How Difficult Would It Be to Compete in the Olympics?

[Vicious]

You are completely wrong! Not only can you get to the Olympics in 4 years,you can win gold.

A British girl just won Olympic gold in the rowing and guess what,until four years ago she had never even been in a boat or held an oar. Her name is Helen Glover

and here is her story:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...her-Stanning-The-middle-class-supergirls.html

And how is this some kind of empirical evidence that 4 years of training from
scratch is all you need to place in the Olympics in the event of your choice? Do you see yourself as a 22 yo woman?

Nice try.

Go read your post again. You made no mention of the snatch,you said it's insulting
that people say you can get to the Olympics in four years. I showed you it can be done and that you're wrong. Simples. Instead of shifting the goal posts maybe just admit you're wrong.

Take your own advice and go back and read my post again. Seems you were too anxious to hit the reply button to read it right. No I made no mention of snatch, but from scratch, ie as in from no previous experience.

Did I say no one has ever done it or it can't be done? No. That you have to drag out an example of a girl having done it doesn't make a lick of difference. The female events are far, far less competitive than the male ones.

People getting to the Olympics in 4 years isn't insluting, it's the people TALKING about it that are. Dude, instead of just keep keyjockeying this Disney ending, I will swear my assertion was exaggerated if you qualify to the Olympic games in Rio de Janerio 2016 in an event picked at this moment. So get to it, it's real simple right?

You made a statement and I showed you were wrong. Simple. And now you're flapping about to regain some pride! Why do you care so much? Is your ego so wrapped up in being right?

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You are repeating yourself. I responded to this already:

Did I say no one has ever done it or it can't be done? No.

You keep wanting this to be something about right and wrong, which is odd since I haven't made a factual statement but expressed an opinion of disgust. We saw in your earlier post that reading comprehension is not your strong suit though.

Funny that such a small thing has got you all worked up and now you're challenging me to qualify for the Olympics.

I'm daring you to put your money were your mouth is. It's the most common and understandable challenge there is.

That I find keyboard jockeys insulting is because in my life I have at a time endeavoured to actually compete at international levels and I've put in the work for it. I'm not surprised that you don't understand why this gets to me, you have most likely never made any such effort in your life - and thus you don't know how to relate.

 

[Tornado]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rowing/19112057

Well this guy trained for the olympics for 3 months and got in. We did not do too well but he got in. So anything is possible

 

[Hannibal]

-wrong thread, sorry

 

[Hades]

I think you guys greatly overestimate the technical difficulty of the snatch. I personally find no technical difficulty snatching whatsoever. Learned it in the gym by watching my friends, practicing it, then checking form on youtube.
You can take any physical maneuver, break it down into components, learn each individually, and put it together. The same general principle applies to parkour. My shoulders and thoracic spine are very flexible so I'm sure that my snatching is OK.

I also think you guys give too much mystical credit to Olympians in general. The only difference between them and you is training and possibly genetics. With training, there's no reason why you wouldn't be able to at least make the tryouts. I did also say it could take 4 to 10 years. Of training. I also provided links and examples of people who did manage to do this in 4 years or less. If you don't make it in 10 years, odds are you never will. I'll stay beta, but don't let your egos get in the way of what could instead be an interesting history lesson.

If the guy who currently trains all the olympic athletes (Sommers) says that there was a brilliant gymnast who didn't start until he was 19, and won US National Champion after some years, then it goes to show that you can make up for lost time. That lost time won't be made up for if you don't train. Thus it is not impossible to distinguish yourself in a sport comparatively later in life. Which applies to many Rooshers.

I didn't say the Olympics would be easy, odds are it will be the most difficult thing you will ever do. You're competing against distinguished naturals who train. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Giovonny]

This thread is stupid and I think the op is a troll. Those athletes have been training full time for their whole lives. Many of them were born and raised to compete in their sport. In many countries they start training at 2,3, or 4 years old.

You can't just decide one day that you are gonna play against them and think you have a chance. They have been doing it for decades! 3-4 years of practice is nothing compared to 15-20 years of work. Especially, if they started as children. When you train since childhood, that shit become part of you. That is your life. You can't just do that in a few years. You are going against the best in the world, not some dude at the local ymca.

