Huge Beginners Guide to Men's Style

[worldwide2014]

Hey everybody I was wondering if you all could help me out.

I'm an American going to Europe this summer and I want to look good. I have gotten my style down pretty good with the button down shirts and the size length. I wear them untucked for a casual look and make sure the button down shirts are even all the way around the bottom of them and don't have the "v" shape towards the bottom of it where it's supposed to be tucked in. However, it will be hot during the summer time in Europe. About me I'm 5'10 and 145 pounds, yes pretty skinny I know. I would much rather wear long sleeve button down shirts, as they fit my frame better since I'm skinny but as I said this might not be a choice in the summer time. So these are my questions:

1. Should I wear short sleeve button down shirts? If so, should the sleeves go just below my shoulders or just above my shoulders? Keep in mind I'm skinny without muscle as well.

2. Should I keep my long sleeve shirts and just roll them up? One of the things I don't want to happen is to get hot as shit in the club.

3. I have a few button down shirts where they are fitted for my neck size (I had it measured at the store), but they're to long at the bottom and have the "v" shape to them at the bottom. Can I take these shirts to a tailoring shop to trim it down so there's no longer a "v" shape at the bottom? Or are tailoring shops only for suits? Furthermore, could I have these shirts made into short sleeve button down shirts? I've had a hard time finding button down shirts that aren't to long on me in stores.

4. Normally with my button down shirts I wear white reeboks and some dark blue jeans with them. I guess this is looked down upon and perhaps I need to upgrade my shoes - would brown "loafers" be ok with a button down blue shirt and blue jeans?

5. In central Europe during the summer time, can I just wear the long sleeve button down shirts without sweating my ass off at night time or will be that be impossible?

6. In Budapest and other capitol central European cities, do they have dry cleaners like they do in the USA? I can have my button down shirts dry cleaned and pressed for a nice $1.50 down the road which saves me time and money. I'm hoping they have laundromats similar to this in Budapest and other capitol European cities?

7. Last question - This might seem like a stupid question. My belt keeps getting a tear in it after a few months. The pants that I have now are are a little loose on my waist. I don't want to go any size lower because then my junk feels uncomfortable and it's to tight for me. I also use the same belt for work (I always have my shirt untucked so nobody ever sees the belt) also. Is it the size of my pants/belt or the stress I'm causing the belt wearing it to work as well as wearing it with my blue jeans causing it to break?

 

[ShooterMikgavin]

Hey guys, is it acceptable to wear white k swiss shoes like these with blue jeans on a night out or is it goofy to pair any running kinda shoes with jeans.

 

[rottenapple]

Hey guys, is it acceptable to wear white k swiss shoes like these with blue jeans on a night out or is it goofy to pair any running kinda shoes with jeans.

Read through this whole thread again and think about what could possible be the answer to your question.

 

[LouEvilSlugger]

I have been wearing German Army trainers for over a while now, you can find them on eBay pretty easily for as low as 45 euros shipped, looks defefinitely smarter and less childish than Chucks/Nike/Adidas

As far as jeans, I pretty much only wear A.P.C. and I'm on my third pair right now and I have been wearing them for nearly 2 years, best bang for your buck if you size properly and they look good with everything

I want a pair of these, how can you get them in the US ?

Search for "bundeswehr turnschuhe", "bundeswehr hallenschuhe" or "bundeswehr sportschuhe" on ebay.de. Get your Converse/Vans size.

 

[dispenser]

Trendy = Gay...
That includes chukkas, gingram shirts, skinny jeans, highwater pants/jeans, anything plaid (every beta I know owns at least 4 plaid shirts), pastel colored pants, boat shoes with rolled up pants to show off your ankles, thick glasses, "flash" like brightly colored pocket squares and fancy socks or button down shirts that aren't white, blue, grey, or black... all of those just scream "I'm a dandy homosexual" - or at the very least, that you're trying too hard.

Half the point of peacocking is to brazenly invite a beatdown, but strut around fearlessly. It's a bluff we couldn't afford to make in the stone age, but which we can get away with in a (well-policed) modern city just by keeping our cool and letting the haters hate.
True, hipsters do it in a catty way just because they feel entitled, and because they are almost innocent of how dangerous the world can be, but if you maintain a masculine vibe while peacocking, women will understand the implications.
Trend followers seek approval - but unusual flash is just that, unusual, eye-catching, interesting, daring.

