How does taking acid change you?

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iknowexactly

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I heard from a friend who went water-skiing while on acid...

that the bay was like the fluids of a body
and the trees like nerve endings reaching up through the skin of the sky
and everything was connected together
and he could see it, just like you can see in everyday life how
a tree grows out of the ground
you could see many different things connected you couldn't before
at levels of organization-- as in planetary units-- that one usually doesn't notice.

That being said, as Timothy Leary said, once you get the message, hang up the telephone.
 

iknowexactly

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big poppa said:
I'm gonna trip for the first time in a couple weeks.

Will post results.
best surroundings: trusted friends, peaceful, private, natural beauty, low probability of unexpected disruptive visitors, no authority figures, guns or violent people, have mild tranquilizers like valium legally available., don't risk being in mv accidents, nice to have trusted females for sex if you want
 
I've never taken acid or magic mushrooms but I've heard they are similar. Just magic mushrooms are usually less strong and less intense (so probably a better for a beginner). The majority of people I know that take shrooms (and some take acid) are actually Buddhists or people that are into meditating, yoga, finding inner calm and peace. Those sorts of people. A lot of them are very open minded, liberal and charismatic. This may sound bad but they I find them inspirational. It's not the drugs they do that I find inspirational but possibly the outcome or their calm way of life. They never seem stressed, angry or wanting a fight (which you would usually find on a saturday night with your local drunks in the clubs).
 
cardguy said:
I don't do drugs.

But I'm curious if taking acid changes your outlook on life?

Steve Jobs did acid just once - and he said it changed his life.

So - with that in mind - in what way does taking acid change your outlook on life? Or is it more that you develop an inner calm which makes you less stressed out about day to day life and question the motives of society?

I became aware of consciousness after my first experience and to answer your question simply, yes.

If you have the capacity to open your mind soberly, then your experience can be amplified by hallucinogenics. I've had good and bad 'trips' as one would say, but what i've learned from them I can not express. I've always been one to meditate and think deeply. To ask the questions normal societal members dare not ask. Under the influence, I began to explore those questions. I came upon answers that my rationale mind can not comprehend. Today, I watch as cognitive dissonance assimilates my sober thoughts.

If any one thing has changed about me from taking acid it's that I'm not the center of this universe and that We are all in this together.
I was given awareness seldom found in other philosophical pursuits because it was based on MY experience and MY understanding of this world.
I see that we all seek the same destination yet we all walk a different path.

Do note that any experience you read about is not one you're going to have. Only you can dream your dreams, think your thoughts, and live your life.
So with that being said, I guess the real question is... How does taking acid change YOU!

The rabbit hole goes deeper than you can possibly fathom.
 

SheWantsTheD

 
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I've always wondered what shrooms would be like. Acid scares me as I've heard that it has a higher chance of being a bad trip, where shrooms just make you laugh for the most part. Read a story once where a dude took acid and thought the world was ending around him. He said everything started melting down, turning into nothingness. Just black. He said even when he closed his eyes he couldn't escape it. He said it was the scariest experience of his life. That would absolutely suck, and that shit lasts like 12 hours, doesn't it?


Maybe someone can clarify here, but with Shrooms the chance of a bad trip like that is much smaller, right? And it only lasts like 4 hours, right?

Also, can someone explain what a 'spiritual experience' with shrooms is exactly? I've heard it a million times, but have no clue what that means? Do you see God? Do you see people and the universe how it truly is, like with all of the artificial, superficial garbage removed?

I've never done Molly, but I don't know how any drug could be better than pure MDMA (not the street E that circulates now that's laced with 100 other things and has little to no Molly in it what so ever). I mean, isn't MDMA formulated to release every 'good feeling' chemical and hormone in your body? Everyone I know who's taken it just loves everyone and everything and its not like heroin where you have to worry about choking on your own puke, or doing so much coke that your heart explodes. It just makes you feel happy and the worst that can happen is you hit the dance floor for 5 hours and get dehydrated.

Can someone clarify the above?
 

Veloce

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SheWantsTheD said:
I've always wondered what shrooms would be like. Acid scares me as I've heard that it has a higher chance of being a bad trip, where shrooms just make you laugh for the most part. Read a story once where a dude took acid and thought the world was ending around him. He said everything started melting down, turning into nothingness. Just black. He said even when he closed his eyes he couldn't escape it. He said it was the scariest experience of his life. That would absolutely suck, and that shit lasts like 12 hours, doesn't it?


