"I Have Coronavirus Symptoms" thread

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Woodpecker
Tail Gunner said:
Dr. Howard said:
I promised to follow up on heart/chest issues I had been having after being originally sick in March. Saw cardiologist today, he said that the infection may have done mild damage to my heart and that it is 'unfit' after so much bed rest, and lockdown inactivity. He figures it will heal on its own with time and exercise. I was able to handle the workload of a stress test with no problems, but the recovery time for my heart to return to a normal beating cycle is very long, which is where the problem is.
Dr. Howard, I am glad that you are better. There is breaking news today about COVID-19 causing blood clots. People are dying from these blood clots. It also explains all the heart attacks and the actor who lost his leg from poor circulation (who is also mentioned in this article). You should let your doctor know, so that he can take precautions.

Early data from China on a sample of 183 patients showed more than 70 percent of patients who died of covid-19 had small clots develop throughout their bloodstream. Although acute respiratory distress syndrome still appears to be the leading cause of death in covid-19 patients, blood complications are not far behind, said Behnood Bikdeli, a fourth-year fellow at Columbia University Irving Medical Center, who helped anchor a paper about the blood clots in the Journal of The American College of Cardiology. “My guess is it’s one of the top three causes of demise and deterioration in covid-19 patients,” he said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/22/coronavirus-blood-clots/
An italian doctor said the same thing.

Spotlight on inflammation and blood clots in COVID-19 - complications of key concern

https://www.medicine.com/health/spo...lood-clots-covid-19-complications-key-concern

Giannini links the inflammation observed in COVID-19 patients, with the development of blood clots (thrombi) and potentially lethal cardiac or heart problems.

Giannini is not alone in his observations. Two separate groups of researchers from China have reported the results of their studies and they also suggest that inflammation plays a role in the development of heart injury in COVID-19 patients, which was strongly linked to a fatal outcome.

here has been some reluctance to use anti-inflammatory medications, including existing corticosteroids, because of concerns they may delay virus elimination and increase the risk of secondary infections. However, some anti-inflammatory agents are under investigation, including newer ones. Novel agents with anti-inflammatory properties that are being investigated for the treatment of COVID-19 include:

Baricitinib (Olumiant): This drug is a janus kinase (JAK) inhibitor, which is already used in the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis. This Eli Lilly drug was identified as a potential treatment for COVID-19 using BenevolentAI artificial intelligence platform.

Inhaled beta-interferon: An inhaled formulation of beta-interferon, assigned the code name SNG001, is also being investigated after showing promise in patients with asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) who also had lung infections, such as the flu.

Opaganib: Redhill’s experimental drug opaganib, a selective inhibitor of sphingosine kinase-2, has shown promise in the first two COVID-19 patients to receive the drug.

Ruxolitinib (Jakafi): Novartis’ ruxolitinib is another JAK inhibitor under investigation. It is already approved for the treatment of acute graft versus host disease (GVHD), myelofibrosis and polycythemia vera.

Tocilizumab (Actemra): Roche’s anti-interleukin-6 (IL-6) receptor therapeutic, tocilizumab, is another agent of interest. It is already approved for the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis and other conditions, including severe or life-threatening cytokine release syndrome following chimeric antigen receptor T cell treatment.
 
Dr. Howard said:
I promised to follow up on heart/chest issues I had been having after being originally sick in March. Saw cardiologist today, he said that the infection may have done mild damage to my heart and that it is 'unfit' after so much bed rest, and lockdown inactivity. He figures it will heal on its own with time and exercise. I was able to handle the workload of a stress test with no problems, but the recovery time for my heart to return to a normal beating cycle is very long, which is where the problem is.
There were some studies published with regard to wearing masks and having heart issues - the connections are not good. No idea whether you were wearing some, but it's not good.


I recommend to listen to Dr. Wallach's view on it - also a solid good high-dosage multivatimin regimen.

