Hugh Hefner dead at 91

911

Peacock
Gold Member
This whole narrative of Black Americans as being oppressed in the 1950s, and then they became liberated , thanks to the Civil Rights movement, crooked politicians like LBJ and globalist cultural change agents like Hefner, is mostly a blue pill myth.

Black families and communities were far stronger back in the 50s, when out of wedlock rates were actually lower in the black community than among whites. Low crime rates, high income growth rates, well-paying blue-collar jobs, strong families, no drugs, no gangs. There were no ghettos, and no ghetto culture.

The 1960s "reformers" destroyed all this, if you care to dig below the veneer of the admittedly positive desegragation policies, which hid a much darker agenda that targeted the black male with predatory social policies, subversive ghetto culture pushed by social engineers (Blacksploitation, porn, ghetto music, drug culture). They went after the baby, while highlighting the bathwater, and Hef was an integral part of that social engineering plan.

Harlem in the 1940s
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Harlem in the 1970s
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fact sheet about Gloria Steinem’s operations against the various social and political movements in America, particularly her role in creating a hateful and virulent strain of Black feminism that attacks Black men while partnering with the white establishment.

http://knowledgeisking.ning.com/forum/topics/happydays
 

Comte De St. Germain

Crow
Gold Member
General Stalin said:
Looks like race threads are RVF's version of "6 degrees of kevin bacon." Can literally turn any topic into a race discussion.

Generally a result of our dearest politics posters getting in over their heads and out of their element.

Easy to trace from where they have accumulated the majority of their reps from(other than meet ups as that's carte blanche could be about anything they discussed in person such as staring at the sun to improve your eyesight, the earth bring flat, or about succubi) and not from where they supposedly posted as well.

Want to know if someone has game? Check their reps. As the forum has evolved further than game due to what some consider more pressing topics of discussion.
 
I think Hugh Hefner is an amazing story. A story about a regular schmuck that gets divorced and decides to live a lifestyle only others can dream about.

You may or may not like what he did for a living, but it can't be denied that the guy is an inspiration. Imagine if a guy from this forum got divorce raped and went on to live a life of banging 10/10 models and throwing parties for the world's biggest celebrities, he would be a legend.

RIP Hef, you showed what's possible.
 

Icarus

Ostrich
Maybe I am an inveterate cynic, but isn't most of human history a recurrence of the same old story: a charismatic man seducing young women to sate his lust, and seducing young men to convince them to take risks he does not want to bear?

In a more distant past, the king would convince young men to fight for his interests. If they died, their problem. If they survived, they could be rewarded with some of the land they had conquered, or some of the loot they had amassed.

Today, an established venture capitalist convinces starry-eyed young men to take insane risks at infantile and infantilizing startups. If they fail, their problem. If they succeed, they take a small slice of the pie.

In essence, Hefner found a way to charge a tax on millions of men who willingly subsidized his harem. They were willing cucks. They allowed themselves to be seduced. They were adults, weren't they? Weren't they responsible for their actions?

In an ideal world, one could protect everyone from human predators like Hefner. Yet, far too many people offer themselves as prey. Some get burned once and finally open their eyes. They pass one of life's great tests. Others remain blind their whole lives. They are happy as prey. They come to this world merely to feed superior animals. How can one help someone who does not want to be helped?
 

Aurini

Ostrich
puckerman said:
One thing that has not been brought up was that Hef was a pioneer in breaking down racial barriers. He brought African Americans on his show when hardly anybody else would. He featured a lot of Jazz artists and others. His party invites didn't know racial prejudice:

Hef and Louis Armstrong:

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Hef and Sammy Davis, Jr.:

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Hef and Ella Fitzgerald:

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Didn't Frank Sinatra do it first? Call me a cynic, but I'm not a fan of those who pick up a cause as soon as it becomes trendy. Hell, maybe Sinatra was just being trendy too.

You may or may not like what he did for a living, but it can't be denied that the guy is an inspiration. Imagine if a guy from this forum got divorce raped and went on to live a life of banging 10/10 models and throwing parties for the world's biggest celebrities, he would be a legend.

I think the point many of us are making is that this is the WRONG way to deal with something. Let's say you're a maverick film Producer like George Lucas, trying to make this crazy, new Star Wars thing, and a business partner screws you over and ruins the film. If that had happened, and Lucas then went on to embrace cynical materialism - releasing nothing but the then-equivalent of Transformers - I'd call that a waste.