Maybe someone can clarify here, but with Shrooms the chance of a bad trip like that is much smaller, right? And it only lasts like 4 hours, right?

Also, can someone explain what a 'spiritual experience' with shrooms is exactly? I've heard it a million times, but have no clue what that means? Do you see God? Do you see people and the universe how it truly is, like with all of the artificial, superficial garbage removed?

I've never done Molly, but I don't know how any drug could be better than pure MDMA (not the street E that circulates now that's laced with 100 other things and has little to no Molly in it what so ever). I mean, isn't MDMA formulated to release every 'good feeling' chemical and hormone in your body? Everyone I know who's taken it just loves everyone and everything and its not like heroin where you have to worry about choking on your own puke, or doing so much coke that your heart explodes. It just makes you feel happy and the worst that can happen is you hit the dance floor for 5 hours and get dehydrated.

Can someone clarify the above?

Acid- 8 hours

Mushrooms- 3-4 hours

Moonrock Molly- 1-2 hours

Acid and mushrooms are very similar. The differences are noticeable once you take each of them a few times. I used to think acid was stronger but I've had very potent mushrooms that were nearly as strong. Acid is easier to control the dosage.

Some people report having religious experiences due to several reasons. Some people become aware of a greater or higher power. In my experience, this sensation is MUCH more apparent with DMT. I would say the spiritual element of acid is an overwhelmingly powerful feeling of empathy.

In our daily lives, our default brain paradigm sees us as separate from the world and different from other people. Our culture and society reinforces this impulse leading to a nagging sense of alienation in many people. On acid and shrooms, this feeling is reversed, leading to a feeling of unity. I don't mean this in some glad-hand bullshit, "we are the world" type way. I mean this in a very tangible, very real experience of looking at someone else and being aware that you share the same consciousness, only different body. You look at people of other races and classes and instead of instinctively seeing yourself as different, you see their skin as some sort of suit or costume.

Closing your eyes on psychedelics is very difficult. The back of your eyelids will explode in a kaleidescope of colors and patterns, and it can be very disorienting. You're better off being someplace very pleasant, like at a park and watching kids play or dogs chasing a ball.

Moonrock molly also produces very strong feelings of empathy, almost ridiculously so. While I feel in control on mushrooms and acid, on molly I feel like a retarded little kid. If you're in the middle of peaking, forget about fucking. Although physical sensations are magnified x 100 you can literally lay in bed and you'll be squirming around from feeling so fucking good. You won't care about sex too much, but you should still try. Once the molly peak wears off, you can get hard again but you'll still have enough of the drug trip to have sex and let me tell you it's pretty goddamn amazing.

Sex on acid is a bit tougher to pull off since most girls trip the fuck out, but I managed to do it once with my 18 year old gf at the time and it was pretty incredible.

People have bad trips for a number of reasons. I've never had one but I've been with people who have. I can say that it's not some arbitrary process like russian roulette. It's not due to the acid itself. It's entirely up to the individual. I've had some very dark thoughts while high on acid, thoughts about murder, genocide, war, torture. If you're not in control of your consciousness you can dwell on this shit and fall into a very dark hole. That's why it's important to do it during the day, be outside in nature somewhere, do it with friends, and do something fun. You can let your mind wander to those dark thoughts but you need things around you that will snap you back into your surroundings and enjoy yourself. Other people get confused by the process and they get really uptight, they're afraid of looking or acting stupid and they spend much of their trip completely uptight and confused by the process. You can spot them a mile away. Acid is a time to act completely silly, go to a park and ride the swings, throw a frisbee, talk to random people. The ultimate piece of advice to give anyone on acid is "go with it." During the 4th or 5th hour some people get mentally exhausted (I do) and you start thinking, "OKAY already, I'm ready to land this plane." Just remember that you bought the ticket and the trip will end when it ends, but it WILL end. Some people start tripping out, thinking "What if I'm perma-fry?!?! WHAT IF I DON'T COME DOWN!?" I've been with people like this and it's pretty funny, I usually fuck with them a little and tell them they're gonna have to go into work on Monday and tell their boss that they're permanently high on acid and can't work anymore.
 

