Krauser said:AC said:Krauser said:Something I’m curious about. Hef was basically engaging in disguised prostitution, paying women to have sex with him but disguising the payment behind “lifestyle” and magazine opportunities. Personally, I don’t consider this game. It’s just whoring with a polished veneer. It also seems like a classic Gamma male “in” to create a magazine like Playboy and put on such parties. It’s a higher budget version of setting up a modelling agency or porno casting couch.
I mention this because Hef never looks happy in any of his photos. He’s always got an unconvincing smile and the peculiar Gamma “pull” expression that is like a weak attempt at a smirk. I’d have thought if he was banging girls who genuinely fancy him, he’d look a lot happier. If however he knew he could only get whores by dangling cash or contracts above them it would eat him away inside for years and produce that deep unhappiness.
I haven’t looked much into his life so I might have my facts completely wrong. I’m going mostly by what I see from his photos and what I can infer from his business model. It seems to me that although he’s definitely a rabbit, he’s not a player and likely had zero game. I suspect now he’s dead there’ll gradually leak out a ton of stories that he was a fronter.
I’m very curious what your read is.
Fascinating take. I am not a specialist in game, but now that you mention it and I look back, his later shots do have a sort of staged quality. I thought his first marriage photo was very natural player-esque, but his first wife was a bit chubby, and probably an honest pull since he was broke at the time. So I figured from that he did have some form of natural game.
As you mention it, I remember reading a story about a book by one of the girls who was only allowed to move into the mansion for one night. According to her, they all went out to a club, and then at the end of the night they went to his bedroom, all the girls went topless, and girls who were willing to screw were supposed to take their bottoms off to show they were willing to bang Hef.
The girl telling the story was grossed out by Hef, but apparently Hef had set it up so the other girls would try to shame her into banging. They all kept ordering her to take her bottom off, and getting more demanding and insulting as Hef laid there but she refused. She said as that happened, Hef bored a hole through her eyes with his hateful stare as he looked up at her, without saying a word. The next day she was told she was no longer wanted there and she had to move out.
It was all very sad, from the weak girls who seemed almost to want her to bang Hef so they wouldn’t have to (and they could be less ashamed of the fact they were banging him too), to Hef himself trying to get girls to make other girls who were grossed out by him to bang him.
As you compare that to a player getting a girl to fall for him, to the point she doesn’t want to lose him because she loves him, it is a completely different dynamic.
It is hilarious how astute the online specialists who rise to the top of their fields end up being. How many people looked at those photos and missed that dynamic entirely.
Holy shit, that story is gross. It’s only one step above the Rochdale rape gangs! Haha, it is so so squalid. And how many men think he was “living the dream”!