A life spent pursuing worldly things, rather than things of the spirit, will leave you empty inside. What good is an empire, if there's no one there for you to share it with? If it's not an empire run for the good of others, but one which steals from all of those who come into contact with it? That's a lonely and sad end - it's the end which the road of vengeance leads to.
 

Sherman

Ostrich
Aurini said:
Didn't Frank Sinatra do it first? Call me a cynic, but I'm not a fan of those who pick up a cause as soon as it becomes trendy. Hell, maybe Sinatra was just being trendy too.

Supporting civil rights in the 1950s was before it was trendy.


Hugh Hefner’s Secret History as a Civil Rights Campaigner

http://people.com/celebrity/hugh-hefner-legacy-human-rights-activist/

"EBONY Magazine remembers Hugh Hefner and what he contributed to Civil Rights"

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threa...-what-he-contributed-to-civil-rights.1271398/
 
Aurini said:
puckerman said:
One thing that has not been brought up was that Hef was a pioneer in breaking down racial barriers. He brought African Americans on his show when hardly anybody else would. He featured a lot of Jazz artists and others. His party invites didn't know racial prejudice:

Hef and Louis Armstrong:

Hugh-Hefner-and-Louis-Armstrong-courtesy-PEI1.jpg


Hef and Sammy Davis, Jr.:

Hef-14-8x6.png


Hef and Ella Fitzgerald:

Hugh-Hefner-and-Ella-Fitzgerald.jpg

Didn't Frank Sinatra do it first? Call me a cynic, but I'm not a fan of those who pick up a cause as soon as it becomes trendy. Hell, maybe Sinatra was just being trendy too.

You may or may not like what he did for a living, but it can't be denied that the guy is an inspiration. Imagine if a guy from this forum got divorce raped and went on to live a life of banging 10/10 models and throwing parties for the world's biggest celebrities, he would be a legend.

I think the point many of us are making is that this is the WRONG way to deal with something. Let's say you're a maverick film Producer like George Lucas, trying to make this crazy, new Star Wars thing, and a business partner screws you over and ruins the film. If that had happened, and Lucas then went on to embrace cynical materialism - releasing nothing but the then-equivalent of Transformers - I'd call that a waste.

A life spent pursuing worldly things, rather than things of the spirit, will leave you empty inside. What good is an empire, if there's no one there for you to share it with? If it's not an empire run for the good of others, but one which steals from all of those who come into contact with it? That's a lonely and sad end - it's the end which the road of vengeance leads to.

He has children to pass his legacy down to.

Maybe he found his spiritual side while on the inside of some of the prettiest girls on the planet. Not everyone aspires to be the Dalai Lama.

I find the moral outrages on here about Hef to be pretty funny.
 

AneroidOcean

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Mercenary said:
I call bullshit on the race angle as well.

75% to 90% of bunny girls at his house parties, casinos, other venues and the nude models in playboy magazine were white girls. This high quota of white females was held from the 1950s all the way until the late 1990s/early 2000s. A black, asian or other ethnic nude model in playboy magazine was an occasional treat...you might have 1 or 2 non white centrefolds per year at most. Also, look at the thousands of photos of Hef surrounded by bunnies over the span of 50 years...how many non white girls can you find ?

Hef knew where the main source of his never ending cash cow was.
Thirsty white men with disposable income were the demographic group he had to target the most to keep the cash rolling in.

Equality my ass.

I call bullshit on your bullshit. Whites are by far the racial majority in this country and it's been an even higher percentage in the past. Most people fantasize about fucking others that look like them primarily. Hence, mostly white women in the magazine (not to mention Hef's self-admitted preference for blonde white women).

If you choose to market mostly to the people who buy your product you're a racist?

:laugh:
 

justforfun19713

Pigeon
Gold Member
Comte De St. Germain said:
General Stalin said:
Looks like race threads are RVF's version of "6 degrees of kevin bacon." Can literally turn any topic into a race discussion.

Generally a result of our dearest politics posters getting in over their heads and out of their element.

Easy to trace from where they have accumulated the majority of their reps from(other than meet ups as that's carte blanche could be about anything they discussed in person such as staring at the sun to improve your eyesight, the earth bring flat, or about succubi) and not from where they supposedly posted as well.

Want to know if someone has game? Check their reps. As the forum has evolved further than game due to what some consider more pressing topics of discussion.

HAHAHA!!! Hilarious and true on oh so many levels Compte... So many levels. Who cares??!!

10 pages of people having what they believe to be a serious discussions about Heffner and almost anything other than a hot piece of *ss.