SheWantsTheD

 
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Lol that's messed up telling people that, but I bet it's funny as hell.



What about what the guy above posted. What if you take a half of an acid dose, can it be good without the scary parts?
 

Veloce

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SheWantsTheD said:
Lol that's messed up telling people that, but I bet it's funny as hell.



What about what the guy above posted. What if you take a half of an acid dose, can it be good without the scary parts?

I guess...me personally I say go the whole way. It implies that acid is this scary experience and the stronger it is the scarier it is. If you're going in with that mindset then you're more likely to have a bad trip anyway.

Take a full dose with an open mind and open heart and enjoy the ride.
 
Shrooms > Acid, imo.

Shrooms = stronger visuals, more introspective, mindfucks one after another with occasional eureka-moments, emotional, ego-threatening/destroying.
Acid = euphoric, mechanical feel, easy and clear thinking & pondering, seeing everything from a different angle.
 

xpatplayer

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SheWantsTheD said:
Lol that's messed up telling people that, but I bet it's funny as hell.



What about what the guy above posted. What if you take a half of an acid dose, can it be good without the scary parts?

Make sure you're in a good mood prior to taking the tab. I know a guy who tried to kill himself on acid because he was already depressed. Take at least 2. And enjoy your trip.
 

JoyStick

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Is anybody familiar with Timothy Leary?! I stumbled across some of his interviews on youtube. Very smart, interesting philosopher.
 
cardguy said:
I don't do drugs.

But I'm curious if taking acid changes your outlook on life?

Steve Jobs did acid just once - and he said it changed his life.

So - with that in mind - in what way does taking acid change your outlook on life? Or is it more that you develop an inner calm which makes you less stressed out about day to day life and question the motives of society?

It will be different for everyone. I also took LSD only once, that was enough for me. What it showed me is that we are all divine beings, because we come from a divine source. That our whole point of existence is enjoyment. The question is, on what level are we experiencing enjoyment?

Don't take things like LSD or ayahuasca or shrooms or peyote unless you are ready for a very intense experience that will in most likelihood totally reset your outlook on life. It might also give you a more spiritual outlook on life or rather push you towards a lifestyle where you can elevate your consciousness gradually and naturally. Maybe that is why a lot of hippies burn out on the whole psychedelic drug culture and eventually turn towards yoga, meditation, and eastern religions.
 

captain_shane

 
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strengthstudent said:
Shrooms > Acid, imo.

Shrooms = stronger visuals, more introspective, mindfucks one after another with occasional eureka-moments, emotional, ego-threatening/destroying.
Acid = euphoric, mechanical feel, easy and clear thinking & pondering, seeing everything from a different angle.

I agree with pretty much everything you said except for the bolded part. I've had far stronger visuals on Lucy than I've ever had on mushrooms.

Strongest visuals for me by far were on DMT. I had one of those Level 5 experiences that was posted earlier in the thread. It was by far the most mind blowing experience I've ever had in my life.

I'm also a big fan of using mushrooms inside and watching movies.

Some of my favorite movies to watch on psych's:
- Kill Bill 1&2
- The Lego Movie
- Edward Scissorhands
- The Matrix
- Inception
- Point Break
- The Truman Show
- Fantasia (original)
- A Scanner Darkly
- The Hobbit
- Intersteller

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captain_shane said:
Strongest visuals for me by far were on DMT. I had one of those Level 5 experiences that was posted earlier in the thread. It was by far the most mind blowing experience I've ever had in my life.

Yeah, DMT is on a whole different tier to most psychedelics.. at least with the other two the sense of conceptual reality is maintained which acts as an anchor, the world around you is morphing and transforming but there's still an underlying structure present, the slow onset and long duration allows for a gradual easing into the experience.

DMT however in high enough doses is like re-entering the atmosphere of earth at maximum velocity.. the onset is lightning fast (30 seconds) and everything is stripped away in rapid succession.. rarely can you tell weather your eyes are open or closed. It systematically breaks down conceptual reality in a very intense paradoxical manner where everything converges into a single point of infinite singularity.

The problem I always had with LSD as mentioned above is it's very mechanical and analytical.. it's like reverse-engineering your thoughts; you can get into extremely specific detail but if you go deep enough you can actually reduce everything down to a very hard logic.. the weight of this can be crushing to the individual and can sometimes be the precursor to people having a mental break from reality.
 

