How My Autistic Game and Massive Thirst Got Me Kicked out of Krav Maga [re-titled]

aphelion

Ostrich
Gold Member
RE: How a girl got me kicked out of my Krav Maga lesson

Suits said:
Latan said:
Be honest, tell me what you think.
Did I cross the line?

Yes, you crossed the line with those jokes.

But your instructor is an idiot due to his comments about women being equal to men.

Men and women should have different spheres. Women and men should not try together.

Women and men should socialize together, but I'm encouraging men to increasingly do so on their own turf, so that they can decide who stays and who goes. Women find it easy to be offended when on their own turf. For example, one honoured forum member ended up getting attacked by 30 whiteknights because of some bitch.

In public and in private business areas (Krav Maga classroom) that earn money from females and whiteknight bitches, political correctness rules the day and these are very much women's turf.

Your own residence and El Mech's autobody shop are some of the few example of "male" turf.

Use this to your advantage, avoid martial art classes with fat women and game the hell out of women on the street or in clubs.

Who cares where the line is when you are dealing with women that you never have to see again -- and who never have to see you again either? But avoid any talk about domination and male-female roles at work or in environments where it is going to hurt you. Right or wrong, just save yourself the trouble.

Women and men are equal in his classroom. Everyone pays the same tuition.
 

RockHard

Kingfisher
Gold Member
RE: How a girl got me kicked out of my Krav Maga lesson

My best friend is a 3rd degree black belt in Judo. He's told me multiple times "the guys who come in here with attitude don't last". Translation: it's bad for your martial arts career to try to AMOG the instructors.

YOU are the one taking things too seriously. You're pissed off at these chicks and then trying to be "flirtatious" and you just come off as an aggressive asshole. Push-pull game with no pull = asshole. Just like someone said in the Planet Fitness thread, be thankful for these women are there, they're subsidizing your membership. The instructors are there to teach, not to issue a beatdown to everyone who walks in there that doesn't measure up. Having a little humility doesn't make you a beta.
 

RedPillUK

Pelican
RE: How a girl got me kicked out of my Krav Maga lesson

I agree with everyone else that most of what you did was socially retarded and therefore its your own fault you got kicked out.

I'm not trying to be harsh, you're probably actually well adjusted but just angry about taking the red pill. I can tell because you call every girl a princess in that story. That's fine, it won't completely go away. I know I've got into some pointless arguments with people since taking the red pill.

You just need to learn to control it better, channel that anger into some focused sparring, not arguing with fat bitches and relax a bit more, try and laugh more at the shit in the world rather than taking everything seriously and fighting it all the time.
 
RE: How a girl got me kicked out of my Krav Maga lesson

RedPillUK said:
I agree with everyone else that most of what you did was socially retarded and therefore its your own fault you got kicked out.

I'm not trying to be harsh, you're probably actually well adjusted but just angry about taking the red pill.
I have to agree with you : Red Pill knowledge is new to me and it sometimes (often) makes me feel angry.
I'll do my best to learn to control that, time'll help I guess.
 

Saweeep

 
Banned
RE: How a girl got me kicked out of my Krav Maga lesson

Latan said:
RedPillUK said:
I agree with everyone else that most of what you did was socially retarded and therefore its your own fault you got kicked out.

I'm not trying to be harsh, you're probably actually well adjusted but just angry about taking the red pill.
I have to agree with you : Red Pill knowledge is new to me and it sometimes (often) makes me feel angry.
I'll do my best to learn to control that, time'll help I guess.

Learning anything of value results in ups and downs as you learn to calibrate yourself and implement your new knowledge appropriately.

I know you've been given a hard time on this thread; it sucks, I know. Just make sure you learn from the mistake and improve next time.

Self improvement is a journey.
 

el mechanico

Owl
Gold Member
RE: How a girl got me kicked out of my Krav Maga lesson

If I were a mod here I'd re-title this "Thrown out of Krav class for having bad game"
 

Lucario

Woodpecker
RE: How a girl got me kicked out of my Krav Maga lesson

The advise given here is very solid, I'll chime in with my 2 cents since I have had similar experiences.

I used to do Krav myself . I know what you mean about sparring a lady. I hit some accidently, and I immediately stop assess the reaction and if they get mad, I make up something to diffuse the situation like "I got caught up in the practice drills, I will do better next time to maintain control of my punches/kicks" or "I lost concentration and went too hard with my punch, I won't make the same mistake again" to her or the instructor. I make sure I say this in a sincere way in a chilled out and concerned tone.

