How Christianity can level up

[infowarrior1]

Agreed. To me a huge flaw of American Prot denominations is they largely ignore centuries worth of history. After learning about the 40 martyrs of sebaste, the Byzantine Empire, Gregory the Illuminator...I'm even more driven to learn about the strong Christians of the past. Also, lots of the aspects of mainstream denoms (prosperity gospel, acceptance of perverse lifestyle, poorly written worship songs) seem to push away men.

To me, a lot of those worship songs seem like Celine Dion love songs.

I wish more churches would dive into Christian history, deep theology, and stop with watered down teachings.

Too many of them are too easily subverted. Its their own damn fault for not holding on to what they were taught Gospelwise.

 

[infowarrior1]

In terms of evangelization, we have to discard the notion that we have to "trick" people in liking our faith, and give the Holy Ghost more credit. Lay out all the cards at what the basics of the Christian religion and see how people react. Most importantly, we musn't hide things that we think people don't want to hear. You may not believe it, but I've gotten mostly positive reactions in Kiwifarms, of all places, for discussing moral theology.


*Ramit Sethi banned me from his sites when I called him out for supporting Black Lives Matter.

If we "trick" people into liking the faith. We only end up with false converts anyway. No. We want people who aren't guided by smooth persuasion or by coercion. But by those who voluntarily seek out the Truth.

Those who seek the Truth will find the God who is the Truth, the Way and the Life. That's how I came to faith. And many others too who will likely remain zealous for life.

I had enough of fake "Christians" and I bet everyone of you are sick of that too.

 

[Anomaly]

Regarding memes, I actually unfollowed a Catholic group for men on Facebook because of utterly childish nature of compulsive meme posting. After awhile it’s not funny and I highly doubt many serious young men will be drawn to Christianity because of such infantile behavior. I appreciate humor and sometimes am compelled to act goofy in my spare time with friends and family; some people find me very funny though I don’t try to be. However the meaning becomes obnoxious and gets old fast.

Another point I want to touch upon is Roosh’s articles regarding young men seeing the light. I think they are generally excellent and he certainly hits the nail on the head regarding life in our current hellscape and how we got here. I myself am in RCIA, have friends, a wife, two kids, and a career. My plate is full; so I can absorb the self-deprecation, sadness, remorse, and sorrow written about. However I do think the lack of variety in such writings is not compelling for young men who want to live Christian, satisfying, rational lives. Sure they can be reminded about what went wrong and what we are doing wrong, but it would certainly help to inform young men on what they must do with their abilities and talents to get from point A to B.

Why not write an article on the Parable of the Talents? What could be more beneficial than that for exhorting young men to use their God-given gifts?

Why not write articles on:
Careers
Investing (in a Christian way)
Volunteering
Exercise and nutrition
Armed and unarmed self defense
Home maintenance and gardening
Child raising
Marriage (including the concept of arranged marriage)

Though not a baptized Catholic yet, I believe the last thing we need are more self-loathing mopey men around.

 

[Jingo-Jango]

The traditional right/monarchism was getting its ass kicked by socialist/communists in the hearts and minds war so it leveled up to facism in the 1930's Europe to win over blue collar workers. When is Christianity going to level up in the current age when there are all kinds of social media, apps, memes and LGBTism, fanboyism and atheism going rampant on our culture?

Suggestions

1. Christians need to engage in meme warfare.



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Some Christians may find it off-putting or even belittling Christianity and Jesus. Well I believe at this point in the game we should be desperate and desperate people need to resort to unconventional tactics. When we have churches with GAY FLAGS flying then I believe we have nothing to lose with Jesus Pepe or whatever else that comes out of this.

2. Christianity needs to be more aggressive

Christianity somehow got fused with this liberal, wimpy, tolerant, pacifist attitude which is why so many churches have turned into Churchanity churches.

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Christianity does not need to get boxed in or apologetic over its stance on homosexuality or any other liberal freakshow movement it needs to come out swinging. Christianity is not in the majority nor does it have a lot of power anymore. Like for most of its history Christianity is a minority, persecuted religion. In America but especially in other countries like India. We need to stop taking Christianity for granted and be ultra aggressive in defending it and make this clear to dumbass white liberal Christians who want to apologize and concede everything in the religion out of white liberal guilt.

3. Christianity needs to be more entertaining (especially for young christians)

I'm not saying church should be entertainment but there's a way to make the teachings of Jesus more interesting than the way it is being taught. I can only speak of my experience but in one church I can barely understand my pastor and in the other the sermons are more interesting but ultimately simple messages. There is a lot of drama in the New Testament I believe but because there is a lack of context (history of Judea) Christians, especially kids are being taught the New Testament as just magical bible stories that happened in random desert land instead of a real life place where the Roman Empire ruled. Jesus's story should be taught very dramatically because it was dramatic not just from a Christian standpoint but a secular human history standpoint.

4. Christianity needs to address topics more relevant to today's culture.

There should be more sermons on dating, porn, social media use, the current satanic culture (Netflix's Sabrina reboot), new atheism, etc. I feel churches are still operating in the 50's. Maybe with podcasts and Facebook pages but their content is still the same unless they've been taken over by LGBTists and pushing LGBTism disguised as Christianity.

5. Church tithe/offering system should be more interactive

Instead of having parishioners simply give money, they should be made to feel that they are investors in the church. And I'm not a biblical expert so I don't know if you're not suppose to view it that way but the fact is giving offering just feels like a chore. Very stale and transactional. Why not have parishioners more involved and offer charts and graphs online and data so you feel more involved and maybe even give more because you know the money is being used in a very effective way. The church should be marketed like a tech startup (something that is very sexy to the younger generation) and parishioners as investors and we give money and the payoff we get is not more money but in souls saved.

The Eternal Living God does not need any fallible man to meme up/level up and debase his purpose based on dynamics of mortals. If you truly grasp the notion that God is not bound by time then you wouldn't attempt such a childish and flesh-filled approach.

Instead pray to God. Ask for Wisdom and understanding. Importantly, let his Spirit guide you. And no this is not some weird stuff. The God who created the universe and raised/deposed conquerors and kingdoms is bigger than you think. My goodness the God who led Moses, the God of Elijah and Elisha now needs us to engage in memes?

Please just read about Elisha and you'll be properly calibrated.

 

[randay047]

Well I have to commend Protestants for their zeal and studiousness. I'm going to disagree with you on the lack of a need for a Church to help interpret scripture. As a former Protestant I'll recommend Orthodoxy and leave it at that.

The problem here is the belief that the Eastern Orthodox Church doesn't have disagreements.

I think you may be disappointed if you were to look into it further.

 

[DanielH]

The problem here is the belief that the Eastern Orthodox Church doesn't have disagreements.

I think you may be disappointed if you were to look into it further.

Quite patronizing.

 

[randay047]

Quite patronizing.

Perhaps. Though I don't think it's wise to assume that there are only three options in Christianity, those being the RCC, the EOC, and Protestantism. All three of these "denominations" (for lack of a better term) find their theological leanings in a Greek/Hellenistic approach to Scriptures. The problem here is that the Scriptures, and Christianity in an ultimate sense, is a Hebraic/Jewish belief system and should be interpreted as such.

But I digress.

 

[ExPraliteMonk]

evangelicalism has been treating church like a business for decades

The Pharisees and the money changers are back in the temple.

 

[Jünger]