Heff being conclusively declared racist or not racist by participants on a chat board dedicated primarily to gaming girls and pick-up is about as likely as me f*ck*ng a watermelon I warmed-up in the Microwave for 30 seconds in front of the three 8’s I had in my kitchen that were Snapchatting and playing with themselves while they watched me last week.

It could happen, but do you really want to spend time thinking about it?

You’re welcome.

(Watermelon Bellini’s anyone?)
 

kosko

Peacock
Gold Member
People getting to worked over race as always. Not many Asian-American or African-American girls who going to pose nude in general in the 1970s. You would probably find 100 girls nationwide who would be down. Playboy was a business and indeed push the Blondie stereotypes even as America has been majority brown hair and brown eyes for well over 150 years. Hugh Hefner did indeed like to hire minority girls for staff and bunnies for all aspects of his company well before it was cool. Hugh understood that pussy was all link inside early and that the idea of the "niche" was real and that you were stupid to not give men who may have different tastes in women something to nibble on.

I've grown indifferent on Hef as I have learned about his weird fetishes and what not but for his work back in the day he was indeed a pioneer in race relations in America and was indeed going different directions before others did. The infamous and well written Playboy articles features many great African-American writers on the bylines.
 

Samseau

Owl
Gold Member
captain_shane said:
I think Hugh Hefner is an amazing story. A story about a regular schmuck that gets divorced and decides to live a lifestyle only others can dream about.

You may or may not like what he did for a living, but it can't be denied that the guy is an inspiration. Imagine if a guy from this forum got divorce raped and went on to live a life of banging 10/10 models and throwing parties for the world's biggest celebrities, he would be a legend.

RIP Hef, you showed what's possible.

So do you admire RawMeo and his alphabay adventures? Stealing people's identities, selling weapons to criminals, boy what a success story!

Where do you draw the line between right and wrong? Defenders of Hef think whoring is cool, guess what most men disagree. Whoring destroys women and weakens men. It corrodes families and destroys society. Whoring sends people to hell, both on this lifetime and the next one.

Unless people start by defending whoring, there is no real defense of men like Hugh Hefner.
 

Comte De St. Germain

Crow
Gold Member
Samseau said:
captain_shane said:
I think Hugh Hefner is an amazing story. A story about a regular schmuck that gets divorced and decides to live a lifestyle only others can dream about.

You may or may not like what he did for a living, but it can't be denied that the guy is an inspiration. Imagine if a guy from this forum got divorce raped and went on to live a life of banging 10/10 models and throwing parties for the world's biggest celebrities, he would be a legend.

RIP Hef, you showed what's possible.

So do you admire RawMeo and his alphabay adventures? Stealing people's identities, selling weapons to criminals, boy what a success story!

Where do you draw the line between right and wrong? Defenders of Hef think whoring is cool, guess what most men disagree. Whoring destroys women and weakens men. It corrodes families and destroys society. Whoring sends people to hell, both on this lifetime and the next one.

Unless people start by defending whoring, there is no real defense of men like Hugh Hefner.

Most men don't disagree. Most men view Hefner as cool. This forum to my knowledge doesn't advertise to most men. Whether they are right on this one or not is up for contention. And honestly you don't speak for most men as we can see by the likes given to some very specific posts in this thread versus others.

Your statement of absolutes on what Hefner did aside.
 
Samseau said:
captain_shane said:
I think Hugh Hefner is an amazing story. A story about a regular schmuck that gets divorced and decides to live a lifestyle only others can dream about.

You may or may not like what he did for a living, but it can't be denied that the guy is an inspiration. Imagine if a guy from this forum got divorce raped and went on to live a life of banging 10/10 models and throwing parties for the world's biggest celebrities, he would be a legend.

RIP Hef, you showed what's possible.

So do you admire RawMeo and his alphabay adventures? Stealing people's identities, selling weapons to criminals, boy what a success story!

Where do you draw the line between right and wrong? Defenders of Hef think whoring is cool, guess what most men disagree. Whoring destroys women and weakens men. It corrodes families and destroys society. Whoring sends people to hell, both on this lifetime and the next one.

Unless people start by defending whoring, there is no real defense of men like Hugh Hefner.

Another moral crusader! Go ask 10 guys what they think of Hef, and 9 will say he was awesome.

Sells magazines with hot naked girls and lives a lifestyle of sex, drugs, and parties... Wow, what a terrible guy.

Your moral outrage would be better directed at other people than Hef.
 

Samseau

Owl
Gold Member
If you ask the average men if they think Hef is cool, they will say he's the man.
Ask the same man if he thinks banging whores is cool, he will say no.

The average man is confused about this, but no one ever said men were purely rational animals.

