Hostages held at knifepoint in French church

[Simeon_Strangelight]

The young Jihadi was a the son of a school teacher - he liked Rihanna and the Simpsons and grew up solidly middle class.

http://www.krone.at/welt/sohn-einer-professorin-wurde-zum-kirchenmoerder-adel-kermiche-story-521824

But of course we know that - the recent Pakistani terrorists were even from wealthy families and they went on a rampage killing Christians.

It is not poverty that causes it - it is Islam, because Islam in it's core is radical. You can push it back with force, but it will raise it's ugly head if you allow it to.

And David Wood once said it right - even secular or casual Muslims hear from everyone - media, academia, politicians that Islam is a great religion and Mohammed a wonderful man - like Jesus. So if you hear it from Western sources and your Imams, then why doubt the teachings at all? Then all it takes is being pissed off about one drone attack, start checking out Imams online, reading som Quran and Hadiths and voila - you have your Jihadi. They should have let him go to Syria - simply rescind the ciitizenship for everyone flying to join ISIS.

I blame Islam for poisoning the mind of this young mind. He let an ideology destroy his life and the lives of others.

And of course one should blame the authorities and the female judge - if you make attempts to join ISIS, then you should not be stopped to do so. The morons send them to therapy while in truth they should be welcomed by a SWAT team at the airport - and then off to Guantanamo to never appear again anywhere.

 

[Foolsgo1d]

@ Leonard D Neubache

Careful what you wish for. Germany turned itself into a war machine within a decade with nothing like the type of military training or mass production & technological advancement we have today.

Once a train gets enough momentum it needs an equal if not greater force to stop it. 7 billion on the planet currently. No certain way to claim you or anyone you know will survive such a total war scenario.

 

[Nineteen84]

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[rw95]

Attacking a church is another box ticked on the path to the chaos we see in every other part of the World that Muslims have a foothold.

Churches are very symbolic and totally defenceless.

Non Europeans probably do not realise how many churches there are in Europe; almost every Parish has one (there are around 40,000 in the UK alone). One can just stroll into most of them at any time of the day and have a chat with the vicar/priest/whoever.

There were 3 churches within 400 yards of the house I grew up in UK. 1 burned down because of an electrical fault and was never rebuilt, one still stands, and the other is now a Mosque.

A lot of churches are being converted into Mosques in UK. Christianity is dying out in UK.

It’s often said that Britain’s church congregations are shrinking, but that doesn’t come close to expressing the scale of the disaster now facing Christianity in this country. Every ten years the census spells out the situation in detail: between 2001 and 2011 the number of Christians born in Britain fell by 5.3 million — about 10,000 a week. If that rate of decline continues, the mission of St Augustine to the English, together with that of the Irish saints to the Scots, will come to an end in 2067.

That is the year in which the Christians who have inherited the faith of their British ancestors will become statistically invisible. Parish churches everywhere will have been adapted for secular use, demolished or abandoned.

Hate to say it, but it's not the Muslims fault that Christians aren't having enough kids (or kids at all).

To be fair, how many real Christians are left in the west?

 

[Samseau]

Attacking a church is another box ticked on the path to the chaos we see in every other part of the World that Muslims have a foothold.

Churches are very symbolic and totally defenceless.

Non Europeans probably do not realise how many churches there are in Europe; almost every Parish has one (there are around 40,000 in the UK alone). One can just stroll into most of them at any time of the day and have a chat with the vicar/priest/whoever.

There were 3 churches within 400 yards of the house I grew up in UK. 1 burned down because of an electrical fault and was never rebuilt, one still stands, and the other is now a Mosque.

A lot of churches are being converted into Mosques in UK. Christianity is dying out in UK.

It’s often said that Britain’s church congregations are shrinking, but that doesn’t come close to expressing the scale of the disaster now facing Christianity in this country. Every ten years the census spells out the situation in detail: between 2001 and 2011 the number of Christians born in Britain fell by 5.3 million — about 10,000 a week. If that rate of decline continues, the mission of St Augustine to the English, together with that of the Irish saints to the Scots, will come to an end in 2067.