Dr. Wallach has other interviews out there - you can watch entire talks of his online - highly recommended - you may be able to reverse all your heart issues following his advice.
 

scorpion

Ostrich
Gold Member
So a few days ago I began to experience a little fatigue. At first I thought it was just my body telling me that it needed a week off from the weights (Yes, I'm still lifting in the age of corona - invest in a home gym, fellas), but it soon became apparent this was something else. Within 48 hours I was experiencing extreme fatigue, fever, elevated heart rate and body aches. At that point I began to megadose vitamin C powder, taking a tablespoon mixed with water every few hours. My symptoms began to recede within hours. I continued the large doses of vitamin C throughout the day and night, and it was obvious that my body was utilizing it to fight something off because I was not getting any watery stool/diarrhea. After 24 hours of the vitamin C megadose protocol, my fever is completely gone and my level of fatigue and body aches have been reduced substantially. I wouldn't say I'm at 100%, but I feel basically within the range of normal, if a bit on the tired/crummy side. I had my first watery stool this morning, so I will start to taper off the amount of vitamin C I'm taking.

I'm not sure if it was COVID-19 or not. I had no cough or sore throat, but apparently some people don't get those. Fatigue and body aches are very common initial symptoms, however. So it very well might have been the virus. I doubt I'll even bother getting tested.

Anyway, the reason I'm sharing this is to emphasize the effectiveness of the vitamin C megadose. It's the real deal. It's completely legit. I'm not a doctor or a scientist and I can't explain the biochemistry involved, but I've used it effectively in the past and it's come through for me again now in a big way. If you do not have a few pounds of vitamin C powder on hand at all times (and especially right now) you are doing yourself and your family a huge disservice.

The key takeaway:

GO BUY A BAG OF VITAMIN C POWDER AND START TAKING LARGE DOSES OF IT AS SOON AS YOU FEEL CORONAVIRUS SYMPTOMS

If anyone is curious, the other things I did that seemed to help my body fight off whatever it was:

1) Walking outdoors 2-3x a day for half an hour (fresh air, light exercise and sunlight)
2) Immersion in hot baths twice a day (spiking your body temp seems to weaken infections)
3) Vitamin D3, Zinc and Magnesium (I always take anyway)
4) Sunbathing for half an hour with no sunscreen (massive dose of natural D3)
 

AnonymousBosch

Crow
Gold Member
Scorpion: that pretty much matches my experience, though my course was rougher and longer, due to pre-existing respiratory issues.

I'd suggest at least maintaining the lowest levels of the Shanghai Protocols until you're sure you're back to 100%, which would be between 50-200 mgs x per kg of body weight per day, split into three doses to keep your blood oxygenation up. It's keeping the oxygen supply constant that will keep you alive long enough to develop antibodies. Note that the Western Doctors are finally waking up to blood clotting being a problem with this once again pointing to Hypoxia, since this has been linked in the last couple of years to blood clot issues like DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis).

https://ashpublications.org/blood/a...91/Hypoxia-downregulates-protein-S-expression

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3773282/

Which means:

- start vitamin C the moment you get any symptoms as reoxygenation after extended hypoxia can cause damage to the system - a 6x1g per hour megadose is best to get this process happening. Then maintain it with 3xdaily doses matching your bodyweight and severity of symptoms, spaced out as far apart as you can. From what I linked earlier, it's most easily absorbed in the L-Ascorbic Acid form, which is admittedly-bitter. I'd suggest not sweetening it, and, even if you have reflux, put up with the pain, like I did: it seems higher stomach acidity promotes better absorption.

- it's looking increasingly-important to move around every few hours, no matter how sick you are, even if you just walk around your house for 10 minutes. It's lying around for extended periods of time that encourage both blood clotting and secondary bacterial pneumonia. I was going through 3x50 minute walks up a steep hill for the last nine days of this illness. (Admittedly, Melancholic Temperaments are known for Strong Willpower and have a legendary ability to suffer pain). The more I learn about this, the more I understand how blessed I was by God with the information that kept me alive, because this should have killed me.

- A WARNING: If you haven't ever taken magnesium powder before be VERY careful and take conservative doses to begin with. It used to give me terrible palpitations, and it can increase the risk of heart attacks in certain people. I trialed it about 10 years ago for a few weeks and soon gave it up, because my heart rate eventually went to insane levels. Do some research before messing around with magnesium.

- If you have watery stools, make sure to stay hydrated. You can make a rehydration drink with water, sugar and salt. Look up a recipe online.

- Understand that Western Doctors are part of a corrupt, dying society, educated by Academia more interested in making them socialist than competent, so will figure this all out months after it would have been useful. The media won't tell you the truth and the Government doesn't remotely have your best interests at heart. We're largely on our own.
 