I know on this forum, whores are held in fairly high esteem, but not as high as you might think. The NoFap thread is pretty big, which is really an objection to porn more so than fapping as far as I can tell.

Regardless, one of my favorite things to do is tear down false prophets and idols, by simply telling things as they are. Hugh was a whoremonger who glorified whores. I think whores are disgusting, why don't you?
 

Comte De St. Germain

Crow
Gold Member
Samseau said:
If you ask the average men if they think Hef is cool, they will say he's the man.
Ask the same man if he thinks banging whores is cool, he will say no.

The average man is confused about this, but no one ever said men were purely rational animals.

I know on this forum, whores are held in fairly high esteem, but not as high as you might think. The NoFap thread is pretty big, which is really an objection to porn more so than fapping as far as I can tell.

Regardless, one of my favorite things to do is tear down false prophets and idols, by simply telling things as they are. Hugh was a whoremonger who glorified whores. I think whores are disgusting, why don't you?

Cobra laid out in detail why we disagree(and it's not because we like whores or pay for whores as you seem to assume). If you disagree past that then it boils down to a difference of values and opinions on the topic. I've long seen that difference. I'm not out here prolestyzing to a crowd that's mostly deaf to the values I espouse unlike you.

Again it's better to agree to disagree; you're not convincing anyone with your personal morality.
 

Space Cowboy

Woodpecker
Samseau said:
I know on this forum, whores are held in fairly high esteem, but not as high as you might think. The NoFap thread is pretty big, which is really an objection to porn more so than fapping as far as I can tell.

Self-improvement is held most high on this forum. That is something that Hef excelled at. Can those who spend hours of their free time tearing him down say the same?
 

Mercenary

Hummingbird
Comte De St. Germain said:
Generally a result of our dearest politics posters getting in over their heads and out of their element.

Easy to trace from where they have accumulated the majority of their reps from(other than meet ups as that's carte blanche could be about anything they discussed in person such as staring at the sun to improve your eyesight, the earth bring flat, or about succubi) and not from where they supposedly posted as well.

Want to know if someone has game? Check their reps. As the forum has evolved further than game due to what some consider more pressing topics of discussion.

Comte, this is the 2nd time you have attacked me personally in this thread.
You got a hard on for me or something ?
Anyhow, I'd love to meet you cause I definitely need to learn game from you Comte.

You can start by teaching me how you managed to game, get hard for and then bang a girl who weighed 280 pounds (130 kilos!) and then brag about it to the world on RVF. That's some next level shit I can only dream of. +1 for that amazing HUGE notch !

After that you can tell me all about your other amazing game techniques....oh wait you don't game anything else cause you're always too busy jacking off to porn, as you readily admit in the NoFap thread where you always talk about failing over and over again like a total loser.

The only game related thread you have ever created was about social circle game....thats for dudes who want to bang their cousins or can't approach real girls. But you're too busy masturbating to Hef's Playboy porn all the time do even do that.
 

Comte De St. Germain

Crow
Gold Member
I did not mention anyone personally and only named some random topics I found absurd unrelated to the forum. Feel free to project any perceived insults if you wish. I have more issue with certain opinions than anything else.

If you feel the need to attack me unnecessarily that's your prerogative.
 
Mercenary said:
Comte De St. Germain said:
Generally a result of our dearest politics posters getting in over their heads and out of their element.

Easy to trace from where they have accumulated the majority of their reps from(other than meet ups as that's carte blanche could be about anything they discussed in person such as staring at the sun to improve your eyesight, the earth bring flat, or about succubi) and not from where they supposedly posted as well.

Want to know if someone has game? Check their reps. As the forum has evolved further than game due to what some consider more pressing topics of discussion.

Comte, this is the 2nd time you have attacked me personally in this thread.
You got a hard on for me or something ?
Anyhow, I'd love to meet you cause I definitely need to learn game from you Comte.

You can start by teaching me how you managed to game, get hard for and then bang a girl who weighed 280 pounds (130 kilos!) and then brag about it to the world on RVF. That's some next level shit I can only dream of. +1 for that amazing HUGE notch !

After that you can tell me all about your other amazing game techniques....oh wait you don't game anything else cause you're always too busy jacking off to porn, as you readily admit in the NoFap thread where you always talk about failing over and over again like a total loser.

The only game related thread you have ever created was about social circle game....thats for dudes who want to bang their cousins or can't approach real girls. But you're too busy jacking off to Hef's Playboy porn all the time do even do that.

Social circle is where you get the hottest girls bar none. Cold approach will never get the results that a high end social circle does.
 
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