That is the year in which the Christians who have inherited the faith of their British ancestors will become statistically invisible. Parish churches everywhere will have been adapted for secular use, demolished or abandoned.

Hate to say it, but it's not the Muslims fault that Christians aren't having enough kids (or kids at all).

To be fair, how many real Christians are left in the west?

Wrong. Christians have the highest birthrates of White people.

The death of Christianity is purely from apostasy. If Islam was denigrated in schools, universities, and media, the same way Christian has been, we'd see similar rates of apostasy.

But that's not what our elites want, they want to see more Islam and less Christianity. Christians who remain Christians still have kids but many Christians still foolishly let their children get brainwashed and turned away from God by sending them to terrible schools or other social environments.

 

[rw95]

^Well there you go. The Christians have lots of kids. But of those kids, how many of them stay Christian?
I still don't exactly see what the elites stand to gain by flooding Europe with Islamic terror. I don't see how it ends well for them.

 

[amity]

^Well there you go. The Christians have lots of kids. But of those kids, how many of them stay Christian?
I still don't exactly see what the elites stand to gain by flooding Europe with Islamic terror. I don't see how it ends well for them.

There's a few theories about why this chaos has been created , ie. socially engineered by certain people(and it has been created, have no doubt about that)
Stefan Molyneux has spoken about this in recent months, but I need to track down the exact episodes where he zones in on the reasons why this is happening (as opposed to the chaos it's causing), will get back to you on that soon.
But another interesting and not implausible scenario is that certain very powerful people, at least some of whom are of Zionist persuasion/background, are trying to implement Kalergi's masterplan to effectively genocide white Europeans in their homelands. Merkel, Hollande, Cameron, Sarkozy have all played their part in this. And in particular you have Peter Sutherland and George Soros, surely two of the most evil twisted men on the planet, pushing and promoting for Europe to take on millions of "refugees"(ie. some genuine refugees yes but the vast majority of whom are third world, welfare seeking migrants), while well aware of the chaos and destruction this is causing.
Here's an extensive interview about this, it's long but well worth listening to.

 

[rw95]

^Well there you go. The Christians have lots of kids. But of those kids, how many of them stay Christian?
I still don't exactly see what the elites stand to gain by flooding Europe with Islamic terror. I don't see how it ends well for them.

There's a few theories about why this chaos has been created , ie. socially engineered by certain people(and it has been created, have no doubt about that)
Stefan Molyneux has spoken about this in recent months, but I need to track down the exact episodes where he zones in on the reasons why this is happening (as opposed to the chaos it's causing), will get back to you on that soon.
But another interesting and not implausible scenario is that certain very powerful people, at least some of whom are of Zionist persuasion/background, are trying to implement Kalergi's masterplan to effectively genocide white Europeans in their homelands. Merkel, Hollande, Cameron, Sarkozy have all played their part in this. And in particular you have Peter Sutherland and George Soros, surely two of the most evil twisted men on the planet, pushing and promoting for Europe to take on millions of "refugees"(ie. some genuine refugees yes but the vast majority of whom are third world, welfare seeking migrants), while well aware of the chaos and destruction this is causing.
Here's an extensive interview about this, it's long but well worth listening to.

You'll forgive me if I don't listen to the interview, but I am familiar with the Kalergi plan.

I'm a bit skeptical of the claims that this whole thing is a Jewish conspiracy to destroy Europeans, but for the sake of argument let's say this is true. What does the average Jew get out if the deal? Jews living in Europe would find themselves surrounded by millions of Arabs who hate them and are ready, willing and able to kill them. Sure, they have a homeland to escape to, but Israel is pretty much in the same position, surrounded by Arab countries who are more than willing to blow them off the face of the Earth. And what does the Zionist elite get out of it? Rule over a group of people who hate their kind more than just about any other people in the world, and who would have no qualms about killing them?

