I am Beginning to Believe We Are In the End Times

[The Beast1]

Perhaps AI will be the anti-Christ?

This is what I think. AI will give us technology beyond our wildest dreams that will allow us to,"live lives of paradise and leasure here on this planet for eternity. But you have to take this brain implant and worship me."

AI will probably be satanic.
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[Roosh]

Every Christian generation thinks they are at the end. If you look at early Church history, they thought Christ was coming back soon. I think Christ was vague on purpose so that every generation would be focused on repentance, because if you don't believe that the end is soon coming, what's the rush? I will live a long time, and I can repent later. But when you believe the world may soon end, that could motivate you. Also, I noticed that eschatology sometimes gets people's foot in the door of the Church. It's a fascinating topic (though easy to go overboard with).

The Orthodox view of Revelations is that there are many "types" of the end, and "types" of Antichrist. That said, we are certainly in a type of end. If it's the real end only God knows, but I trust Father Seraphim Rose on this topic, and he said, back in the early 80s, that we are close.

 

[No-Designation Man]

It is true that we do not serve God with a date in mind:

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."
- Mark 13:32

"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect."
- Matthew 24:24

However:

"Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
- Matthew 24:3

What can be gathered from this, is that there would be a series of events that would make a certain period of time unique and of special significance to Christians awaiting the return of the Master. If there wasn't anything special to take notice of, then Jesus never would have told his followers what to look for.

Combining the prophetic signs found in Matthew, and also Daniel and Revelation, I am convinced we are in the "end times", the "end times". World events have not come close to fulfilling all the requirements, as they do now.

 

[Eusebius Erasmus]

I'm starting to notice a pattern of prophecies in revelations occurring simultaneously in various parts of the world. Let me list them.
1. Digital Currency - an unknown founder holding 25% of Bitcoin clearly already a billionaire. Hyperinflation will make this mystery founder the richest man alive.
2. Voluntary mark (vaccine)
3. Certain places around the globe instituting vaccine passes. Denying employment and basic services like grocery shopping. Extreme coercion to get it.
4. Widespread apostasy
5. Hatred of Christians because of vaccine hesitancy.
6. Chinese making chimeras and CRISPR babies.


Prophecies don't have to be 100% all over the world to be accurate but certain things are lining up in a way that scare me deeply. If you asked me a year ago I would have laughed and said no. Now it's very different.

Still no antichrist, yet.
Thoughts fellow Christians?

We have technically been in the End Times since Christ's Ascension, but I wouldn't be surprised if Christ's Second Coming is near.

That being said, I don't believe that the vaccine is the Mark; the Mark would be on the hand or forehead, and would involve worship of the Beast.

However, the vaccine is definitely a type or pre-cursor of the Mark.

Also the Antichrist has not yet arrived: according to the fathers, the Antichrist will be a human of great charisma and intelligence, who will usher in a global age of peace. He will also reign from Jerusalem, and be from the Jewish tribe of Gad.

Everyone will love him, except for the Christians. His power comes from Satan, since he will have achieved a union with the Evil One.

 

[Nacho]

I never fell for the 'end times' nonsense and hysteria. As Roosh stated above, every generation thought they were the generation to see the coming of Christ based off how bad things were. I always tell others, "if it's been 2000 years, what's another 1000 years?"

 

[MilvianForce]

Cool thread and a something to discuss!

But this is how I see it. It's not my job to predict the end of times. It could be today, tomorrow, next week, next month, next year etc.

"Like a thief in the night". The signs, some more than others, are evident. I know this is a Christian forum (duh) but look at the end of times prophesied by Islam and Hinduism. They hit the nail on the head for many of their predictions as well, makes you think does it not?

Keep your faith in God strong. Keep an active role in the lives of your loved ones and let them know you love them, respect them and appreciate them. If you keep your faith in God, abide by His words and carry out what He has asked us all to do, then there is really nothing to fear throughout this vast universe of His.

 

[Uzisuicide]

I've been hearing "end times" talk literally my entire life. The Baptist church I grew up in had an unhealthy obsession with eschatology, where we were constantly having study series on the end times, frequently viewed the "Thief in the Night" movie series (seriously, look this up if you've never seen it, it's a hoot), and we even did an enormously long study series on the book "88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Be in 1988" by Edgar C. Whisenant that took up most of our Sunday evening services for most of that year. I sincerely believe that this constant state of fear that we lived in caused untold psychological problems with many in the church, especially those of us who were children and constantly being subjected to this fearmongering.

Constant worrying about the "end times" is problematic, and can cause serious distractions in one's spiritual life. That, of course, doesn't mean that you shouldn't live your life like the end could happen at any moment, but don't live in a constant state of fear and despair over this.


Exactly.

I was brought up in a Baptist Church too. Amazing, I remember the "A Thief in the Night." There was another called "A Distant Thunder." We watched those movies at Church either Sunday or Wednesday night service. I remember praying with my Dad that night and accepting Christ as my Savior, I was about 5 years old.

