Huge Beginners Guide to Men's Style
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I really don't like sleeves and pants that are too short yet I've noticed for the past few years that this seems to be the style now. The clothes look slightly too small.
Great post.
Break down summer style
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Break down summer style
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HankRearden said:
Indeed, I'm sure a lot of us here considered this problem haha.
I think the answer is two separate pairs of nice shoes.
1) One pair is for dates, and things like happy-hour game.
2) Another pair, also nice, for clubs. This pair, you'd need to clean basically after every night out, and then shine up so they look good. Regular maintenance is crucial, otherwise even a top-end shoe will look like you pulled it out of a trash can on the way to the club. That being said, one you are prepared to sacrifice this pair of shoes for a good cause, they will actually last a long time and still look good.
rottenapple said:
Nice pants and shoes with a tanktop is the best way to rock one in my opinion. There's a Youtube PUA where I live whose go to outfit when daygaming is a tanktop with nice pants and very fancy dress shoes, it creates a very interesting high/low contrast.
General Stalin said:
None of those things are "hipster" or "yuppie". Boat shoes are preppy, docs are punk/skinhead, and chukka's and wingtip's are menswear classics. You'll just see hipsters and yuppie's wearing them because they dress better and are more likely to have the cash to afford them on average.
The problem with the casual sneakers you listed is that every single dude from the age of 14 and above is wearing them. Some casual sneakers look better then other's (I'm partial to vintage Vans Sk8 shoes and Supra's stuff though I don't own any), but they're best avoided in general. Your shoes set the tone for your entire outfit, when you wear shoes like that you're going to signal to the world that you're a run of the mill average chode. This is why I recommended replacing your sneakers with desert boots, they look great and are an easy way to ease guys into dressing well.
Carlos100 said:
This is a big issue. Suede desert boots are perfect for a club because it's not like it has any leather to be destroyed, but they're not super sturdy. Wingtips look amazing and are sturdy but you don't want to get the leather fucked up by other people's shoes. I try my best to avoid getting them dirty and always clean them afterwards but it's a worry. The answer (for me at least) is the Doc Martens 1461 Derby shoes in black that I posted on the sheet. They're incredibly durable and won't look like shit after a night clubbing.
WestIndianArchie said:
Summer style's a tough one. Especially because I rarely wear shorts. I personally rock a tight fitting t-shirt or a short sleeve shirt with my khaki/burgundy chinos and either my boat shoes or wingtips.
Deluge said:
Here in the States, Spring/Summer Warm Weather brings out the chicks.
So putting together something that looks cool, but doesn't have you sweating your balls off is muy importante.
I usually just end up sweating.
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Osiris said:
Depends where you live. As I prefaced in the introduction, something like desert boots that aren't too rare where I'm at may be too fashion forward in a lot of places, but on the flipside the items I recommended might not cut it in a fashion capital. It's up to you to figure out what's congruent for where you're at.
WestIndianArchie said:
Fair enough. As much as I've been complaining about winter atm the fact is Australian winters aren't that cold, so for me there's a lot more overlap in what I can wear between the seasons then there would be for you in DC. As a rule, it's harder to dress well the warmer the weather is which is a bitch, but at least if you're in shape you can make up for it by showing off more muscle.
Deluge said:
I always fancied these. My only hesitation is that they are pretty wide in the sole and do not offer much support. I didn't care about this stuff before, but it is a legitimate concern as you are wearing them all day.
Do you have anything to say about shoe fitting, avoiding certain fits, etc?
I disagree about the sneakers btw. I think they make awesome and comfortable basics for casual situations if you know how to pair them well with the rest of your clothes. If you do that you'll come up with consistently good looking outfits for casual situations(a walk by the beach, or a night out out a local pub).
Yes, most other guys wear them, but most other guys don't know how to color coordinate or wear clothes that fit.
Btw, the best dressed man I saw recently paired bright Green New Balance sneakers with a suit and a bright green pocket square. I instantly noticed it.
In fact another forum member was with me and we both thought the dude was dressed sharp as hell. Before seeing him I thought people who wore sneakers with suits with idiots, but it just worked with that combination because of the green pocket square matching with the shoes. Yes, a bit flashy but we were in a suit store and he seemed like a regular there.
Yes, most other guys wear them, but most other guys don't know how to color coordinate or wear clothes that fit.
Btw, the best dressed man I saw recently paired bright Green New Balance sneakers with a suit and a bright green pocket square. I instantly noticed it.
In fact another forum member was with me and we both thought the dude was dressed sharp as hell. Before seeing him I thought people who wore sneakers with suits with idiots, but it just worked with that combination because of the green pocket square matching with the shoes. Yes, a bit flashy but we were in a suit store and he seemed like a regular there.
nomansland said:
I've never had a problem with my desert boots fit. The only way to prevent this from happening is trying em on before you buy. Desert boots offer more support than most sneakers, but not as much as dress shoes. If you want tons of support consider Docs or similar boot brands.
Saladin said:
Damn man, you didn't mention any issues when you bought them. How would insoles help them fit around your toes better though?
I have a pair of these and they seem to work fairly well.
Do you find that tan or khaki desert boots go ok with grey jeans? It seems to me that black shoes go best with medium-grey jeans, but black desert boots don't seem to make a lot of sense, if they exist. Perhaps those Doc Martens you mention would be better.
