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<blockquote data-quote="Augustus_Principe" data-source="post: 1347792" data-attributes="member: 16640"><p>As much as many reformed players here may hate the idea of this, it is true that we all took a part in the degeneracy of ruining these women. none of us a year or two ago would've said no to an easy-access woman, nor told a woman to wait till marriage to have sex. Instead, we reveled in this sin and now, we condemn the same women we "conquered". As i've said in the past, I'm not saying we should get with women who were complete sexual degenerates with a 50+ fornication count(heck, maybe some men wont have a problem with that...) However, we must realize that if we came to see the light and truth of the matter and repented for our sin, then we must give women the same benefit. If she is truly repentant, has cut off her slut friends completely, has turned her life around, and is pious and virtuous, I dont see much of a reason for concern. We all know how hard it is to come to this realization in the current culture we live in, so it is a good sign if a woman does wake up from it.</p><p></p><p>A lot of the concern on this thread is still coming from a secular way of looking at this. Yes, I too would not trust a secular, non-christian woman with a 10+ body count who suddenly wants to lock down a beta. We know her disorder still lingers in her and she will cheat on you sooner or later. However, I see the situation differently with pious woman. If we can turn our lives around, then of course women can as well. Of course we would then court the woman in question and actually see if she exhibits good qualities and not lying to us. We must use our intellect here</p><p></p><p>Also, who's to say that a Christian Woman who's a virgin in the 18-23 range (her absolute prime) wants a 30+ y.o man who's had a past life as a Casanova? That Virgin woman may have the same concerns we are all saying here. Her absolute best bet to a successful marriage would be to marry a young guy who's also a virgin and has been a lifelong christian, not a man who dived in deep into the sexual degeneracy, but saw the error of his ways 10-20 years later. May sound harsh, but that's the reality. Perhaps we need to lower our pride here.</p><p></p><p>Finally, I wouldn't go as far as apologizing to each and every woman you slept with, but at the very least, you should confess your sin of fornication and be absolutely repentant about it, never to do it again. Then, continue increasing your virtue.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately a woman fornicating with multiple men in the same room is all too common with young people these days. You can thank College for that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Augustus_Principe, post: 1347792, member: 16640"] As much as many reformed players here may hate the idea of this, it is true that we all took a part in the degeneracy of ruining these women. none of us a year or two ago would've said no to an easy-access woman, nor told a woman to wait till marriage to have sex. Instead, we reveled in this sin and now, we condemn the same women we "conquered". As i've said in the past, I'm not saying we should get with women who were complete sexual degenerates with a 50+ fornication count(heck, maybe some men wont have a problem with that...) However, we must realize that if we came to see the light and truth of the matter and repented for our sin, then we must give women the same benefit. If she is truly repentant, has cut off her slut friends completely, has turned her life around, and is pious and virtuous, I dont see much of a reason for concern. We all know how hard it is to come to this realization in the current culture we live in, so it is a good sign if a woman does wake up from it. A lot of the concern on this thread is still coming from a secular way of looking at this. Yes, I too would not trust a secular, non-christian woman with a 10+ body count who suddenly wants to lock down a beta. We know her disorder still lingers in her and she will cheat on you sooner or later. However, I see the situation differently with pious woman. If we can turn our lives around, then of course women can as well. Of course we would then court the woman in question and actually see if she exhibits good qualities and not lying to us. We must use our intellect here Also, who's to say that a Christian Woman who's a virgin in the 18-23 range (her absolute prime) wants a 30+ y.o man who's had a past life as a Casanova? That Virgin woman may have the same concerns we are all saying here. Her absolute best bet to a successful marriage would be to marry a young guy who's also a virgin and has been a lifelong christian, not a man who dived in deep into the sexual degeneracy, but saw the error of his ways 10-20 years later. May sound harsh, but that's the reality. Perhaps we need to lower our pride here. Finally, I wouldn't go as far as apologizing to each and every woman you slept with, but at the very least, you should confess your sin of fornication and be absolutely repentant about it, never to do it again. Then, continue increasing your virtue. Unfortunately a woman fornicating with multiple men in the same room is all too common with young people these days. You can thank College for that. [/QUOTE]
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