The covid vax is not the mark of the beast in my opinion but what were seeing with compelled vaccinations is certainly paving the way for the mark of the beast. I need to brush up on eschatology, it's fascinating but the different takes on it are NOT essential doctrine like a lot of the other things different denominations argue about.

 

[NickK]

As Roosh stated above, every generation thought they were the generation to see the coming of Christ based off how bad things were.

True.

But there is a finite limit to technology.
Merging with AI is where the human personhood ends and that's the point of no return.

 

[Salocin]

How many abortions are happening in the world? And then they're harvested for various purposes including vaccines that we all pump our own children with.

Sodomy is mainstream. You're cancelled if you dare say it is sin.

The churches are infiltrated globally.

Worldwide unrepentant sin such has not been seen since the times of Noah.

Tyranny worldwide has begun to rear it's ugly head, all following the same script.

The last 120 years or so have been building to this point. Bible prophecy is being fulfilled.

Are we in the end times? I believe so. How close are we until Jesus returns? Obviously I do not know, but I believe it is possiby within the next 10 years. I feel we are much closer to the 7 year Great Tribulation than most believe.

The next year should be telling. Does this insanity continue to accelerate? Do we see famines, pestilence, persecution increase, and wars?

Or not? We shall see.

 

[Eusebius Erasmus]

How many abortions are happening in the world? And then they're harvested for various purposes including vaccines that we all pump our own children with.

Sodomy is mainstream. You're cancelled if you dare say it is sin.

The churches are infiltrated globally.

Worldwide unrepentant sin such has not been seen since the times of Noah.

Tyranny worldwide has begun to rear it's ugly head, all following the same script.

The last 120 years or so have been building to this point. Bible prophecy is being fulfilled.

Are we in the end times? I believe so. How close are we until Jesus returns? Obviously I do not know, but I believe it is possiby within the next 10 years. I feel we are much closer to the 7 year Great Tribulation than most believe.

The next year should be telling. Does this insanity continue to accelerate? Do we see famines, pestilence, persecution increase, and wars?

Or not? We shall see.

There are a few things that have to happen before Christ returns. For example, Elijah and Enoch return to Earth to prophecy against the Antichrist. That hasn’t happened yet.

 

[jollycynic]

The biggest thing that makes me think we're in the terminal approach is that I can no longer envision any path back from the abyss through human works alone. The gears of the world have been set in motion to grind us all to dust. How does the faith grow in a world where it (while de jure still legal) has been driven out of every institution you can think of, including some of the churches themselves?

I mean are we truly waiting for a Sodom writ large here, where not one believer can be found in the world? How far off is that day even?

 

[Eusebius Erasmus]

The biggest thing that makes me think we're in the terminal approach is that I can no longer envision any path back from the abyss through human works alone. The gears of the world have been set in motion to grind us all to dust. How does the faith grow in a world where it (while de jure still legal) has been driven out of every institution you can think of, including some of the churches themselves?

I mean are we truly waiting for a Sodom writ large here, where not one believer can be found in the world? How far off is that day even?

We have been through such periods before in history. Just read the Old Testament to see how often the Israelites descended into complete degeneracy and evil. We are talking cannibalism, child sacrifice, homosexuality, incest, bestiality, etc., much of it influenced by the surrounding Canaanite culture.

Killing the Canaanites: A Response to the New Atheism’s “Divine Genocide” Claims | Christian Research Institute

www.equip.org

In more recent times, think about the depravity of South American indigenous culture in this context.

 

[Elipe]

Per the "hand and forehead" thing, I've heard an interesting take from some RVFers that this could be symbolic of having your actions and thoughts in concordance with the Beast system. With how symbolic Revelation can get sometimes, that is not outside the question that the Mark isn't a literal Mark that gets put on your hand or forehead.

However, the talk about the end times being something unique and never done before also suggests that there will be a literal Mark. Our society isn't the first society to have ever demanded that people's actions and thoughts synchronize with the ruler's. The one thing that is not a constant throughout the various "ends" predicted throughout the millennia is technology. That is the only variable here, everything else is a constant. And we know they are pushing for technology to get to the point of literally tracking your thoughts and actions. If they could, they would get people chipped.

And that's another thing about Biblical prophecies: they tend to have a physical and spiritual/symbolic fulfillment. Usually, the spiritual/symbolic fulfillment comes first, then the physical later. This is a pattern in the Bible: when Adam and Eve ate the fruit, they did not immediately drop die as God's words would have implied they would, but they did immediately spiritually die. Their bodies would die later. Abraham became the father of many nations in both a physical and spiritual sense. Physically, he fathered many of the Semitic nations we know today. Spiritually, he is the father of the righteous. Even Jesus Christ came not as the conqueror-king that the Jews thought He would, but first as a spiritual Savior. The physical fulfillment of Jesus Christ as the conqueror-king Messiah is yet to come. And likewise, we are spiritually "born-again" but not physically - not until the Resurrection, anyway, when we will be raised with new, uncorrupted, unfallen bodies.

So I think the way it will play out will be a combination of the physical and metaphorical understanding of the Mark. The Mark is as much a physical thing as it is a mean of enforcing that your thoughts and actions are in concordance with the Beast.