Do you find that tan or khaki desert boots go ok with grey jeans? It seems to me that black shoes go best with medium-grey jeans, but black desert boots don't seem to make a lot of sense, if they exist. Perhaps those Doc Martens you mention would be better.
Firstly great data sheet- I recently got the clarks desert boot and really like them.
The main problem I have is getting jeans/trousers that actually fit me well. Most of my jeans are straight cut jeans, and they are a little tight in the quads and crotch, but then get baggy at the bottim, (they dont really taper). Have you got any reccomendations for jeans that taper, but fit around big quads and ass?
The main problem I have is getting jeans/trousers that actually fit me well. Most of my jeans are straight cut jeans, and they are a little tight in the quads and crotch, but then get baggy at the bottim, (they dont really taper). Have you got any reccomendations for jeans that taper, but fit around big quads and ass?
Carlos100 said:
Yeah, you'd want to pair a darker colour of shoe with grey jeans, and preferably a boot (to compliment the urban flavour of grey jeans).
I've seen black desert boots, only they are in finished leather not suede. Strictly speaking those would be chukka boots -- basically deserts are chukkas in suede with a crepe sole. They'd be more appropriate with grey jeans, or a dressed-down suit; at the end of the day they're still casual footwear.
Docs are your universal casual footwear; they go with pretty much anything unless it's summer.
Cyr said:
I've had the same issue in the past. I've got chunky quads from cycling and my jeans used to fit snugly around my thighs and bum. Skinny jeans mightn't work for you. There are tapered jeans around, try Wranglers or Levi's 508. Don't bother with straight or relaxed jeans.
Carlos100 said:
I'd have to see pics of the combo to know if they'd go well with grey jeans. Black Docs would work with them though, I've seen that look around.
Black suede desert boots do exist (I wouldn't wear them though), coincidentally there was a pair in the datasheet's black jeans pic.
Cyr said:
I'm having a similar problem, I've started to skip leg day because I can't afford to replace my jeans right now :dodgy: If you're legs are struggling to fit into straight cut jeans, they must be pretty damn big. Try asking sand, he seems to be an expert on jeans.
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Thoughts on casual style? I know it's harder as it has less defined rules when compared to the classics that you are trying to explain to the masses here. I'd love to see a thread on that as I find it easy to master the classic well dressed style but have a harder time putting unique casual outfits togeather.
The fashion blog world seems hell bent on having everyone dress in blazers, AE strands, retro boat wear, etc which I often find too dressy for places like dive bars, the college scene, concerts, etc. My friend is one of these all suits all the time converts and I can't help but feel like he looks overdressed all the damn time.
The fashion blog world seems hell bent on having everyone dress in blazers, AE strands, retro boat wear, etc which I often find too dressy for places like dive bars, the college scene, concerts, etc. My friend is one of these all suits all the time converts and I can't help but feel like he looks overdressed all the damn time.
I think the point of contention with "hipster" style discussed here is that a large percentage of men identify caring about fashion with being feminine. "Only faggots care about what's 'in' or focus so much on putting a contemporary looking outfit together."
I can see both sides of the argument - lots of men care more about wearing clothes that simply look good on them individually rather than caring about if they are being fashion-forward or style relevant with what is trendy nowadays. I for one am a bit of a counter-culturalist when it comes to many things including pop-culture and fashion trends. One reason is you can't stick out if you are just going along with what others are doing, and the other is that you feel like a fucking sheep if you are just going along with what others are doing. It's the old conundrum of changing things about your life--style, social behavior, philosophies, etc.--are you trying to be someone you are not, or are you just evolving as a person?
I know when I see a group of aviator-boat-shoe-khaki-shorts bros I just get the impression they are all a bunch of cunts. Maybe I'm just really misanthropic and cynical but whatever. I know I'm not one to rock desert boots or boat shoes for sure.
I can see both sides of the argument - lots of men care more about wearing clothes that simply look good on them individually rather than caring about if they are being fashion-forward or style relevant with what is trendy nowadays. I for one am a bit of a counter-culturalist when it comes to many things including pop-culture and fashion trends. One reason is you can't stick out if you are just going along with what others are doing, and the other is that you feel like a fucking sheep if you are just going along with what others are doing. It's the old conundrum of changing things about your life--style, social behavior, philosophies, etc.--are you trying to be someone you are not, or are you just evolving as a person?
I know when I see a group of aviator-boat-shoe-khaki-shorts bros I just get the impression they are all a bunch of cunts. Maybe I'm just really misanthropic and cynical but whatever. I know I'm not one to rock desert boots or boat shoes for sure.
few months ago i made apt he decision to start dressing better. first thing i did was upped my shoe game. i stopped wearing sandals and sneakers, unless im at the beach/pool or gym.
i bought a several types of shoes including boat, chukkas and dress shoes.
by far my favorite pair i picked up were these red wing chukkas
http://www.redwingheritage.eu/boots...e-eu/3139-red-wing-heritage-mens-chukka-boot/
i searched around and was able to get them for under $200
i bought a several types of shoes including boat, chukkas and dress shoes.
by far my favorite pair i picked up were these red wing chukkas
http://www.redwingheritage.eu/boots...e-eu/3139-red-wing-heritage-mens-chukka-boot/
i searched around and was able to get them for under $200