How to be exempted from mandatory vaccinations

Eusebius Erasmus

Eusebius Erasmus

Ostrich
Orthodox
02Hero said:
I have not tried/tested this but if the time comes and my employer wants me to explain why I do not have the vaccine I will tell him my doctor advised me to not take it because of previous bad experiences with vaccines.

If that is not enough then they can kick me out. I will survive one way or another.

I am not religious and thus I cannot use any religious reasons.
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Some lawyers, like Rocco Galati, state clearly that if you file for an exemption then you are implicitly complying with the illegal and evil mandates, and your legal wiggle room is compromised. I don’t know if he’s correct, but he suggests to not comply at all: refuse to disclose your vaccine status one way or the other.

Think about it. If you file for an exemption, you’re actually agreeing with the mandate, while wanting to be ‘exempt’ from its implementation in your case.
 
Sword

Sword

Sparrow
Catholic
So my wife finally got the dreaded 'sign this or else' corona form, it offered 3 options, a medical exemption, a 'personal' exemption and last a religious. The whole thing was 3 pages long, and had a bunch of bs on it about writing a paragraph about 'why' this is your religious exemption as well as who is your religious leader. More hoops to hop through to try to funnel people into the clot shot.

They outright state that 'personal, philosophical or opinions are not considered strongly held beliefs' (lolz). I think if you pick the 'personal exemption' they will just deny it (it oddly doesnt even have the paragraph to fill out). So go the fetal cell route and just I'll sign her thing. She has a hard time lying, which is unfortunate as a truthful girl is forced to lie.
 
inthefade

inthefade

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
Sword said:
So my wife finally got the dreaded 'sign this or else' corona form, it offered 3 options, a medical exemption, a 'personal' exemption and last a religious. The whole thing was 3 pages long, and had a bunch of bs on it about writing a paragraph about 'why' this is your religious exemption as well as who is your religious leader. More hoops to hop through to try to funnel people into the clot shot.

They outright state that 'personal, philosophical or opinions are not considered strongly held beliefs' (lolz). I think if you pick the 'personal exemption' they will just deny it (it oddly doesnt even have the paragraph to fill out). So go the fetal cell route and just I'll sign her thing. She has a hard time lying, which is unfortunate as a truthful girl is forced to lie.
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DO NOT SIGN THEIR FORMS. Make your own.
 
soli.deo.gloria

soli.deo.gloria

Woodpecker
Orthodox
Gold Member
Sword said:
Is there something specific to watch out for? I am pretty good looking for (((legal))) tricks. Also, you file your own thing out and they will just reject it likely.
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Just tell them you are unable to disclose your personal health status and you will not be coerced to sign any documents to that effect. Do not say if you are or are not vaccinated. It's none of their business so call their bluff. If they are going to fire you over non-vaccination they will likely find a way to do it regardless, even if you "object". Don't play their game.
 
Lawrence87

Lawrence87

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I guess the main thing when going into a fight is being prepared to lose.

As things stand it works to my advantage that my contract does not say anything about innoculations, my medical details are private, there is good union representation (can be a bad thing, but they'd fight my corner at least), I've got religious grounds to refuse the vaccine.

All of these defences might fail of course, however I'd rather lose my job than get the vaccine. Whatever might happen beyond that, I'll put my trust in God.
 
M

Matthewww

Pigeon
Other Christian
I know most people here don't work for the government, local, state, federal, or even something like a government owned hospital, but if you do, I think Article 6, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution might help out. It is the section prohibiting religious tests. If you claim a religious exemption, that's it, they can't test it, and tell you it's not good enough. Back in the day England used to impose religious tests requiring one to deny the transubstantiation of the eucharist to prohibit Catholics from holding government positions. The constitution explicitly prohibits a test like that. If you believe a vaccine defiles the temple of your body, or aborted fetal cells are immoral, just tell them you are against it on religious principle, and if they as you to state those principles, as if it is a religious test. They'll loose, badly, if they go before a judge in this matter, you can use their own rules against them.
 
C-Note

C-Note

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Gold Member
Matthewww said:
I know most people here don't work for the government, local, state, federal, or even something like a government owned hospital, but if you do, I think Article 6, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution might help out. It is the section prohibiting religious tests. If you claim a religious exemption, that's it, they can't test it, and tell you it's not good enough. Back in the day England used to impose religious tests requiring one to deny the transubstantiation of the eucharist to prohibit Catholics from holding government positions. The constitution explicitly prohibits a test like that. If you believe a vaccine defiles the temple of your body, or aborted fetal cells are immoral, just tell them you are against it on religious principle, and if they as you to state those principles, as if it is a religious test. They'll loose, badly, if they go before a judge in this matter, you can use their own rules against them.
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I believe this is one of the points made by the lawyer in a video presentation posted in one of the threads. People working for companies, like Conway Medical, that are forcing them to explain their religious beliefs when requesting a religious exemption probably need to start dropping lawsuits.
 
SeekingTruth

SeekingTruth

Kingfisher
Catholic
JustinHS

JustinHS

Robin
Orthodox
So, my union just sent out a PDF on how to be religiously exempt from the stab. Problem is, the Abp of the GOA stated recently that NO EXEMPTIONS will be given. I’d need to provide some documentation/corroboration to demonstrate the sincerity and religious nature of my belief and why it prevents me from being stabbinated.

I already telework 100%, so it’s not like I’m going into the office at all.

What could I use to get around the GOARCH Archbishop’s statement?

Revelation 13 comes to mind, but what else? Are there any jurisdictions that are giving out religious exemptions? I don’t think I need one from a hierarch since it states that I just need a sincerely held belief that this vaxx is a type of mark of the beast.
 
MichaelWitcoff

MichaelWitcoff

Hummingbird
Orthodox
JustinHS said:
So, my union just sent out a PDF on how to be religiously exempt from the stab. Problem is, the Abp of the GOA stated recently that NO EXEMPTIONS will be given. I’d need to provide some documentation/corroboration to demonstrate the sincerity and religious nature of my belief and why it prevents me from being stabbinated.

I already telework 100%, so it’s not like I’m going into the office at all.

What could I use to get around the GOARCH Archbishop’s statement?

Revelation 13 comes to mind, but what else? Are there any jurisdictions that are giving out religious exemptions? I don’t think I need one from a hierarch since it states that I just need a sincerely held belief that this vaxx is a type of mark of the beast.
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Ask a priest from a different jurisdiction, your employer isn't going to know the difference between Greek and Russian Orthodoxy. I don't know Abuna John Claypool or anything about him, but he recently said he'd give an exemption to anyone under Abp Elpidophoros whose priest denies them the letter they need.

About Us — Abuna John

www.abunajohn.com www.abunajohn.com
 
jarlo

jarlo

Woodpecker
Orthodox
MichaelWitcoff said:
Ask a priest from a different jurisdiction, your employer isn't going to know the difference between Greek and Russian Orthodoxy. I don't know Abuna John Claypool or anything about him, but he recently said he'd give an exemption to anyone under Abp Elpidophoros whose priest denies them the letter they need.

About Us — Abuna John

www.abunajohn.com www.abunajohn.com
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Bit of a non sequitir, but is Abuna John canonically orthodox? From reading that website, it looks like he serves under Patriarch Irenaios, who seems to have been deposed under strange circumstances.
 
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