic dance the way my peers all were. Success required far more than that.

It was odd, because my peers would regularly ridicule me in groups (to the point of it becoming a running frat joke) for holding this type of mentality and "caring too much", using pretty much exactly the same language outlined above ("dude, why are you so obessed with sex?")? Back then, this left me questioning myself. Over time, I began to see that, while I was no Casanova back then and had a lot of bad habits, there wasn't much more to be said about them either.

In fact, there isn't much to be said about 85% of dudes out there when it comes to game, even the ones who look the part of the high-status guy.

I really enjoyed your story. I was in a frat with 85 guys. I had the worse reputation of any of the guys. In other words, I was the guy that would most likely actually want sex from a girl that went out with me. Most of the guys were just happy to get a date or being seen with a girl. The idea that frats are sexual orgies is a fucking joke! Frats are clicks for beta guys!

 

[Wool Suit]

From my observation, guys who go to Hooters are either office betas or sports fan rubes, who are thrilled to have an attractive girl even speak to them.

This.

Last time I went to a Hooters, circa 2005, I had to leave early because I was getting physically revolted by the behavior of the men there. They were so damn excited to have a college student in a skimpy outfit talk to them they would squirm like excited piglets at the slop tray. It was herb/beta Mecca.

The final straw was when one of the girls offered to take a photo with me. I declined, and all these fucking Fight Clubesque middle-managers and AFCs about shit their pants. "DUDE, she was so hot"; "DUDE, she wanted your digits"; etc., etc.

Revolting to see how far men have sunk as a gender. Creeped me out.

 

[brianmark]

This thread is golden.

I think when the term 'AFC' was first coined it was to refer to pretty much anyone who doesn't get laid frequently, gets oneitus and so on - from your 90%-of-all-males beta to the omega with no life aside from wanking to anime. I think as our knowledge of Game has grown, members of this forum in particular have this... savviness about the workings of other men, probably because we're all actually fairly popular with other guys - unlike the traditional 'PUA' who ends up having to style himself as a loner.

This also means that, as demonstrated above, our own experience of witnessing other guys has also led for us to pick up on the patterns as highlighted by Athlone, Basil and Tuth in this thread.

We acknowledge that your typical beta isn't just the guy you see at the bar, holding his drink up to his chest and nervously avoiding eye contact with anyone; he's also the guy who thinks that a Hooters girl asking for his order (or whatever the fuck they do) is classed as 'flirting'. On the flip side, he's also the guy who won't even go for the kiss because he rationalises it as he doesn't want to look 'sex-obsessed'. These are the same guys who would have been classed as AFCs a decade ago, but now it's more like they're... Male Hamsters - backwards rationalising everything to fool themselves that they have Game. Self-deception at its finest.

99% of the guys are AFC or betas. I know a tons of them. They hate alphas. They expect you/alphas to go to parties or social events and not hit on girls there, because they've spent years building rapport with these girls. Honestly they are jealous of you and will talk about you behind your back! These guys are not innocent bystanders thay are facilitators to women being asexual!

 

[Alpha Hunter Zero]

I dont understand how all this isnt common knowledge to guys, common sense even. Everyone knows that waiters, or waitresses in this case, pretty much work for tips because they dont make much salary wise. For the majority of patrons the nicer the server is to them, the higher their tips, usually. Now add to that skimpy and scantily clad chicks who give loads of attention and pretend to actually like you in a restaurant that is catered towards drooling betas, you can be pretty sure a high tip is in order. This is basic psychology 101 and most guys cant even catch on to that. I can relate w/all the examples previously posted because I have a family member who practically thins out his wallet every time he goes to hooters, despite my advice to him. I dont know, maybe being red-pill had a greater effect on me than I thought.

 

[Walderschmidt]

That video has been removed.

Is this the video (or similar)?

 

[JohnKreese]

Tilted Kilt actually has pretty damn good food as far as chains go. I go there with my parents when I'm in town.

 

[DeusLuxMeaEst]

By being part of this forum we get a much different view of the sexual marketplace than 95%+ of guys out there.

After being in the game for a while we get used to the results(damn I haven't been laid in a few weeks, what a dry spell), but I've said it before the average guy out there is so bad, it would boggle our minds here on RVF. And that's the appeal of hooters/strip clubs, it sells the fantasy that a cute girl is into them.

The bottom line is this, good game, will never become mainstream. Why? It's too fucking hard. Most guys are crushed for months after a rejection(same for me when I was a teenager), it takes a certain strength of mind and at times an obsession to succeed.

It's not easy to fall on your ass and continually learn from your mistakes, it's a blow to the ego. That's why the majority of the male population is stuck in fantasy land.

 

[Teddykgb]

This is how you game women at hooters





Hes got 5 or 6 of these videos from different girls.

 

[brianmark]

This is how you game women at hooters





Hes got 5 or 6 of these videos from different girls.

I'm not impressed that he stole that kiss. What I am impressed with is how fast he downed that beer! If he was smart he'd let the girl drink that beer and then he wouldn't have to steal the kisses!