Onto

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In college I did acid almost every weekend for 2 semesters. I saw a lot of shit, and it was really fun, but towards the end it got dark and I had the "bad" trip. I don't want to say what was bad about it because it's pretty dark.

Acid will open you up to seeing many things, including the dark side of ourselves and others. So if you're contemplating it just keep that in mind.
 

Fomalhaut

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If you're keen on psychedelic experiences that "change you", I'd take a look at ayahuasca opportunities in Peru. Essentially it's DMT except in liquid form mixed with some herbs. Lasts a fair amount longer, but the onset is a bit more gradual than DMT's rocket ship. Never had it but it's generally regarded highly for 'self-development purposes' and what not. Some people with social anxiety claim to be anxiety-free afterwards, it has some success with heroin and alcohol addiction treatment, etc.

I've taken a fair share of psychs back when I didn't live in countries that'd fuck me royally for having them. I never went for high doses, so I've never really had a life changing experience. Honestly, MDMA with a close friend and the ensuing four hour conversation has probably been more "life changing" than any psych I've had.
 

The Beast1

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Fomalhaut said:
If you're keen on psychedelic experiences that "change you", I'd take a look at ayahuasca opportunities in Peru. Essentially it's DMT except in liquid form mixed with some herbs. Lasts a fair amount longer, but the onset is a bit more gradual than DMT's rocket ship. Never had it but it's generally regarded highly for 'self-development purposes' and what not. Some people with social anxiety claim to be anxiety-free afterwards, it has some success with heroin and alcohol addiction treatment, etc.

I've taken a fair share of psychs back when I didn't live in countries that'd fuck me royally for having them. I never went for high doses, so I've never really had a life changing experience. Honestly, MDMA with a close friend and the ensuing four hour conversation has probably been more "life changing" than any psych I've had.

Basically Ayahuasca is DMT with an MAOI. A similar effect can be achieved with green tea (weak MAOI effects) and DMT.

I got a bit of the "spice" and i'm a bit nervous to go balls deep. The level 5 trip stuff sounds too intense. Even though i've done acid, shrooms, salvia, and 2ci.
 

Ruivinho

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I took 2 tabs of pure LSD on my first ever trip which lasted about 18 hours. I had took the tabs at 10am and my trip lasted till about 6am the next day. I think the reason it may have lasted so long was that we smoked 2 joints about 2 hours into our trip.
I had done a small dose of shrooms prior to this and smoked mary jane here and there.
I was looking for an eye opening experience like yourself probably.

What I will say is.. The day i took acid was not only one of the scariest days of my life but also one of the most euphoric.

If you do decide to try it. Make sure you know what you're taking. Be with someone who is open minded and you trust.

Most of all be aware that when you start to peak, you will feel like you are a million miles from sobriety. If you've never felt bad anxiety, there's a good chance you will.
I remember 4 hours into my trip when I really started peaking, I sat up all confused, looked at my friend and told him to explain to me wtf was going on?!
He simply looked at me and said "Its acid man, everybody on acid tries to explain acid, but acid cannot be explained. Just relax your mind, become friends with the drug and enjoy it"
We put some music in our headphones and went out for a walk into Hyde Park (London).
The leaves on the trees, bright green grass and beautiful blue sky with fluffy white clouds, while listening to some relaxing Stan Getz Jazz quickly put my mind at ease and I fell in love in the moment. Every step felt euphoric and the last time I'd felt so confident and happy was probably back when I was a kid

Most likely you will encounter intense visual distortion. Hallucinations. They will be very random but some relate to things that maybe you have some sort of unconscious connection with.

Also you will never appreciate music until you hear it on acid. Your mind becomes one with the music and you just such great pleasure from this divine sound.

Be aware your mind wont be in its normal state at all and its not like you can just switch back..
I remember walking back from Hyde Park and stopping at a Tesco on the way back. I had a basket full of food like chocolate, fruit. biscuits, milkshake.. I got to the checkouts and I just looked at the checkout and I literally could not figure out in my head how to use the checkouts and how to pay for the items. After probably 10 minutes of standing and staring at the checkouts trying to figure out how to pay for my items I just put the basket down and left the store. I laugh about it now, but scary stuff at the time!
 
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