Human cell lines in the vaccines


A separate thread which will accumulate all the information about the use fetal cells would be extremely useful.

For me personally, this fact alone is enough to put me off taking ANY vaccine whatsoever because by doing so one encourages the pharmaceutical industry to lobby for more abortion. We would become complicit in the murder of innocent infants.

But the most troubling part is that not only are the babies delivered alive, horrifically, their organs are often removed when they are still alive. [2] This is how they got the HEK293 kidney cells used in the manufacture of the vaccines and why Pfizer wanted it to remain a secret. It’s labeled 293 because that’s how many experimental attempts the researchers needed to get a working cell line.

HEK stands for human embryonic kidney. To harvest a viable embryonic kidney for this purpose, sufficiently healthy children old enough to have adequately-developed kidneys must be removed from the womb, alive, typically by cesarean section, and have their kidneys cut out. This must take place without anesthesia for the child, which would lessen the viability of the organs. Instead of being held, rocked, and comforted in the time intervening between their birth and their death, they have organs cut out of them alive. [4]

For the record: Officially, the media and the manufacturers claim that fetal cells are NOT found in the Covid vaccines but they will admit that they are used in the production of these products. So it makes no difference.

Let's start with this video which gives a clear and concise explanation of what they use and why they need human cells for both technical and economic reasons.

Deisher explains:

All of these things are in the final product including contaminants from the cell lines that are used to manufacture the vaccines, and you asked, you know, why the contaminants can’t be removed. So, the virus in the vaccine is just a long chain of RNA or DNA, but it’s such a long chain that it’s not economical to make it in a test tube and so the companies mimic nature’s way of growing viruses and they infect cells and the virus grows in the cells, and then they lyse the cell and they try to purify away the virus and leave behind the cells impurities and DNA fragments. But, for anyone who’s taken chemistry, your yield is inversely related to your purity and, so, if they purified out the contaminants from the cell lines, the yield would be so low that they wouldn’t make any money, or no one would pay a thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars for a vaccine and, so, because of that, contaminants from the cell lines, and in that case fetal cell lines, are in the final product. And, they are actually at very high levels …[10]

These are the approved US vaccines containing aborted fetal cells: [1]

· Adenovirus·· Barr Labs., Inc· WI-38
· Chickenpox· Varivax· Merck & Co.· MRC-5 & WI-38
· Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Polio, HIB· Pentacel· Sanofi Pasteur· MRC-5
· Hepatitis A· Havrix· GlaxoSmithKline· MRC-5
· Hepatitis A· Vaqta· Merck & Co.· MRC-5
· Hepatitis A-B· Twinrix· GlaxoSmithKline· MRC-5
· Measles, Mumps, Rubella· MMR II· Merck & Co.· WI-38
· Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Chickenpox· ProQuad· Merck & Co.· MRC-5 & WI-38
· Rabies· Imovax· Sanofi Pasteur· MRC-5
· Shingles· Zostavax· Merck & Co.· MRC-5

Additional cell lines from surgically aborted fetuses, that are not used in vaccines, include “… WI-1, WI-3, WI-11, WI-16, WI-18, WI-19, WI-23, WI-24, WI-25, WI-26, WI-27, WI-44, MRC-9, IMR-90, and R-17 (obtained from lung); WI-2, WI-12 and WI-20, (skin and muscle); WI-5 (muscle); WI-8 and WI-14, and WS1 (skin); WI-4, WI-9, WI-10, WI-13 and WI-15 (kidney); WI-6, WI-21 and WI-22 (heart); WI-7 (thymus and thyroids), WI-17 (liver); FHs74Int (small intestine) …

Aborted fetal cells are also found in some drugs.[3]


[1] “Vaccines, Abortion & Fetal Tissue”. Ohio Right To Life, 2021, There are US approved alternatives to some of these vaccines which are listed here, as well.

[2] Fetal tissue and body parts from aborted babies are used for many types of research, not just vaccines. Below is an excerpt from Fetal Body Parts Used for Research: Is it ethical to experiment on aborted humans? ( by investigative journalist Ian Wishart, about how fetal parts are acquired from abortions and evidence that some fetuses are dissected when still alive. The scientists using these body parts believe that it is for the greater good. Yet, the author posits: “It is a modern, relativistic idea that you can sacrifice the few for the good of the many. Indeed, this was one of the justifications Hitler used in whipping up hatred against Jewish, Gypsy and gay minorities. In 21st century form, the argument is more subtle: that if a cure for crippling diseases can be found by harvesting fetal organs from abortions, or growing human embryos in the laboratory for stem cell harvesting, then the deaths of those infants are justifiable because of the perceived greater good to the community at large. … “At the Nuremberg War Crimes trials, evidence was presented of horrific scientific experiments being performed on captives in the concentration camps. The Nazi medics on trial attempted to justify it by saying the test subjects were due to die anyway and the knowledge gained would benefit the rest of humanity. [Scientists working with fetal cells from aborted babies claim that the babies were going to be aborted anyway because of maternal choice. RS 613] “Human DNA in Vaccines – Origins and Safety”. Rodefshalom613.Org, 2021,

[3] “U.S. Aborted Fetal Products. Cogforlife.Org, 2021,

[4] Catholic Conscience and the COVID-19 Vaccine
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If you were a pregnant mother and smiling doctors came to you with murder on their minds

If YOU were a pregnant mother, what would you say if a doctor told you: “We understand you don’t want your baby. Fine. We want to plan your abortion and schedule it. We’ll be there. You can contribute to medical research by allowing us to remove your infant from your womb, fully intact, and alive. Then we will take your infant’s kidneys, to obtain tissue for research on vaccines. By removing your baby’s kidneys, we will be killing him or her. He or she will be on the table, breathing, heart beating, and we will kill him or her.”

What would you say?


This is another, “it’s worse than I thought” thread.

Taking the organs out of live victims reminds me of the attempts of the priests to manage the declines of the Mayan Kingdom and Carthage. Alpha predators consume the organs for that’s where the best nutrients are. It wouldn’t surprise me if they burnt the entrails to determine the gods’ further instructions for Clown World.