How does taking acid change you?

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through psychedelics, i affirmed my obsessive compulsive nature.
these 6-8 hour experiences will drain you of a lot of emotional energy and reveal your suppressed baggage.

it will certainly open your eyes to shit.
i feel that it has made me stupid.
i am horrible at retaining information.

i'm twenty-three and have experimented extensively.

i don't like to do them anymore for they brought me over the edge last time.
 

TonySandos

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cardguy said:
I am not hating on people who take drugs. I think it is pretty cool (and quite brave) that people are prepared to experiment like that on themselves.

I ate a bunch of weed one time - and didn't enjoy the 12 hour trip that resulted from it. So - I don't think it is a scene for me.

Weed is most beneficial in its ability to have short altered mental states and continuously dose if you want to maintain the high.

It was my preferred drug for many years because I felt that it brought me to an objective mind state. Due to that, I could be honest with myself; forcing realization about my successes, failures and limitations of the time.

I realize that most people treat taking weed as if it's like another form of alcohol, but smoking alone or with the right people gave me a far deeper experience.
 

Yeti

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TonySandos said:
I realize that most people treat taking weed as if it's like another form of alcohol, but smoking alone or with the right people gave me a far deeper experience.

Exactly. Alcohol is a drug. Each drug is its own unique experience. Alcohol doesn't allow you to have soulful, mind-expanding experience like marijuana or acid. But alcohol can be great for feeling more social. Different drugs, different experiences.
 

TonySandos

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Yep that's all it comes down to in the end. Picking a good crowd is still always important in an altered mindset
 

JoyStick

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w00t said:
JoyStick said:
Everybody should try acid at least once.

Why?

Drugs are a waste of time IMO.

to know what crazy shit your brain is capable of.

I'm actually going to the beach tomorrow and dropping acid. I'm going to relax and watch the multi color sunset and all the cool shapes the clouds form. I can't wait.
 

J DOE

Woodpecker
Jaydublin said:
I've heard some pretty good stories on DMT and it doesn't last long at all. Anybody have any experience with it?

The craziest experience I have ever had in terms of drugs. You know how when acid/shrooms/weed are represented in the media they show someone floating in a world of colors/shapes/patterns? Well that is what DMT is actually like. You crossover and are no longer in this reality. What surprised me the most when I was on it was that it was a strangely familiar feeling and I was in a strangely familiar place. It's like a dream in that you don't remember too much of it, but I would recommend it to anyone of sound mental health. It's really trippy/enlightening.

About LSD, I've done it about 12 times and had 2 bad trips from it. I would recommend it as well, but I can't stress set/setting enough. Be with friends you trust/like and be in a good state of mind when you do it. I found that it really stripped me of my conditioning and I was able to pay attention to aspects of myself that I didn't notice prior to taking it. Things like nervous ticks/behavior patterns became glaringly obvious. It makes sense to me how LSD can be used to treat OCD.

Also, about Steve Jobs, I remember him saying something like this: "Life can be much broader once you discover one simple fact: Everything around you that you call life was made up by people that were no smarter than you and you can change it, you can influence it, you can build your own things that other people can use.

Once you learn that, you'll never be the same again.
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I came to a very similar conclusion when I was on LSD the first time I took it. Some systems/inventions are so complex that they seem sort of out of reach to the normal person, but on LSD I had a very strong sense of how human the world around me was, if that makes sense.

Read some Aldous Huxley if you're interested in this subject.
 

Steve9

Woodpecker
Here are the 5 levels of psychedelic experience listed on wikipedia. Level 5 sounds amazing!! -- "Intelligent beings attempting to communicate with users via visual linguistics & mathematics. People report beings/entities manipulating what the user can see and view, propelling the user in different directions at disorienting speeds, forcing the user to view both macro and microscopic scale objects including: planetary systems, galaxies, quasars, natural environments, space habitats, technological utopias, neurons, DNA, mitochondria, trilobites, cephalopods, bryozoa and artificial self-replicating machines."

I've only used weed/hash myself.

Level 1
This level produces a mild 'stoning' effect, with some visual enhancement (i.e. brighter colours). Some short term memory anomalies. Left/right brain communication changes causing music to sound 'wider'. Can be achieved with common doses of cannabis and MDMA, light doses of MDA, and light doses of psilocybin mushrooms.

Level 2
Bright colours and visuals (i.e. things start to move and breathe). Some 2-dimensional patterns become apparent upon shutting eyes. Confused or reminiscent thoughts. Change in short term memory leads to continual distractive thought patterns. Vast increase in abstract thought becomes apparent as the natural brain filter is bypassed. Can be achieved with strong doses of cannabis, light doses of LSD, light to common doses of psilocybin mushrooms, light to common doses of peyote, strong to heavy doses of MDMA, and common doses of MDA and 2C-B.

Level 3
Very obvious visuals, everything looks curved and warped, patterns and kaleidoscopes seen on walls and faces. Some mild hallucinations such as rivers flowing in wood grain or 'mother of pearl' surfaces. Closed-eye hallucinations become 3-dimensional. There is some confusing of the senses (synesthesia). Time distortions and 'moments of eternity'. Movement at times becomes extremely difficult (too much effort required). Can be achieved with common doses of LSD, psilocybin mushrooms, peyote, and ayahuasca.

Level 4
Strong hallucinations, i.e. objects morphing into other objects. Destruction or multiple splittings of the ego. Things start talking to you or you find that you are feeling contradictory things simultaneously. Some loss of reality. Time becomes meaningless. Out-of-body experiences and ESP type phenomena. Blending of the senses. Can be achieved with strong doses of LSD, strong doses of psilocybin mushrooms, strong to heavy doses of peyote, and common to strong doses of ayahuasca.