 

[Horus]

I think I have thought out an effective plan to stop Islamic terrorism against Western targets.

Firstly, there is the obvious step of banning all Muslim immigration to Western countries, without exception. This however won't solve much as there has already been far too much infiltration.

So it's time to abandon all of our Western-style humanity and hit back in the kind of brutal fashion that our ancestors understood. Here is my plan.

For ever person who is killed by an Islamic terrorist attack in a Western country or against Western interests, one Sunni mosque will be chosen at random to be destroyed in the country from which the attacker comes from. For example, if a Tunisian mows down 85 people in Nice, 85 random Sunni mosques in Tunisia will be turned to dust.

The retaliatory attacks will be surgical strikes and every attempt will be made to limit damage to the mosque itself. The attacks will also occur simultaneously during Friday prayers. Of course, we are not complete savages, so there will be plenty of advanced warning by way of leaflet drops so that the faithful can decide for themselves whether they want to take the risk.

In cases of domestic Islamic terrorism, such as when an American Muslim citizen attacks American citizens, of course we shouldn't bomb mosques in our own territory. In cases such as this, for every person killed, one mosque will be cleared, shut down and demolished.

The backlash will be severe. There will be riots and even more terrorist attacks, and this is where we need to have the stomach for blood and display icy cold resolve. We simply continue on our stated goal to destroy one mosque for every victim of Islamic terrorism, even if it means the destruction of thousands of mosques and tens of thousands of deaths. In the end, there is no way they could ever withstand such an exchange.

It's nice to dream sometimes.

 

[Geomann180]

@ Leonard D Neubache

Careful what you wish for. Germany turned itself into a war machine within a decade with nothing like the type of military training or mass production & technological advancement we have today.

Once a train gets enough momentum it needs an equal if not greater force to stop it. 7 billion on the planet currently. No certain way to claim you or anyone you know will survive such a total war scenario.

What are you...Godwin's grandson?

G

 

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Technological advancement and mass production are useless when your population consists almost exclusively of cucked Starbucks-sipping hipsters trying to compete who is the biggest victim.

 

[Leonard D Neubache]

@ Leonard D Neubache

Careful what you wish for. Germany turned itself into a war machine within a decade with nothing like the type of military training or mass production & technological advancement we have today.

Once a train gets enough momentum it needs an equal if not greater force to stop it. 7 billion on the planet currently. No certain way to claim you or anyone you know will survive such a total war scenario.

What precisely am I wishing for?

I get particularly nauseated when people confuse accepting reality with wishing for bad outcomes.

Reality check. The spread of islam is stopped or you, your children, theirs, etc will be slaves to the barbarians. If you think that's a fair trade for avoiding the possibility that zombie Hitler will take another shot at the thousand year Reich then by all means, find an accountant that knows how to calculate your Jizya rate before the rush sets in.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Alright - the pope has spoken some powerful words - his patience has run out:

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.... Of course it was nothing of the sort - he actually cucked some more and would have likely sucked off a rapefugee on stage during the World Youth Day in Krakow if he could have done so. Maybe he will wash their feet again - that will help:

One guy should have mocked him by reading the newspaper.


That Freemason gay Pope can go home to his lodge.

 

[Orion]

Never ceases to amaze me to what extent we still talk within their frame

Remember, we are debating whether it is justifiable to carpet bomb Raqqah, capital city of literally Hitler, because of objections to innocent lives of civilians being lost.

However, when they carpet bombed Hamburg, and created a massive 300 meter high firestorm that produced winds which would easily suck in people from the streets like dry leaves into the furnace not only were there no objections, but there was not even a debate, a discussion about it. Nor was anyone given a forward notice such as Raqqah inhabitants certainly would.

Remember, Hamburg was in hearth of Europe, and devastation and horrors of bombing were described as worse than Nagasaki and Hiroshima, because in the latter case it happened in an instant blitz, while Hamburg bombing was a slow and tormenting oven.