Dr. Howard

Peacock
Gold Member
Bury Zenek said:
Are you sure this happened because of Corona or maybe you had a bacterial infection? Did you have an echocardiography?
This will serve as a multiple reply. I had blood work, CT scan, echocardiography and a stress test. Could be bacterial or Corona, either way I was sick with respiratory symptoms mid march, never went to doctor. The stress test was pretty good and also where the Dr was emphatic about a good exercise program that gets my heart rate up enough. I've been doing short walks, but not enough to increase my heart rate and none of my more strenuous workouts like long hikes since...probably february, then a bunch of bed rest in March and earlier this month. If you look at AB's above exercise regimen, you'll see that he was actually doing real excercise, mine was casual strolling.

- Tailgunner and blood clots crowd - interesting that they are multiple small clots, they did a D-dimer test which can miss small clots, its more designed for 'real' embolisms I guess. I definitely have had episodes when its been minor pinching or numbness in classic 'clot' spots like my left arm, chest and leg.

- regarding passing information along to my Dr. - they do not give 2 shits, they acted pissed off that I was even there in the first place with anything but coronavirus symptoms. I had to argue with people and ask for tests before I would be seen in anything other than urgent care, which is essentially "go home if you dont' have coronavirus"

- Simeon - re: masks creating issues. I work from home, I've only had to wear a mask to go to the hospital/Dr's office and that is for short periods of time.
 

Emancipator

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Dr. Howard sorry to hear about that, hope it will turn out okay.
Same to you UlteriorMotive, very strange indeed, I'm hoping for nothing lasting as well.

I have finally regained my sense of smell, it's not at it's strongest and I'm dealing with persistent phantom smells (namely bananas but other smells too that come and go), everywhere I go and am, it's almost as bad on the mind as not smelling at all.

Sister is fine, her bf's cough is gone but he's still taking it easy and resting.

Also note that I started taking a lot more B vitamins, which seems to help with body pains/aches. Once I went to high dose B12s it greatly improved and relieved the aches/pains. Guessing it had to do with positive interactions in the nervous system

Still trying to find something to deal with fatigue

I've been enjoying the outdoors again, but strangely I've noticed myself tiring out of jogs very quickly (tried twice but decided that I jumped too quickly to do so, will progress slowly) and even getting winded down by several flights of stairs.

Made the mistake of going to a big box grocer, everyone is extremely on edge and personally not a fan of lining up to enter.
 

Tail Gunner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Emancipator said:
Also note that I started taking a lot more B vitamins, which seems to help with body pains/aches. Once I went to high dose B12s it greatly improved and relieved the aches/pains. Guessing it had to do with positive interactions in the nervous system

Still trying to find something to deal with fatigue
That is odd. The B12 should help with fatigue. Perhaps you need more, especially because COVID-19 has such a deleterious effect on red blood cells.

Weakness and fatigue are common symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency. They occur because your body doesn't have enough vitamin B12 to make red blood cells, which transport oxygen throughout your body. As a result, you are unable to efficiently transport oxygen to your body's cells, making you feel tired and weak.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-b12-deficiency-symptoms#section2
 
Update: by all appearances I was overtired and overstressed, and not, in fact, infected with a murder virus.

Or the murder virus came and went without so much as a sneeze from me. No way to know at this point, really.
 

Enhanced Eddie

Pelican
Gold Member
How many more cases like yours out there, all being added to these insane statistics? lol

It baffles me that the main fear thread is still going tbh. But the criticism thread is starting to leave it in the dust.
 

Emancipator

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Enhanced Eddie said:
How many more cases like yours out there, all being added to these insane statistics? lol
In my jurisdiction, only my sister's bf is counted on the official statistics.
Doctors are told to report their "suspected" to the BC CDC but they don't reveal this info publicly nor include it with their official statistics. Which would include me.
My sister saw no doctor didn't get tested, thus not included.

But my jurisdiction has been rather sensible and reasonable with this pandemic.
Tail Gunner said:
Emancipator said:
Also note that I started taking a lot more B vitamins, which seems to help with body pains/aches. Once I went to high dose B12s it greatly improved and relieved the aches/pains. Guessing it had to do with positive interactions in the nervous system

Still trying to find something to deal with fatigue
That is odd. The B12 should help with fatigue. Perhaps you need more, especially because COVID-19 has such a deleterious effect on red blood cells.