This is partly why I agree with you about classical tailoring. To be above the trends is to stand out from the crowd in the best way. You also invite the most hatred, envy and physical violence by wearing a good suit - in other words, it means you believe you're untouchable. That's appealing, even if in reality all it means is that you believe you can afford a tip to the staff and a taxi through the bad neighbourhoods.

The recommendation to find the "tightest jeans you can find"...
My boys need some room. There's nothing gayer than putting your balls in a vice for fashion's sake. Find some jeans that are comfortable and fit well and you'll stand out... Go with straight fit. They're called straight fit for a reason...

I've pretty much ejected jeans from my wardrobe. They're too hard on the balls at the best of times.

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2. Should I keep my long sleeve shirts and just roll them up?

This. Short sleeved shirts strike me as being a bit dorky. Unless you're in a tropical area, but even then you'd be better off in longsleeved linen.

Can I take these shirts to a tailoring shop to trim it down so there's no longer a "v" shape at the bottom? Or are tailoring shops only for suits? Furthermore, could I have these shirts made into short sleeve button down shirts? I've had a hard time finding button down shirts that aren't to long on me in stores.

I'm pretty sure they could accomodate you on both counts. I've had blousy shirts taken in at the sides a few times. Your shirt might still flare open slightly after being shortened, but I'd consider that more flattering than a straight line ending.

4. Normally with my button down shirts I wear white reeboks and some dark blue jeans with them. I guess this is looked down upon and perhaps I need to upgrade my shoes - would brown "loafers" be ok with a button down blue shirt and blue jeans?

Loafers are a bit of an 'advanced' move. The OP has solid advice as far as shoes go.

My belt keeps getting a tear in it after a few months. (...) Is it the size of my pants/belt or the stress I'm causing the belt wearing it to work as well as wearing it with my blue jeans causing it to break?

I think it's just bad leather. If you don't want to get into judging good versus bad leather, consider a canvas belt.

 

[Repo]

I think the blue pants and dark shoes only works because its a bright blue. If it were a dark blue, brown would typically be a better color. For example, see the first pic in this thread. Black shoes just wouldn't work with that.

 

[Chevalier De Seingalt]

I've pretty much ejected jeans from my wardrobe. They're too hard on the balls at the best of times.

I also stopped wearing jeans over the last couple of years. But last night I was strolling around in my new stupidly expensive A.P.C. jeans (not entirely sure what possessed me to buy them) and hot girls were giving me hard eye contact all over the place. Might have to start wearing them more, hopefully the balls will thank me later.

 

[zurtac69]

hey guys, is there one expert it that know the name of this brand? i just have one picture of a pull with the logo

thanks for the help

 

[Pride male]

My golden rule when it comes to fashion : Wear what everyone else is wearing. Helps you fit in with the latest trend.

 

[Pontifex Maximus]

hey guys, is there one expert it that know the name of this brand? i just have one picture of a pull with the logo

thanks for the help

http://hansenandjacob.com/portfolio/autumn-collection-2014-men/

 

[Suits]

My golden rule when it comes to fashion : Wear what everyone else is wearing. Helps you fit in with the latest trend.

Fashion and style are two very different things.

 

[heavy]

Do any of you studs have advice on dress shirts with sweaters? Specifically, I'm 5'9", athletic build. If you could post good/bad and why, that'd be fantastic. I'm trying to spritz up my winter clothes with some more style.

A couple things I've read:

Crew sweaters are better for skinnier guys, v-necks better for bigger. From a style perspective, I'm looking to elongate my build to make me look slightly taller, so while I could do either, a v neck is probably better.

I like solid colors a lot, because they're easy, although I did just buy a nice brown argyle sweater I plan to wear.

Is it tough to really screw up? I try stuff on and don't really know, mostly because I've never dressed all that stylish.

 

[Steelex]

Any advice for clothing for big muscular guys?

I love the hipster look but most of it looks pretty fucking retarded on a big ass guy. I tend to just wear jeans and Henley's in the fall, and jeans and t shirts in the summer since that's all I can find that tends to look right. However I'd like to find some other looks that work for me without looking like a bodybuilder in hipster/fashionista clothing.

