Hades said:Where are you at now in terms of numbers, weight, and body composition?
I second the needles.
WesternCancer said:Why do you want to get as big as the bodybuilders you see on the internet?
augen sehen said:There are many different ways, but they all involve sustained effort for 5 years+. Also, the longer you have the muscle, the longer you'll keep it - that's how you can always tell retired PE teachers or ex-army even if they haven't picked up a barbell in decades. Or at least you used to. Who the fuck knows what namby-pamby PE teachers kids today have to make do with.
One way is to gain strength first, and then add muscle-building exercises to taste. This was my way since I was always a weakling and I just wanted to lift some heavy weight. Along the way I couldn't help but pick up some definition, but I really started to look like I work out once I started the 8-12 rep exercises, sustained holds, different angles etc.
The other way is to just do the bodybuilding exercises to begin with. I'm not such a big fan of this. I associate starting off with isolation exercises with the weaklings in the gym who can never grow.
Also, what is your body type? Ectomorph, mesomorph, endomorph or a combination? I'm naturally an endomorph (stick thin when young/skinny fat once I got older) so I have to work out daily and eat a lot to maintain a decent physique.
Third, I third the needles comment. But that comes after 3-5 years of sustained work, once you've grown as big as you're going to naturally.
Giovonny said:1. Eat a ton of good food
2. Lift a ton of weight.
3. Do steroids
Doctor said:Find the best coach possible. There are tons of them online. Sort through the garbage. Programming is far more difficult and important than most people realize.
Do the same for a diet coach. The longer you work with them the better they'll understand your body.
Find training partners that are bigger and stronger than you. Don't be the big fish in the little pond.
Stay off the sauce for as long as you can. I'd put a round number of at least 5 years following the above. Probably longer.
brk9912 said:Hades said:Where are you at now in terms of numbers, weight, and body composition?
I second the needles.
Weight: 210
Not sure about body composition on things like body fat percentage and such.
brk9912 said:Doctor said:Find the best coach possible. There are tons of them online. Sort through the garbage. Programming is far more difficult and important than most people realize.
Do the same for a diet coach. The longer you work with them the better they'll understand your body.
Find training partners that are bigger and stronger than you. Don't be the big fish in the little pond.
Stay off the sauce for as long as you can. I'd put a round number of at least 5 years following the above. Probably longer.
Programming? What do you mean?
WesternCancer said:Also remember youre nothing more than a guy who lifts for aesthetics at the gym until you actually step on the stage and compete
Honestly, after watching that documentary, I'll have to really think about what I want. This may not be something that I wanna jump into. Those guys work their asses off, but that doesn't mean that it would work best for me.Doctor said:WesternCancer said:Also remember youre nothing more than a guy who lifts for aesthetics at the gym until you actually step on the stage and compete
This is also immensely important. Don't be that guy who talks about being a bodybuilder without ever competing. You need to compete. Even when you think you aren't ready you need to compete. Competing shows you exactly where you stand compared to others. You can track your progress more precisely. It will keep you modest about where you're at. And you will learn about yourself while doing a competition cut. I can't testify to it, but I've heard cutting for a competition gets easier the more practiced you are at it. Your first few years you may loathe doing endless hours of cardio during your prep. Then you figure out how to numb your mind while doing it and everything just becomes habit. And keep in mind that Ronnie Coleman is (according to a quick google) 48 this year. That means he was at his peak in his mid to late 30s and into his 40s. I'd gander to say he put in close to two decades of hard work before he reached that peak. Think about that.
brk9912 said:
brk9912 said:WesternCancer said:Why do you want to get as big as the bodybuilders you see on the internet?
Because I think it's cool and it looks like it would be fun and challenging to attempt.