The supposed concern and white tower moralist sermons on their part come only when their interests are at stake. When it comes to pursuing their interests, no action, no matter how sickening and inhumane, warrants any denouncement. Never forget folks, they are brutally systematic in pursuing their interests, and will accept any pose necessary. Stop being fooled.

 

[amity]

^Well there you go. The Christians have lots of kids. But of those kids, how many of them stay Christian?
I still don't exactly see what the elites stand to gain by flooding Europe with Islamic terror. I don't see how it ends well for them.

There's a few theories about why this chaos has been created , ie. socially engineered by certain people(and it has been created, have no doubt about that)
Stefan Molyneux has spoken about this in recent months, but I need to track down the exact episodes where he zones in on the reasons why this is happening (as opposed to the chaos it's causing), will get back to you on that soon.
But another interesting and not implausible scenario is that certain very powerful people, at least some of whom are of Zionist persuasion/background, are trying to implement Kalergi's masterplan to effectively genocide white Europeans in their homelands. Merkel, Hollande, Cameron, Sarkozy have all played their part in this. And in particular you have Peter Sutherland and George Soros, surely two of the most evil twisted men on the planet, pushing and promoting for Europe to take on millions of "refugees"(ie. some genuine refugees yes but the vast majority of whom are third world, welfare seeking migrants), while well aware of the chaos and destruction this is causing.
Here's an extensive interview about this, it's long but well worth listening to.

You'll forgive me if I don't listen to the interview, but I am familiar with the Kalergi plan.

I'm a bit skeptical of the claims that this whole thing is a Jewish conspiracy to destroy Europeans, but for the sake of argument let's say this is true. What does the average Jew get out if the deal? Jews living in Europe would find themselves surrounded by millions of Arabs who hate them and are ready, willing and able to kill them. Sure, they have a homeland to escape to, but Israel is pretty much in the same position, surrounded by Arab countries who are more than willing to blow them off the face of the Earth. And what does the Zionist elite get out of it? Rule over a group of people who hate their kind more than just about any other people in the world, and who would have no qualms about killing them?

Yes I know on the face of it, it makes no sense.
The average Jew gets nothing out of it, same as white Europeans.
The elites care about neither and are willing to sacrifice the average Jews as well to ensure they have no competitors to their control (the white Europeans or from other anglo countries being the most likely to be a threat to them).
I'm not sure if I fully buy this idea either, some aspects of this plot seem to add up, but other aspects seem a bit fanciful.
I found one of the Molyneux videos where he address some of the possible reasons for the deliberately created migrant crisis.
The entire thing is really worth watching, from about twenty minutes he begins to address the possible reasons, or at least his thoughts on the possible reasons behind this

 

[rw95]

^Well there you go. The Christians have lots of kids. But of those kids, how many of them stay Christian?
I still don't exactly see what the elites stand to gain by flooding Europe with Islamic terror. I don't see how it ends well for them.

There's a few theories about why this chaos has been created , ie. socially engineered by certain people(and it has been created, have no doubt about that)
Stefan Molyneux has spoken about this in recent months, but I need to track down the exact episodes where he zones in on the reasons why this is happening (as opposed to the chaos it's causing), will get back to you on that soon.
But another interesting and not implausible scenario is that certain very powerful people, at least some of whom are of Zionist persuasion/background, are trying to implement Kalergi's masterplan to effectively genocide white Europeans in their homelands. Merkel, Hollande, Cameron, Sarkozy have all played their part in this. And in particular you have Peter Sutherland and George Soros, surely two of the most evil twisted men on the planet, pushing and promoting for Europe to take on millions of "refugees"(ie. some genuine refugees yes but the vast majority of whom are third world, welfare seeking migrants), while well aware of the chaos and destruction this is causing.
Here's an extensive interview about this, it's long but well worth listening to.

You'll forgive me if I don't listen to the interview, but I am familiar with the Kalergi plan.