 

[reaper23]

I think you guys greatly overestimate the technical difficulty of the snatch. I personally find no technical difficulty snatching whatsoever. Learned it in the gym by watching my friends, practicing it, then checking form on youtube.

how long have you snatched?

have you ever received any coaching in it?

I can also do what appears to be running - but i'll tell you, i don't do it very well. running you say? thats not a technical skill! sure it isn't.

or jumping. like, say, the triple jump. not technical?

i realize that this is from wikipedia, but:

"The lift requires not only great strength, but mastery of technical skills, a high degree of shoulder flexibility, excellent balance, and speed. However, power and strength do play an important role in differentiating athletes in competition, particularly at advanced levels, where the majority of competitors have mastered the technical aspects of the lift."


once you actually do something for a while you can begin to learn its intricacies. to claim its not technical is pretty silly. its literally, the single most technical lifting thing you can do.

so technical, they made an olympic sport out of it

 

[rlongo924]

this is stupid. There's absolutely no way you can become an olympian at any sport in four years if you're just starting out in that sport.

If you already have a predisposition for a certain sport and played at a high level, then maybe you could have some sort of a chance if you totally dedicated your life 100% to that sport.

But otherwise, there's no shot.

 

[Bad Hussar]

Look, as others have said above it has happened for a few people in less than 4 years so it is possible. But the odds are tiny, and unless you actually are good at the sport I doubt it would do much for your rep.

The OP probably has in mind someone like Nasser Al Attiyah from Qatar. He's a Qatari rally driver who won the Paris-Dakar Rally who trained to be some kind of shooter (apparently did not train for very long, but who can say) and won a bronze medal a few days ago.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/31/oly-shoo-shmske-qatar-idUSL6E8IVOJ320120731

But even after a casual glance at his situation you just KNOW that he is super-loaded and super-connected (in Qatar and elsewhere). Which helps with being able to train with the best, and also in getting your National Olympic Committee to select you on the strength of.....well, nothing at all.

Really not trying to be negative. As said above all posters here would encourage anyone who wants to compete at the Olympics. At the end of the day, even if you fail to gain a spot it really doesn't matter if you've gone all out.

 

[OldRich]

The OP asked if it was possible, of course it is possible. One of my buddy was training for Wrestling about 2 years go and he never Wrestle in his life decided to train for London and the guy is pushing 40. Unfortunately, there were some legal problems so he never got the chance to go all the way. Who am I to tell him it's impossible? Anything is possible!

The question is why the hell would you want to for some ass?

 

[Divorco]

In Washington, D.C., she would be considered an "8" and would be rejecting Michael Phelps.

 

[Giovonny]

One of my buddy was training for Wrestling about 2 years go and he never Wrestle in his life decided to train for London and the guy is pushing 40. Unfortunately, there were some legal problems so he never got the chance to go all the way.

He is pushing 40 and he has only been wrestling for 2 years. The chances he would make the olympic team are.....oh forget it!!

:discussionclosed:

 

[WestCoast]

You must be a genetic freak and train at excruciatingly high levels. I have a couple friends who made the olympic trials and have met a few who made the games (not friends of mine) They are freaks.

Look at usain bolt, he does not have the sprinter profile but murdered the competition. His reaction out of the block wasn't good but he gets halfway down the track and it's lights out.

Lebron James is a freak of nature. Kevin durant as well who can't seem to put on lbs but doesn't need to due to significantly different wing span.

Lance Armstrong's resting heart rate was in the THIRTIES. Even after training for 2+ hours caridovascular, it's tough to get much below the high 40's.

The appollo and phelps fall into the same categories of freaks.

Stack all this up and combine with giving up 90% of your life and you can make it to the games. But anyone touting this "start from scratch and make it" without the right genetics, you've got no shot. The games are for freaks who trained, hard.

Hardwork only beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. Those athletes have both.

You would have more sex training yourself for "the game" since that would mean gaming 6hours plus a day every day for a decade+

 

[MikeCF]

I think you guys greatly overestimate the technical difficulty of the snatch. I personally find no technical difficulty snatching whatsoever. Learned it in the gym by watching my friends, practicing it, then checking form on youtube.

How much can you snatch? What's your bodyweight? I'll wager you're not even top 1,000 in your weight class.

What you're missing is that you're not elite.

You're like the guy who "day trades" stocks. You look at P/E or some other metric without realizing that trading is something you had better spend thousand of hours learning.