Remember, you want to stay and learn rather than get kicked out, better to diffuse and carry on learning.

^notice how I do not apologise. the second you apologise you come across as weak and the women will report and try to get you kicked out or go out of her way to pain you in bad light to the instructor even more because she perceived weakness.


Also the pretending to slap a girl on the butt is just plain cringy. Are you there to mess around or actually learn how to defend yourself?

I'm not trying to come down on you, and I'm sure you did not have bad intention, but Krav Maga originated from the Israeli army, do you think the creators of this amazing self defence system would want a guy learning this system to dick around in class because there are girls around?

Always take the learning of an art whether is be gym, building, business, nursing, martial arts seriously.

If other girls do not take it seriously, keep away from them. You do not need that negativity in your life to distract you from your path and purpose.
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
RE: How a girl got me kicked out of my Krav Maga lesson

CrashBangWallop said:
Foolsgo1d said:
CrashBangWallop said:
It's worse than monumentally bad game.

I hate to say this but I would clamp down on this kind of shit from one of my martial arts students if he behaved this way.

Mostly cause it could cost me a lot of £££.

If you clamped down on the core male members of any club your revenue will sink fast. Go to any gym during the warmer months and see all the women and other fairies pratting around trying to be in shape.

Come winter time or shit weather those people are gone. No income for you or your club.

I have left classes in Judo because some people were pathetic in sparring and I actually got a surprised look from the teacher when I threw a female blue belt. Being soft in these environments isn't good for a club.

The OP might have screwed it up a fair bit but those women are useless sacks of shit and don't stay for long.

I don't mean to be rude but I suspect I know more about running a profitable leisure business than you. (I could, of course, be wrong).

There is nothing to suggest that the OP is a core member of anything; plus, would you really stop doing an activity because some other dude did something really stupid and was asked to leave? That's the kind of shit women do.

Krav Maga is the new Karate; hyper commercial. The instructor was protecting his business.

You may not like or agree with it, but as things stand those girls had as much right to be taking and paying for that class as the guys present. As a result there are certain expectations that any customer would have; one of which is not to be repeatedly subjected to the nonsense the OP got up to.

I'm not white knighting here...when people pay for something they expect certain levels of customer care and oversight from those leading the activity; the topic, in this case Krav, is irrelevant.

"Changing room talk" as I call it, can wreck a martial arts or sports club in five minutes, and it's much more prevalent in the girls' locker room than men's.

I've seen it happen when an instructor fucks a student (a sacking offence in my network) particularly. Suddenly half your female students just vanish taking their £1000s pcm with them.

Oddly, female students spend way, way more money than male ones and tend to stick at it longer.

Then we have definitely been in different fitness/martial arts gyms. Majority of classes I attended were male dominated and stayed the course for years.

Women and a select number of men hardly ever stayed and it wasn't a rough class nor was it male focused. I could count a small number of women who stayed the course but my opinion of male-female classes isn't favourable. I saw it as a waste of my time to spar with a woman and new members.

Those other issues you pointed out have nothing to do with what I am trying to get across here. Sleeping with a student in any environment is bound to cause a storm.
 

TravelerKai

Peacock
Gold Member
RE: How a girl got me kicked out of my Krav Maga lesson

He went easy on you. If you were in my classes I would have made you sparred with my heavyweights for punishment, since you enjoy dominance.
 

Tuthmosis

Peacock
Gold Member
By popular demand, this thread has been re-titled, since the original name was misleading. The original smiley-face designation has also been changed to a more accurate frowny.

Old title:

How a girl got me kicked out of my Krav Maga lesson

New title:

How My Autistic Game and Massive Thirst Got Me Kicked out of Krav Maga
 

Saweeep

 
Banned
Foolsgo1d said:
CrashBangWallop said:
Foolsgo1d said:
CrashBangWallop said:
It's worse than monumentally bad game.

I hate to say this but I would clamp down on this kind of shit from one of my martial arts students if he behaved this way.

Mostly cause it could cost me a lot of £££.

If you clamped down on the core male members of any club your revenue will sink fast. Go to any gym during the warmer months and see all the women and other fairies pratting around trying to be in shape.

Come winter time or shit weather those people are gone. No income for you or your club.

