sterling_archer
Hummingbird
Haven't heard about that primitiveways, but I get it. Sometime ago basically only real deal were bowyers that would teach you in person, with occasional good books being published but being pricey.flanders said:I got into the hobby back when there were a few somewhat ugly geocities-looking blogs about it. "Primitiveways" was my go-to for a long time.
I do like plastic nocks for target arrows, though wooden nocks with a bit of fake sinew/glue wrap on the end has an aesthetic look that's hard to turn down, even though they're labor intensive. I have had very good luck with buying cedar shafts online (root river archery, I think?). When I couldn't find field points I would use a 5/16" nut attached to the end of the arrow for shooting stumps. Your mileage may vary with that one but if you're sourcing dowels for fairly cheap it's something to think about. Are you getting cedar shafts?
It is kind of a shame though with the market ... fiberglass bows ruined a lot of the culture and archery as a pastime.
Everything came to be about fps, spining arrows to be perfect, seeking perfect arrowheads. That is not really so bad, but who can claim to be primitive or traditional when every piece of equipment or your skill is about mathematical calculations. I admit I use mass calculator but that is more of an guide to see what to expect at the end.
Bowhunters are a small but lively crowd in my area so I usually would talk to them at the range and offer a medium/lowball price for a bow I already made (and was willing to get rid of). When your buyer is a guy who is fine with spending $1k on a pimped out compound bow setup, somebody selling a bow for sixty to a hundred bucks is bound to get them interested, especially if you brought it to the range and are reliably placing arrows with it in front of them. If you have a lot of bows sitting around you don't want it's something to think about. I was lucky to get lumber for free and I usually billed 15$/hr for labor for good "made to order" bows.
That is a good advice but unfortunately bow hunting is prohibited in Croatia. Only place where it is legal are some particular places which I know nothing about. Not sure who hunts there as our hunters are not exactly guys I could picture stalking the white tails in the woods. More of a pot bellied, sitting in a tower (or what is that called) type of guys if you know what I mean.
Currently 2 bows I am working on will be for sale. I will put them on local advertisement page that is similar to craigslist.
My spine tester was pretty ghetto but it worked great. I had a two pound lead weight (everything spray enameled to avoid rubbing lead particles on everything), with a protractor mounted in the center and a few pennies as a counterweight.
Mine is very simple too, two points on which arrow rests and place to clamp calipers which will measure how much arrow deflexed.
I can't really see any of your pictures but you probably have a way better setup. If I could have ever gotten my hands on a garage with good wiring, an electric planer, and a few other nice things, that could have been a badass workshop. I would like to have a blacksmith's forge some day though. I might post a few pictures in the thread since this seems like it might be the general archery thread.
What do you mean, you cannot see my pictures? I think the posting service is still showing them correctly.
Btw, I don't like using power tools for bow building except maybe angle grinder to help me clean the transitions from handle to limb.
@bold, very true. Paleo planet and primitive archer are great forums, even if you just lurk through the threads. A few really legendary posters on there.
Really, it's never been a better time to be into this hobby, especially with how incredible youtube is. Back in the day all I had was "the leatherwall" that was absolute trash, and another called "buildabow" I think, that one was just awful, full of twelve year olds .. a whole subforum that was just affiliate links. If you wanted results you had to actually buy books over mail, read them, and carefully puzzle out what they were talking about with their badly drawn diagrams, and even then that was a crapshoot since couldn't easily access dozens/hundreds of online reviews like on amazon.
It is amazing how quickly I could get help there. Countless times I got guidance about tiller profile or how to do particular stuff. More on primitive archer though as I find that paleo planet archery section is a bit dead in recent times.
Board bows are good to get some practice in, though I do like sapling bows quite a lot, got a few nice whitewood cherokee style bendy-handle longbows. That is probably my favorite style of bow overall, it's not very labor intensive and they always come out looking great. I'll be interested in seeing pictures of the black locust bow you have in the works. Good luck keeping the belly from crystalling, I hear BL can be challenging to work with. Are you familiar with heat treating?
I practically make most of my bows from saplings. I recently started to experiment with black locust since that wood is pretty good choice for flatbows. Apparently it is very similar to osage in regards ring chasing and whole composition. Heartwood is similar in color too. I don't know when I will start that Cherokee bow, but I will send you a PM with pictures if you want when I get into it.
Indeed, I also heard BL will punish you with wrong tiller by showing you chrysals on the belly. To counter that they say best design for it is pyramid bow. I am not doing that at the moment but I am making a regular flatbow design. Still I will pay great attention to potential chrysals.
I am familiar with heat treating and recently I am experimenting with recurving the tips.