Level 5
Of the classical psychedelics, only DMT and very high doses of psilocybin are considered to be able to induce level 5 effects, however ketamine and Salvia divinorum, whose effects can be considered atypically psychedelic, can induce experiences of comparable intensity to those level 5 experiences triggered by traditional psychedelics. Experiences include total loss of visual connection with reality, the sense of not being human or having a body, and the feeling of being in many places at the same time. The loss of reality is so extreme that it becomes ineffable. People have been reported seeing themselves in entirely different settings than their original setting, and many people experience the feeling of being in a simulated reality. Religious phenomenon is reported at this level; often mentioned is a connection to an "all-knowing presence" or a "universal knowledge", which many equate with extra-terrestrials, artificial intelligence, God, love, or "enlightenment". Users commonly report:

1) Being clearly thrust into outer-space at extreme speed.
2) Being thrust into an expansive void-like alternate dimension consisting of bright colorful fast moving kaleidoscopic environments, dynamic pulsating colored beams, as well as complex three-dimensional geometric, mathematical, and linguistic patterns made of light.
3) Continually traveling at great speeds, while watching patterns fly by morph, open, and reveal more complex patterns within.
4) Encountering different types of living beings and superintelligent body-less entities at the same time as 1, 2, and 3. These reports include contact with free-floating entities made of light resembling giant spheres, humanoids, multiple types of unrecognizable insects, human-sized praying mantises, elves, cephalopods, complex robotic machines, and plants.
5) Intelligent beings attempting to communicate with users via visual linguistics, mathematics, morphing colored diamonds of different textures (flesh, gold, liquid metal, colored light). People report beings/entities manipulating what the user can see and view, propelling the user in different directions at disorienting speeds, forcing the user to view both macro and microscopic scale objects including: planetary systems, galaxies, quasars, natural environments, space habitats, technological utopias, neurons, DNA, mitochondria, trilobites, cephalopods, bryozoa and artificial self-replicating machines.

Most users report similar auditory patterns, of a combined high frequency whine, and a slow deep throbbing tone similar to a heart beat. Most DMT users report feeling psychologically uninhibited, clear headed while experiencing peak effects, and able to maintain the ability to think and reason in the above circumstances.
 

testos111

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I've never done acid. Never smoked up regularly either. But many friends who do have told me it just makes them relaxed in their approach towards life.

Things like materialistic desires and unnecessary ambition go away. They fall more in touch with who they are. But I've also seen some of them become too complacent. There is a difference between laziness and a relaxed approach, and I've seen both types. So I guess it does impact you but what you do with that learning is entirely up to the individual.
 

monster

Pelican
Funny article about Hunter S Thompson dosing his illustrator with LSD
http://nypost.com/2014/04/19/lsd-trip-with-hunter-s-thompson-sparked-artists-famous-career/

When illustrator Ralph Steadman hit the high seas in September 1970 to cover the America’s Cup with a new collaborator, journalist Hunter S. Thompson, he saw the writer taking numerous pills. So he asked if Thompson had anything to combat seasickness.

If it hadn’t been just their second time meeting, Steadman might have known better.

The pill Thompson gave him was LSD — marking the only occasion that the strait-laced Steadman has ever done the drug.
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Ralph Steadman and Hunter Thompson at the “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas” 25th Anniversary Party New York City on Nov. 11, 1996.Photo: WireImage

“I started to feel not only weird, but wanting to do something,” Steadman, 77, tells The Post.

Thompson had brought two cans of spray paint, and the tripping Steadman had the idea to paint something on the side of nearby boats. He decided on the phrase “F–k the Pope,” and the pair had just begun shaking their spray cans when they heard a voice asking them what they were doing.

“God, pigs. We’ve failed!” yelled Thompson. “We must flee!”
 

Blondie

 
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I have a lot of experience with Lsd. In my own experience and that of others I give this sincere warning. There are much safer and more user friendly alternatives. Lsd, being a chemical mixture rather than a plant or mycellium that grows naturally, can act a bit harshly on our bodies and minds in sometimes quite unfriendly ways.
I've had good trips and bad. The best was a night on the beach with a roaring fire, friends, music and about 30 hits of liquid platinum Lsd in my system. My friend had a bad trip that night and was spun out for a couple years.
I witnessed a good friend of mine strip naked at a campfire on the river and hurl himself like a moth into the flames. He literally jumped into the fire. I saw another guy go on a Jesus trip and tried to baptise everyone in sight. That got real fucked up and ultimately led to his divorce.
I've only known one girl who had a bad trip on acid and she was hospitalized for a couple days. She seems recovered now and even though she's an 8, she's hit the wall and can't keep a man around.
I've known very intelligent guys who were turned into incoherent lunatics in need of constant supervision and medication.

Stick with the natural stuff guys. Protect yourselves and your minds. A man without his ability to rationalize or think is nothing. Lsd is too dangerous to be fucking around with something as fragile as your brain.
 
I did a ton of acid in high school. I suppose it made me even more open-minded but I don't think it was this life altering experience.

Ecstasy was more life changing. The level of acceptance I felt for all people is something I can still remember quite well and something that keeps my misanthropy in check when when I see all the stupid shit people do.

I recommend weed to anyone who needs to do creative work, but don't smoke too often. For me, weed gives me a ton of creative energy but only if I smoke once per month or less. Otherwise I just get very talkative.


BTW, smart people do more drugs than dumb people. This is a pretty consistent finding and has been replicated across drug types.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog.../201010/why-intelligent-people-use-more-drugs
 
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