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<blockquote data-quote="david.garrett84" data-source="post: 1188221" data-attributes="member: 8949">Even if the story is fake, I think it's instructive, at least for the line of thinking it should inspire in men. My initial reservations about OP's &quot;experiences&quot; aside, this thread has been thought-provoking.The need to assert yourself can sometimes kill or hurt you much quicker than simply backing off, which normally appears to be the weaker option. The line separating beneficial masculine behavior from self-destructive, naive masculine behavior is fine, vague, fuzzy, whatever you want to call it.What we find manly and proper in our responses today can appear reckless and ill-advised tomorrow. Constant correction, recalibration and reevaluation is how we need to approach our actions, bearing in mind that we will never nail down things perfectly.There's also a risk that even as red-pilled guys from the West, used to the stupidity and dicklessness of the various SJW creeds, we forget that there are real and common dangers in societies or sub-societies that don't follow the worst of modern leftist precepts. Walk into certain parts of Chicago or go trawling through parts of Latin America and you see that the otherwise masculine behavior of striking back or standing up for yourself can land you in a whole pile of trouble very quickly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="david.garrett84, post: 1188221, member: 8949"] Even if the story is fake, I think it's instructive, at least for the line of thinking it should inspire in men. My initial reservations about OP's "experiences" aside, this thread has been thought-provoking. The need to assert yourself can sometimes kill or hurt you much quicker than simply backing off, which normally appears to be the weaker option. The line separating beneficial masculine behavior from self-destructive, naive masculine behavior is fine, vague, fuzzy, whatever you want to call it. What we find manly and proper in our responses today can appear reckless and ill-advised tomorrow. Constant correction, recalibration and reevaluation is how we need to approach our actions, bearing in mind that we will never nail down things perfectly. There's also a risk that even as red-pilled guys from the West, used to the stupidity and dicklessness of the various SJW creeds, we forget that there are real and common dangers in societies or sub-societies that don't follow the worst of modern leftist precepts. Walk into certain parts of Chicago or go trawling through parts of Latin America and you see that the otherwise masculine behavior of striking back or standing up for yourself can land you in a whole pile of trouble very quickly. [/QUOTE]

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