 

[Richard Turpin]

A big thank-you for the tan brogues recommendation. I'm getting a little old for 'trainers with everything' and having read through this thread, I bought a very nice pair of brogues recently when I saw them half-price. Got loads of positive attention from the right sort of people at a night out recently. Many great tips in the rest of the thread also.

 

[Ski pro]

I think there is also an element of dressing for who you are.

I recently had quite a big change in status so for me dressing like the off season ski bum I used to dress like now requires something more befitting of my new status.

I'm currently in Italy and find myself shopping for smart shoes and shirts.

 

[Super_Fire]

Do any of you studs have advice on dress shirts with sweaters?

Don't do it.

 

[HD668B]

3 types of sweaters you should own, demonstrated by mcqueen

focus on the Aran jumper

bruce springsteen: how to wear a jean jacket (note the accessories and messy haircut)

proper distressed bomber jacket by elon musk:

but probably the easiest way to look stylish in a "mainstream way" is a nice pair of blue jeans a little bit distressed (diesel), a white v-neck, brown leather shoes and a long black pea-coat

From Paris with Love (watch the movie btw)

 

[General Stalin]

Do any of you studs have advice on dress shirts with sweaters?

Don't do it.

I disagree, but you gotta think outside the box.

Do NOT do the white-toast ass looking v-neck-sweater-and-shirt/tie combo:

But, if you've got the chops, DO do a dress shirt/tie with a cardigan/shawl (extra points if you can pull off the big fluffy knit cardigan):

A good sweater/dress shirt look requires you to be slightly eccentric. You can't look try hard. It looks best if you play with cool colors and thread pattern combos that really look neat together. I love fluffy-ass sweaters and shawls.

EDIT:

I think the point of contention with "hipster" style discussed here is that a large percentage of men identify caring about fashion with being feminine. "Only faggots care about what's 'in' or focus so much on putting a contemporary looking outfit together."

I can see both sides of the argument - lots of men care more about wearing clothes that simply look good on them individually rather than caring about if they are being fashion-forward or style relevant with what is trendy nowadays. I for one am a bit of a counter-culturalist when it comes to many things including pop-culture and fashion trends. One reason is you can't stick out if you are just going along with what others are doing, and the other is that you feel like a fucking sheep if you are just going along with what others are doing. It's the old conundrum of changing things about your life--style, social behavior, philosophies, etc.--are you trying to be someone you are not, or are you just evolving as a person?

I know when I see a group of aviator-boat-shoe-khaki-shorts bros I just get the impression they are all a bunch of cunts. Maybe I'm just really misanthropic and cynical but whatever. I know I'm not one to rock desert boots or boat shoes for sure.

I still feel this way about fashion/identity philosophy, but I definitely fuck with desert boots and all kinds of other shit nowadays.

 

[whiteknightrises]

No hate but every pic in the OP the guys look like total squares.

Here is some better advice (check my rep, posts, etc. to get an idea of who I am):

1. Dress like you are somebody that gets laid (while still being somewhat true to yourself)

The pics from the OP - they all look like "nice guys" or some hipster dude who reads too much "r/MaleFashionAdvice"

Some looks girls like include:

"High-powered businessman"

"Badboy"

2. Related to above - dress like a somebody

All the pics from OP look like some dude whose name you will forget after 5 minutes.

Don't "peacock" a la Mystery/Style but don't just be some guy wearing e.g. [generic dress shirt] + [chino pants] + [generic shoes]

Like this guy (which is most guys you see out on any given night)

3. More body = less style needed

Guy with t-shirt

Guy with t-shirt (other shit too but just focus on the shirt)

(Same for being good-looking - more looks = less style needed)

4. Wear slim/skinny fit - unless you're fat (then lose weight)

^ Reminds me of any "PUA" running around spam approaching daygame thinking "game" will solve all his problems

5. Wear the right colors - preferably matching and "masculine" (not baby blue, pink, etc.)

Example of what I mean by matching - e.g. if you have "higher contrast" (something like light-medium skin and dark hair) wear high contrast outfits. But "masculine" colors are probably more important (as long as they don't look shit on you)

6. Accessorize (including tattoos)

Welcome to 2019. Girls (especially in the West, or at least the US) are pretty much brainwashed to like badboys, tattoos, (and to a lesser extent rings, necklaces, piercings, and so on)

For more detail and ideas (pics) on what to wear:

Men’s Style Guide: For Guys Who Want to Get Laid