If Trump Loses, Do You Plan on Leaving the USA/Western World?

The more and more I think about it, I agree with the above, Dalaran. Japan tried this and languished for 30 years. It'll be bubble this bubble that, bad economic growth for a long time, culminating in a huge meltdown --- but probably not for 40 years. As much as I want to see it burn, that's probably a best case scenario for me since I finally made it, am young-ish, and could use a few years of enjoying the fruits of my labors. As much as I'd like to see our country return to what it was through revolution or secession, it is just highly unlikely and would be super tumultuous. I tried to wise up these young idiots, after the election either way I'm giving up and just doing what I gotta do.
 
Just saw on NBC News last night that they were referring to Trump's "grabbing pussy" comments as "sexual assault."

They weren't debating if it was sexual assault or not; they were declaring it without question and selling that to the general public.

I'm really not surprised but I find it very disturbing nonetheless.

Definitely +1 point to leaving if Trump loses given how private male locker room talk is consider "sexual assault" now. Jesus.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: it will be OPEN SEASON on men like us if Trump doesn't win next month. Anyone who doubts this is sleeping at the wheel.
 

Suits

 
MKDAWUSS said:
I don't know what country would take me...
Quit with this defeatism. There are plenty of countries that allow permanent immigration and citizen to the qualifying.

In Hong Kong and Taiwan, the requirements for permanent residency/citizenship are 7 years and 5 years respectively on residential visas.

No investment requirement (although it's an option). You just do your time and then submit the appropriate paperwork.

There are also plenty of options in South America, although I'm less knowledgeable on that part of the world.

Your problem is going to be the fact that you will struggle to find a country that offers as high of a standard of living as the US, even with Hillary Clinton as president. It's very unlikely that you couldn't find a country that would accept you.
 

philosophical_recovery

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I'll leave the U.S.

And drive straight to the seceding state that looks to be run by the non-cucked.

Unless it just becomes a long, slow moving quagmire, then I'll just play it by ear. Too many Americans are gonna be woke now. The miasma of another Clinton in office is going to build a stronger opposition. Who knows what that means.
 

Easy_C

Crow
philosophical_recovery said:
I'll leave the U.S.

And drive straight to the seceding state that looks to be run by the non-cucked.

Unless it just becomes a long, slow moving quagmire, then I'll just play it by ear. Too many Americans are gonna be woke now. The miasma of another Clinton in office is going to build a stronger opposition. Who knows what that means.
That's somewhat of a plan B. A good intermediary plan until I can feasibly get an international work opportunity is to locate in states like Texas, Utah, or Colorado which are a bit less socially leftist, capable of self sufficiency, and geographically isolated from potential violance that is most likely to originate from ethnic neighborhoods in major coastal cities (+Chicago/Atlanta) and spill out into surrounding areas.
 
Sirob said:
watching the US election coverage on german tv right now and its demoralising. they dont even hide their bias and its just non stop wall to wall negative pieces on our god emperor.

I need to turn off the msm and get away from this firestorm of negative biased coverage.
It's no kidding well over 3 years since I watched any MSM coverage of anything. God bless the internet.
 

Dantes

Pelican
Gold Member
This isn't directed at anyone specifically. It will be interesting to see if those who have stated they will leave the West, in the event of a Trump loss will have the courage of their convictions. Keep us posted on your relocation status if Trump loses in November.
 

Slim Shady

Ostrich
Gold Member
The scariest thing is that they are framing what Trump said as sexual assault, not bad language. This means that the rape culture witch-hunt, and the language policing, will only intensify. It will not be safe for a man to live in the USA unless he has his life very much figured out. For young, single men it will be far more dangerous that it is even now.
 

estraudi

Kingfisher
Gold Member
I wish like hell that I could bounce out of this country if Trump loses. Been planning it for 2 years (shout out to Travel section on RVF). Yet, I've caught a case and am on probation for a bit meaning I'm even stuck in my own damn county.
I also wish, with my beginner Russian proficiency, that I could bounce from my state directly into southwestern Russia and do my online business from there.
 

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I already left for other reasons, but -

For those who say guys leaving the US if Trump loses are cowards:

What would you say to your ancestors who left their home continents?
 

redpillage

Ostrich
Gold Member
I'm already gone. But I went to Europe and we're pretty fucked over here as well. Fortunately I speak fluent Spanish so S.A. is always an option. IF I can find a spot where I don't have to be worried about me or my girl being kidnapped and held ransom while they send our body parts to our relatives. For a long while I considered Chile until I started participating in the AllChile forum. Depressing place down there apparently and the women are among the ugliest you'll find in S.A. Plus most recently they are being invaded by Haitians - say no more. Mexico is too Wild West for me - not sure what's left then. Costa Rica? Dominican Republic? Panama? Columbia - I like the accent but wouldn't feel safe there. And Argentina is getting its own share of illegal immigrants I've read (not sure how the fuckers get there).

Any of you guys have any suggestions? No Asia is not an option for me.
 

redpillage

Ostrich
Gold Member
Phoenix said:
Sirob said:
watching the US election coverage on german tv right now and its demoralising. they dont even hide their bias and its just non stop wall to wall negative pieces on our god emperor.

I need to turn off the msm and get away from this firestorm of negative biased coverage.
It's no kidding well over 3 years since I watched any MSM coverage of anything. God bless the internet.
Fortunately those fucking Krauts won't be the ones voting, will they? So it really doesn't matter what the German media reports. Srew 'em. Besides, they've got their own hands full having to take care of 2 Million Muslim latent murdering rapists.
 

britchard

Pelican
Interested to hear where the guys who are planning to leave in the case of a Hillary win are thinking of heading. I'd say for at least the first year or so, you will still have more freedoms and be more right-wing than either Australia or the UK. That may change if Hillary is allowed to enact her full will on what she wants to do. Obviously those 2 countries would be the ones with the least overall change in lifestyle and language, but there are much better options. Russia perhaps? Or maybe somewhere in South America.
 

iop890

Crow
Gold Member
I doubt most RVFers have Australia or the UK in mind.

Though I too would be interested in hearing where you guys think will be the best/most stable places to relocate.
 

Jaydublin

Pelican
What types of careers would you guys have in mind abroad? At least when getting started?

I've spent 5 of the last 10 years abroad, including consulting in some of the factories that the US and Canada have sent to Mexico. Falling back on normal skills we can use in the USA doesn't fly unless you want to make 2$ an hour.

English teachers make 6-9$ an hour in any country where there is any fun to be had, though I could be wrong on this.

Obviously there are a lot of business ideas but its tough to jump ship and start a business while burning savings without some sort of backup plan.

Any other ideas for income abroad?

I don't mind sharing an old idea I had before my circumstances changed. A few years back I had a plan to sell real estate in Santiago Chile, targeting foreigners specifically. I've noticed this working in many major/2nd tier cities abroad and Chile was being shoved down foreigners throats by Simon Black, Doug Casey, and those types of people. Seemed like a pretty good idea considering lack of regulations(no license required) and my ability to speak both languages. I just kept taking juicy contracts and never went through with it. Might be something worth looking into for somebody else. I know of a couple businesses in Medellin doing exactly this.
 
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