I have left classes in Judo because some people were pathetic in sparring and I actually got a surprised look from the teacher when I threw a female blue belt. Being soft in these environments isn't good for a club.

The OP might have screwed it up a fair bit but those women are useless sacks of shit and don't stay for long.

I don't mean to be rude but I suspect I know more about running a profitable leisure business than you. (I could, of course, be wrong).

There is nothing to suggest that the OP is a core member of anything; plus, would you really stop doing an activity because some other dude did something really stupid and was asked to leave? That's the kind of shit women do.

Krav Maga is the new Karate; hyper commercial. The instructor was protecting his business.

You may not like or agree with it, but as things stand those girls had as much right to be taking and paying for that class as the guys present. As a result there are certain expectations that any customer would have; one of which is not to be repeatedly subjected to the nonsense the OP got up to.

I'm not white knighting here...when people pay for something they expect certain levels of customer care and oversight from those leading the activity; the topic, in this case Krav, is irrelevant.

"Changing room talk" as I call it, can wreck a martial arts or sports club in five minutes, and it's much more prevalent in the girls' locker room than men's.

I've seen it happen when an instructor fucks a student (a sacking offence in my network) particularly. Suddenly half your female students just vanish taking their £1000s pcm with them.

Oddly, female students spend way, way more money than male ones and tend to stick at it longer.

Then we have definitely been in different fitness/martial arts gyms. Majority of classes I attended were male dominated and stayed the course for years.

Women and a select number of men hardly ever stayed and it wasn't a rough class nor was it male focused. I could count a small number of women who stayed the course but my opinion of male-female classes isn't favourable. I saw it as a waste of my time to spar with a woman and new members.

Those other issues you pointed out have nothing to do with what I am trying to get across here. Sleeping with a student in any environment is bound to cause a storm.

Perhaps.

The other things I mentioned weren't really aimed at you; just general points on the subject matter really.
 
Unrelated to OP's horrific game, but, what's the point of attending a martial arts class, presumably to learn unarmed self-defense, where they mix genders when sparring?

Is Krav Maga the new McMartial Art in the West?
 

Saweeep

 
Banned
TheWastelander said:
Unrelated to OP's horrific game, but, what's the point of attending a martial arts class, presumably to learn unarmed self-defense, where they mix genders when sparring?

Is Krav Maga the new McMartial Art in the West?

Afraid so.

However, in principle there is nothing wrong with mixed gender classes as long as everyone benefits from the training.

There's nothing wrong with women learning self defence training; hell I'd encourage women doing any physical activity whatsoever.

it comes down to good instruction at the end of the day; appropriate partnering etc.


Loads of guys come to my classes to make friends and potentially meet a girlfriend; they never say it but one can tell.

We have tried loads of times running ladies only classes and they never take off.

Very few people who train martial arts want to spar at all, maybe 5%. It's best to train those people separately in an environment more akin to what most guys on this board want.
 

kaotic

Owl
Gold Member
RE: How My Autistic Game and Massive Thirst Got Me Kicked out of Krav Maga

LMFAO Tuth :laugh:

PS Krav Maga has nothing on Rex Kwon Do

ArorXKG.gif
 

Spike

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I remember that new loudmouth students at my dojo got brutally taken down by the teachers. I've seen a lot of "tough" guys wimper when the teacher put a lock on them. They usually didn't come back after a few training sessions.

I can't say the girls were specifically annoying or whimpy. Most were trying to keep up. Don't know how current millennials are doing. It's been a while since i last trained martial arts.
 

OBERYN_

 
Banned
CrashBangWallop said:
TheWastelander said:
Unrelated to OP's horrific game, but, what's the point of attending a martial arts class, presumably to learn unarmed self-defense, where they mix genders when sparring?

Is Krav Maga the new McMartial Art in the West?

Afraid so.

However, in principle there is nothing wrong with mixed gender classes as long as everyone benefits from the training.

There's nothing wrong with women learning self defence training; hell I'd encourage women doing any physical activity whatsoever.

it comes down to good instruction at the end of the day; appropriate partnering etc.


Loads of guys come to my classes to make friends and potentially meet a girlfriend; they never say it but one can tell.

We have tried loads of times running ladies only classes and they never take off.

Very few people who train martial arts want to spar at all, maybe 5%. It's best to train those people separately in an environment more akin to what most guys on this board want.

Just curious, what type of martial arts do you teach? I've heard a lot about Krav Maga and was considering joining a gym.
 