Weakness and fatigue are common symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency. They occur because your body doesn't have enough vitamin B12 to make red blood cells, which transport oxygen throughout your body. As a result, you are unable to efficiently transport oxygen to your body's cells, making you feel tired and weak.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-b12-deficiency-symptoms#section2
In addition to a Bcomplex catch all, I'm also taking 1000mg of B12 sublingual. I do notice a bit of sleepiness following this, and was thinking of either dosing at night or split the 1000mg in half spread throughout the day. My friend is telling me that it's Potassium related, but everything is sold out.

Perhaps a B12/thiamine shot is needed?

But other than that the fatigue has been on the same level before and after introduction of B12. It could be something akin to Post-Viral Fatigue so I'm scouring related forums and discussions on that front online.
 
My mother, who is a nurse, came down with severe case of tested and confirmed covid virus.

She literally could not eat for 3 days. Then she started to recover slowly, and still is. Prior to this, she was suffering from fatigue and muscle aches.

I warned her at least over a month ago to megadose Vitamin C at the first sign of symptom. And I told her to upped her Vitamin C, with a gram hourly.

Is she listening? No.....

No doubt her symptoms would not have worsen significantly had she taken Vitamin C. She's concerned with kidney stone and damage.....

At least she obtained Zinc Logonze (SP?)
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Owl
Gold Member
Cattle Rustler said:
Are there any confirmed cases on this forum? Other than one dude's girlfriend and another dude's sibling. Hope they get better.
My ex-gf's mom (65, chronic reduced lung capacity) died from Covid-19 in March, but for obvious reasons I wasn't there to see the symptoms myself.

Also, the building in which I used to live a few years ago (half of which is used as a nursing home) was heavily infected, with 12 elderly patients there dying from Covid-19 in just one week.

No, I am not a harbinger of bad luck. Why do you ask?
 

redonion

Woodpecker
Cattle Rustler said:
Are there any confirmed cases on this forum? Other than one dude's girlfriend and another dude's sibling. Hope they get better.
Can't recall if I updated the thread, but my girl recovered fine. Was never that bad. I never displayed a symptom but it's almost impossible that I did not contract it.
 

Cattle Rustler

Crow
Gold Member
Handsome Creepy Eel said:
No, I am not a harbinger of bad luck. Why do you ask?
I'm not either, to clear your curiosity. Just want to see the "symptoms" vs confirmed cases difference.

If it makes anyone feel better. Went to a weekend rave in late november/early december. Bigly crowd, sick beats. I don't do drugs. 3 days after it ended I started getting a cold + fever. Bed ridden for an entire week, slept for 20-22 hours each day. Took Mexican antibiotics. Woke up dehydrated af and couldn't breathe, only woke up to take pills and go back to sleep. After 7 days I was in bed for the most part and could go to the store. Took 3-4 weeks to actually get over it. Beer flu starts appearing around US unofficially not long after. Not sure what kind of shit I had but I've never been sick for 3 weeks much less slept 20+ hours for an entire week. EnergenC made a big difference.
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Owl
Gold Member
Developed some cold symptoms (chills with no actual fever, mild fatigue, runny nose, no sore throat or cough) overnight. It doesn't seem to be escalating any further, but of course the first thing that I heard from my family was:

"Oh no! What if it's the coronavirus?"

Um, well yes, what if...?

 

AneroidOcean

Hummingbird
Gold Member
SamuelBRoberts said:
Update: by all appearances I was overtired and overstressed, and not, in fact, infected with a murder virus.

Or the murder virus came and went without so much as a sneeze from me. No way to know at this point, really.
No way to know? There's antibody testing and of course it's not 100% accurate like most of that type of testing but saying there's no way to know is really misleading.
 
AneroidOcean said:
SamuelBRoberts said:
Update: by all appearances I was overtired and overstressed, and not, in fact, infected with a murder virus.

Or the murder virus came and went without so much as a sneeze from me. No way to know at this point, really.
No way to know? There's antibody testing and of course it's not 100% accurate like most of that type of testing but saying there's no way to know is really misleading.
No place within 500 miles of me is offering antibody testing, but I suppose yes, I could technically get on a plane to somewhere, go present myself and say "Hey, I felt like crap last week can I please be given a test" and then settle the question.
 
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