I'm a bit skeptical of the claims that this whole thing is a Jewish conspiracy to destroy Europeans, but for the sake of argument let's say this is true. What does the average Jew get out if the deal? Jews living in Europe would find themselves surrounded by millions of Arabs who hate them and are ready, willing and able to kill them. Sure, they have a homeland to escape to, but Israel is pretty much in the same position, surrounded by Arab countries who are more than willing to blow them off the face of the Earth. And what does the Zionist elite get out of it? Rule over a group of people who hate their kind more than just about any other people in the world, and who would have no qualms about killing them?

Yes I know on the face of it, it makes no sense.
The average Jew gets nothing out of it, same as white Europeans.
The elites care about neither and are willing to sacrifice the average Jews as well to ensure they have no competitors to their control (the white Europeans or from other anglo countries being the most likely to be a threat to them).
I'm not sure if I fully buy this idea either, some aspects of this plot seem to add up, but other aspects seem a bit fanciful.
I found one of the Molyneux videos where he address some of the possible reasons for the deliberately created migrant crisis.
The entire thing is really worth watching, from about twenty minutes he begins to address the possible reasons, or at least his thoughts on the possible reasons behind this

From a more economic than racial standpoint it makes more sense. The western world is bar none the most successful in terms of wealth, comfort and material goods, and the elites have no desire to give these things up or share them with the lower classes. Bring in a bunch of migrants who are incompatible with western culture, they create a stir, the people at the top declare martial law, the elites remain on top forever.

 

[Traktor]

https://www.rt.com/news/354056-muslims-refuse-bury-church-attacker/

Send the stinking cadavers to Erdogan and Tel Aviv.

 

[redpillage]

@ Leonard D Neubache

Careful what you wish for. Germany turned itself into a war machine within a decade with nothing like the type of military training or mass production & technological advancement we have today.

Once a train gets enough momentum it needs an equal if not greater force to stop it. 7 billion on the planet currently. No certain way to claim you or anyone you know will survive such a total war scenario.

Those were different Germans. That gene pool has all but been eviscerated in Germany. If you are looking for warriors and conquerers look further East.

 

[RexImperator]

One of the throat-cutters worked at an airport as a baggage handler:

Now it has emerged that Petitjean worked full time at Chambery airport, which is used by more than 250,000 passengers a year including many from Britain, until just three months ago.

It comes as ISIS released a new video of the teenager calling on fellow extremists to 'destroy' France and launch attacks on its allies.

President Francois Hollande and Prime Minister Manuel Valls directly, he says: 'You will suffer what our brothers and sisters are suffering. We are going to destroy your country.'

'Brothers go out with a knife, whatever is needed, attack them, kill them en masse.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rder-got-police-checks-easily-secure-job.html

 

[Foolsgo1d]

@ Leonard D Neubache

Careful what you wish for. Germany turned itself into a war machine within a decade with nothing like the type of military training or mass production & technological advancement we have today.

Once a train gets enough momentum it needs an equal if not greater force to stop it. 7 billion on the planet currently. No certain way to claim you or anyone you know will survive such a total war scenario.

What precisely am I wishing for?

I get particularly nauseated when people confuse accepting reality with wishing for bad outcomes.

Reality check. The spread of islam is stopped or you, your children, theirs, etc will be slaves to the barbarians. If you think that's a fair trade for avoiding the possibility that zombie Hitler will take another shot at the thousand year Reich then by all means, find an accountant that knows how to calculate your Jizya rate before the rush sets in.

When this forum was first started nobody predicted its current form. Nobody in the US or EU predicted the mass migration except for a few and even they were not 100% correct.

Now you're going to tell me that in the future its either mass genocide or servitude? Do you also have the Euromillions jackpot numbers two months from now?



Reality check: Nobody here knows what will happen 5 years from now, let alone 20. They could take over, they might not. I don't care either way.

But calling for one race to fight another on a global face-off no human being has seen before is like those baby boomer doomsday preppers in the mid-west, Alaska and Texas. I'm sure it'll come..one day.