DarkTriad

Ostrich
Gold Member
CrashBangWallop said:
Foolsgo1d said:
CrashBangWallop said:
Foolsgo1d said:
CrashBangWallop said:
It's worse than monumentally bad game.

I hate to say this but I would clamp down on this kind of shit from one of my martial arts students if he behaved this way.

Mostly cause it could cost me a lot of £££.

If you clamped down on the core male members of any club your revenue will sink fast. Go to any gym during the warmer months and see all the women and other fairies pratting around trying to be in shape.

Come winter time or shit weather those people are gone. No income for you or your club.

I have left classes in Judo because some people were pathetic in sparring and I actually got a surprised look from the teacher when I threw a female blue belt. Being soft in these environments isn't good for a club.

The OP might have screwed it up a fair bit but those women are useless sacks of shit and don't stay for long.

I don't mean to be rude but I suspect I know more about running a profitable leisure business than you. (I could, of course, be wrong).

There is nothing to suggest that the OP is a core member of anything; plus, would you really stop doing an activity because some other dude did something really stupid and was asked to leave? That's the kind of shit women do.

Krav Maga is the new Karate; hyper commercial. The instructor was protecting his business.

You may not like or agree with it, but as things stand those girls had as much right to be taking and paying for that class as the guys present. As a result there are certain expectations that any customer would have; one of which is not to be repeatedly subjected to the nonsense the OP got up to.

I'm not white knighting here...when people pay for something they expect certain levels of customer care and oversight from those leading the activity; the topic, in this case Krav, is irrelevant.

"Changing room talk" as I call it, can wreck a martial arts or sports club in five minutes, and it's much more prevalent in the girls' locker room than men's.

I've seen it happen when an instructor fucks a student (a sacking offence in my network) particularly. Suddenly half your female students just vanish taking their £1000s pcm with them.

Oddly, female students spend way, way more money than male ones and tend to stick at it longer.

Then we have definitely been in different fitness/martial arts gyms. Majority of classes I attended were male dominated and stayed the course for years.

Women and a select number of men hardly ever stayed and it wasn't a rough class nor was it male focused. I could count a small number of women who stayed the course but my opinion of male-female classes isn't favourable. I saw it as a waste of my time to spar with a woman and new members.

Those other issues you pointed out have nothing to do with what I am trying to get across here. Sleeping with a student in any environment is bound to cause a storm.

Perhaps.

The other things I mentioned weren't really aimed at you; just general points on the subject matter really.

Crash, been training and teaching at multiple places for decades, you're right he's wrong. Also, I've never seen a bluebelt at a Judo club.
 

DarkTriad

Ostrich
Gold Member
TheWastelander said:
Unrelated to OP's horrific game, but, what's the point of attending a martial arts class, presumably to learn unarmed self-defense, where they mix genders when sparring?

Is Krav Maga the new McMartial Art in the West?

I'm a massive human being that has been lifting hard and training for decades. There is a bigger discrepancy between me and a lightweight male than between the average man and woman. I give nobody more than they're prepared to learn from, sparring is not a competition, it's to PREPARE you for competition and the cold hard world.


If it's my job to make you better, I'll make it happen, whether you're a man or a woman, a pro or a pussy. You don't do that by giving them what they can't grow from.

"Bravery is an accumulation of discipline.".

If they can't handle heavy shit, I'll give them what they can handle till they develop the tools to handle heavier shit. It's a progression, no matter where you're starting from. If someone wants to bench 400lbs, you don't start by loading 400lbs on the bar, you bring them along in a rational progression from wherever they're starting from.
 

Wutang

Hummingbird
Gold Member
TheWastelander said:
Unrelated to OP's horrific game, but, what's the point of attending a martial arts class, presumably to learn unarmed self-defense, where they mix genders when sparring?

Is Krav Maga the new McMartial Art in the West?

A guy isn't going to get much benefit from sparring/rolling with a girl when training for self-defense situations but a girl would get benefits. And let's face it, in a truly dangerous situation she is more likely to be attacked by a man than a woman. Btw I'm not counting Worldstar ghetto girl fights as a "truly dangerous situation".

Even if the girl can't ultimately defeat a male attacker she can hopefully at least fend him off enough to the point she she can escape safely. Remember, in self-defense situations winning doesn't have to mean defeating your opponent. It just means being able to survive in an acceptable state.
 
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