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<blockquote data-quote="Mike_Key" data-source="post: 1348505" data-attributes="member: 17142"><p>NoDesignation_Man,</p><p></p><p>I hear you loudly and clearly, but keep in mind what men are encountering or have already encountered. Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait</p><p></p><p>wait just one minute ...</p><p> </p><p>(rhetorical question zone)</p><p></p><p>Are you married, did you marry a <u>virgin</u> (God thinks a virgin was/is important), does she bake bread, does she iron your washed and dried under-shirts and bed-sheets, did she arrive to the marriage with intact parents, have they baby-sat while you two have gone on a 10 day Caribbean cruise, baby-sat while you two have gone for a 1.5 hour meal at a nice restaurant, while she is not working a Corporate job 40 hours a week - does she at a minimum attend a bible study mid-week with other women, …</p><p></p><p>The questions are end-less ...</p><p></p><p>Did she never create a Facebook account, in the first place.</p><p>Did she delete her Facebook account (because you commanded it or because it caused trouble)</p><p>Some guys probably have to deal with Instagram and Snapchat accounts of their girl/woman… Tinder accounts of women they are considering marrying … and worse, those Pay sites for Fans …</p><p></p><p>I’ll stop there because it only becomes more disgusting.</p><p></p><p>I am not re-judging any particular woman’s soul or salvation. I’m simply talking about skills or lack thereof. I’m referring to respect for her husband. I’m referring to good-behavior. We want good-behavior out of a wife (Like a dog? Yes, like a dog).</p><p></p><p>I can hear it already …</p><p><em>“Wives are not dogs”</em></p><p>(/close humor)</p><p></p><p>I’m talking about selflessness, diligence, …</p><p></p><p>Consider the supposed “Daddy issues” topic, I don’t even know what that means entirely, but I suppose it means she didn’t have a father for 10+ years of her life and goes out seeking male attention, the attention of multiple men. That is a real thing, that is a real thing that Men, now married Men, have to deal with in their wife. In a non-heathen (Christian) enclave in Roman times, they didn’t have to deal with such mental issues. In a Puritan community 300 years ago, they didn’t have to deal with such mental issues.</p><p></p><p>Earlier I said “re-judging” her soul. It’s interesting that I phrased it that way because that reminds me of Judge Judy. There was an episode where a “future wife” was dumped because prior to the wedding there was a red-flag. This happened because she attended or hosted a party. At said party, she was in a hot-tub with another guy and girl. This “future wife” hopeful kissed the guy – the non-groom. When the groom found out about it, he canceled the wedding and demanded his engagement ring. If I recall correctly the woman wanted to keep the ring. A little researched showed that she had attempted the same thing before - with other guys. Judge Judy told her that what she was perpetrating was/is fraud.</p><p></p><p>(Now, men, if you married and knew nothing … about your wife … things can be overcome … you can survive ... and marriages should survive if kids are already involved)</p><p></p><p>Second story, look back in the News to 2016 when a few women were (are yet) selling on-line Positive Result pregnancy tests. Why, would they sell those – a stick that a woman pee-ed on? The women selling these “Pre-determined” Positive pregnancy tests said, “<em>we don’t care what they are used for</em>”.</p><p></p><p>Fraud was likely the end-point. So it's not just Sexual history that concerns men, it happens to be deeper in some regards.</p><p></p><p>I shared that very story with a women. The first word out of her mouth – fraud.</p><p></p><p>The stories of disrespect, bizarre happenings/characteristics and likely fraud are endless. I recall seeing a TV show where if you, as a contestant, told the truth you’d win $1 Million. The woman in one particular episode confessed or lied (detected by the Lie detector methods/inquiries/device) that she invited someone to her wedding that she had had sex with in the past. She thought that it would be ok to invite a past lover to her wedding. Or she didn’t think (not too conscientious). That is gross. That is vomit-inducing.</p><p></p><p>I think that we all clearly understand that we are sinful, ourselves as men. And that we cannot judge or re-judge a woman’s soul. I’m sure that we don’t interject ourselves into the scripture of John 3:16.</p><p></p><p>We simply want to know – what did we get ourselves into when we married. And where is the respect. Where is the good behavior. Will we be treated well to very-well? Men marry women with bad credit scores and they don’t know it until 12 months into the marriage when finance issues arise. There is much unknown out there – hopefully men handle it well, after the fact.