You might even make a few good trades. Then you tell everyone your stock picks and share your "system."

Six months later, we never hear you talk about the market, as you got your ass handed to you.

(I've seen that happen to a lot of my guy friends.)

Your mentality is ultimately a manifestation of the hater's mentality.

A hater sees someone successful and instead of seeing hard work, sees something easily attainable.

But maybe I'm wrong and you're snatching elite numbers.

Are you?

 

[Hades]

I'm definitely not snatching elite numbers. Right now lower intermediate.
This last spring I clocked in at 217 pounds bodyweight (I'm still kind of skinny fat) and could do a 200 pound snatch. Clean and press probably around 250# but I never really trained over 220#. These were generally 2 sets of 3 reps.
I was comfortably deadlifting 2 sets and 5-8 reps anywhere from 300 to 400 pounds depending on the day. Never seriously pushed the heavy weights, since I don't want to snap my shit up.

I don't own a barbell but by this winter I hope to be hitting better, possibly upper intermediate numbers. I plan to lift weights and make gains for many years. I don't care if I never get good at it. Don't get me wrong, I see successful people and am sure they did hard work. There's no bullshit about it.

On the technical side though I learned to do the oly lifts in about two days and didn't find it mechanically complex. Now master the oly lifts at an elite level, and snatch like double bodyweight, no, but I can still do them and they look OK to me.

 

[Aliblahba]

Mikecf, you ever served?

 

[Ramon Zarate]

You must be a genetic freak and train at excruciatingly high levels. I have a couple friends who made the olympic trials and have met a few who made the games (not friends of mine) They are freaks.

Look at usain bolt, he does not have the sprinter profile but murdered the competition. His reaction out of the block wasn't good but he gets halfway down the track and it's lights out.

Lebron James is a freak of nature. Kevin durant as well who can't seem to put on lbs but doesn't need to due to significantly different wing span.

Lance Armstrong's resting heart rate was in the THIRTIES. Even after training for 2+ hours caridovascular, it's tough to get much below the high 40's.

The appollo and phelps fall into the same categories of freaks.

Stack all this up and combine with giving up 90% of your life and you can make it to the games. But anyone touting this "start from scratch and make it" without the right genetics, you've got no shot. The games are for freaks who trained, hard.

Hardwork only beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. Those athletes have both.

You would have more sex training yourself for "the game" since that would mean gaming 6hours plus a day every day for a decade+

I wonder if there are any 'freaks' of game - I mean guys that exist that bat incredible averages without having other advantages like fame, looks, money, height etc.

We could even have a game Olympics! "Same Day Lays - class: brunettes" or "As many day game non-flaky phone numbers as you can - in 1/2/4/8 hours"

 

[Hannibal]

I'm pretty sure Hades said that it wasn't "easily attainable". He said that with consistent effort, you could do it inside of 4 years. That might be optimistic, but I don't see how that mentality is any different from any other skill you could possibly learn. He didn't say that he did it, but he did cite examples of people who didn't eat, breathe, and sleep the Olympics or have ridiculous freak genetics and still managed to get in there. The guy who wrote the thread said he wanted to just "get in the Olympics", he didn't say anything about destroying the competition, getting gold medals, or being the very best athlete in the entire place.

If you're just going into the Olympics to get laid, why not spend the time you would have been training for the Olympics to learn game instead? If you want to be famous, the fastest way to do that is to become a criminal who does something so horrible he gets sensationalized in the news for at least a week.

 

[snoop]

I just read this article about all of the debauchery that goes on at the Olympic village and it got me thinking about how to get a piece of that action in 2016.

http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/...s-dirty-secrets-olympic-village-espn-magazine

Just how hard would it be to compete in the Olympics? 4 years is enough time to become a citizen of a less competative country and train for that event. If you move to a country that doesn't have a lot of competition for a sport you're good at then you might have a chance at competing.
Which country would you play for and which sport would you play?

You not only have to beat out your new countrymen, you also still have to qualify as one of the best in the world against the rest of the world.

Every country doesn't just automatically get to put people in whatever ever they want.

 

[snoop]

For the people saying it can be done, go do it already and shut the fuck up about it until its done.

 

[MikeCF]

For the people saying it can be done, go do it already and shut the fuck up about it until its done.

You just won a gold medal for ending threads.