 

[Mikeyd03]

I have faith that things are going to get better....digital crypto currencies have the capability of freeing humanity from the Central banking system....and allowing people to save their money rather than watch it be devalued.

Strong money is a key metric for the health of civilization. The same thing happened with the Roman empire.....their money devalued, and they decayed.

Trying to look at things in an optimistic way.

 

[Elipe]

Strong money is a key metric for the health of civilization. The same thing happened with the Roman empire.....their money devalued, and they decayed.

I think you may be putting the cart before the horse. Strong money doesn't make a healthy civilization, but rather, a healthy civilization makes strong money. "Good men make good times," as the famous meme goes. Money gets devalued because of things like inflation, usury, and other manipulations of money. Those things are sign of lack of self-control and the transformation of greed from a vice into a virtue.

Strong money means we're not just handing out money to idiots that can't be trusted with it. It means money is used as a tool to reward resourcefulness and productivity. When good men build good times, what we mean is that they intentionally balance the money supply so that it is limited and finite, so that people are incentivized to be wiser and shrewder about how they spend their money. This slows inflation, and assets become more valuable over time because asset appreciation outpaces inflation. This also teaches people more discipline and self-control, which has other benefits that lead to healthier, higher-trust societies.

Easy money means fewer consequences for bad behavior and less reason to think about where you're putting your money. But it always starts with greed, with the desire to remove consequences from bad behaviors. And it's also much more politically popular to be the guy printing dollar bills and throwing them around on the streets rather than the guy scolding people for running onto the streets to grab the dollars flying around. The scolder is right, but people will hate him because they want easy money. It takes a society of good men to appreciate the scolder.

 

[Salocin]

I have faith that things are going to get better....digital crypto currencies have the capability of freeing humanity from the Central banking system....and allowing people to save their money rather than watch it be devalued.

Strong money is a key metric for the health of civilization. The same thing happened with the Roman empire.....their money devalued, and they decayed.

Trying to look at things in an optimistic way.

You can't get much more optimistic than Jesus Christ returning in all his glory.

You're talking about it getting better by aquiring mammon. I don't really have a response for that other than I do not believe that will be a successful strategy.

God bless.

 

[The Beast1]

Per the "hand and forehead" thing, I've heard an interesting take from some RVFers that this could be symbolic of having your actions and thoughts in concordance with the Beast system. With how symbolic Revelation can get sometimes, that is not outside the question that the Mark isn't a literal Mark that gets put on your hand or forehead.

However, the talk about the end times being something unique and never done before also suggests that there will be a literal Mark. Our society isn't the first society to have ever demanded that people's actions and thoughts synchronize with the ruler's. The one thing that is not a constant throughout the various "ends" predicted throughout the millennia is technology. That is the only variable here, everything else is a constant. And we know they are pushing for technology to get to the point of literally tracking your thoughts and actions. If they could, they would get people chipped.

And that's another thing about Biblical prophecies: they tend to have a physical and spiritual/symbolic fulfillment. Usually, the spiritual/symbolic fulfillment comes first, then the physical later. This is a pattern in the Bible: when Adam and Eve ate the fruit, they did not immediately drop die as God's words would have implied they would, but they did immediately spiritually die. Their bodies would die later. Abraham became the father of many nations in both a physical and spiritual sense. Physically, he fathered many of the Semitic nations we know today. Spiritually, he is the father of the righteous. Even Jesus Christ came not as the conqueror-king that the Jews thought He would, but first as a spiritual Savior. The physical fulfillment of Jesus Christ as the conqueror-king Messiah is yet to come. And likewise, we are spiritually "born-again" but not physically - not until the Resurrection, anyway, when we will be raised with new, uncorrupted, unfallen bodies.

So I think the way it will play out will be a combination of the physical and metaphorical understanding of the Mark. The Mark is as much a physical thing as it is a mean of enforcing that your thoughts and actions are in concordance with the Beast.

I read somewhere that the hand can make reference to the arm. But also if you think about it, the hands mark of the beast could be a vaccine pass and the forehead could simply be facial recognition identifying someone as vaxxed. Go a step further augmented reality would reveal these marks.

OR
It could be an actual mark using, I shit you not, a luciferase injection that glows.

Either way, we're close. Also worth noting I forgot to include a realized State of Israel in my original post.

 

[brotherjimbob]

"Beginning to believe..."))

What made you think that?))

 

[GermanicBroccoli]

A certain fear of the end times has pedagogical effects, but 24/7 being on the hunt for prophecies and signs makes man useless. I can imagine, that there was a hysteria about the end times when the Byzantine Empire was still to rescue, but many people just said "what does it matter anyway..."

Today you see widespread end times apathy.

I have two things to add. The spirit of the antichrist is in the world, but that is not breaking news, that spirit was around to the Apostles' times.

1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

And always take comfort and guidance in this: For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. 2 Timothy 1:7

 

[kel]

I wish I could be so optimistic as to believe this were the end times.

In reality things are just going to get faker and gayer and dirtier and more dehumanizing. Prepare for that reality, not some fantasy that the credits will roll before things get even uglier. You will not be spared from the struggle to come.