</p><p></p><p>But I do appreciate your earnest post, I like your angle, your approach. Thx.</p><p></p><p>John 3:16</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike_Key, post: 1348505, member: 17142"] NoDesignation_Man, I hear you loudly and clearly, but keep in mind what men are encountering or have already encountered. Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait wait just one minute ... (rhetorical question zone) Are you married, did you marry a [U]virgin[/U] (God thinks a virgin was/is important), does she bake bread, does she iron your washed and dried under-shirts and bed-sheets, did she arrive to the marriage with intact parents, have they baby-sat while you two have gone on a 10 day Caribbean cruise, baby-sat while you two have gone for a 1.5 hour meal at a nice restaurant, while she is not working a Corporate job 40 hours a week - does she at a minimum attend a bible study mid-week with other women, … The questions are end-less ... Did she never create a Facebook account, in the first place. Did she delete her Facebook account (because you commanded it or because it caused trouble) Some guys probably have to deal with Instagram and Snapchat accounts of their girl/woman… Tinder accounts of women they are considering marrying … and worse, those Pay sites for Fans … I’ll stop there because it only becomes more disgusting. I am not re-judging any particular woman’s soul or salvation. I’m simply talking about skills or lack thereof. I’m referring to respect for her husband. I’m referring to good-behavior. We want good-behavior out of a wife (Like a dog? Yes, like a dog). I can hear it already … [I]“Wives are not dogs”[/I] (/close humor) I’m talking about selflessness, diligence, … Consider the supposed “Daddy issues” topic, I don’t even know what that means entirely, but I suppose it means she didn’t have a father for 10+ years of her life and goes out seeking male attention, the attention of multiple men. That is a real thing, that is a real thing that Men, now married Men, have to deal with in their wife. In a non-heathen (Christian) enclave in Roman times, they didn’t have to deal with such mental issues. In a Puritan community 300 years ago, they didn’t have to deal with such mental issues. Earlier I said “re-judging” her soul. It’s interesting that I phrased it that way because that reminds me of Judge Judy. There was an episode where a “future wife” was dumped because prior to the wedding there was a red-flag. This happened because she attended or hosted a party. At said party, she was in a hot-tub with another guy and girl. This “future wife” hopeful kissed the guy – the non-groom. When the groom found out about it, he canceled the wedding and demanded his engagement ring. If I recall correctly the woman wanted to keep the ring. A little researched showed that she had attempted the same thing before - with other guys. Judge Judy told her that what she was perpetrating was/is fraud. (Now, men, if you married and knew nothing … about your wife … things can be overcome … you can survive ... and marriages should survive if kids are already involved) Second story, look back in the News to 2016 when a few women were (are yet) selling on-line Positive Result pregnancy tests. Why, would they sell those – a stick that a woman pee-ed on? The women selling these “Pre-determined” Positive pregnancy tests said, “[I]we don’t care what they are used for[/I]”. Fraud was likely the end-point. So it's not just Sexual history that concerns men, it happens to be deeper in some regards. I shared that very story with a women. The first word out of her mouth – fraud. The stories of disrespect, bizarre happenings/characteristics and likely fraud are endless. I recall seeing a TV show where if you, as a contestant, told the truth you’d win $1 Million. The woman in one particular episode confessed or lied (detected by the Lie detector methods/inquiries/device) that she invited someone to her wedding that she had had sex with in the past. She thought that it would be ok to invite a past lover to her wedding. Or she didn’t think (not too conscientious). That is gross. That is vomit-inducing. I think that we all clearly understand that we are sinful, ourselves as men. And that we cannot judge or re-judge a woman’s soul. I’m sure that we don’t interject ourselves into the scripture of John 3:16. We simply want to know – what did we get ourselves into when we married. And where is the respect. Where is the good behavior. Will we be treated well to very-well? Men marry women with bad credit scores and they don’t know it until 12 months into the marriage when finance issues arise. There is much unknown out there – hopefully men handle it well, after the fact. But I do appreciate your earnest post, I like your angle, your approach. Thx. John 3:16 [/QUOTE]
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