If You Don't Smoke Pot or Have Quit It, You Are More Likely to Be a Beta Worker Bee

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Vicious

Crow
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I fully support a legalization of marijuana and I don't mind the overall debate about this....

BUT, I feel that the legalization is just such a major buzzkill. Now and then when you're at a party or social gathering there's some psuedohippie that totally kills the mood by being a fundamental pro-legalization nazi. He has all his arguments in line and he can overpower any disagreements, but it's just such a drain on the energy of the occasion to have this character around. These people tend to be as zealous as cultists. any one who has experienced THAT GUY who knows what I'm talking about?
 

Mr.GM

Pelican
Jersey said:
MiXX said:
OK, I really have to find out what the deal is with weed. When I was 15, I tried it, a few times, and it did not do shit for me except STINK UP MY SHIRT. I tried it again with a girl I was banging' when I was 20, NOTHING - a whole fucking joint, nothing.... 2 joints, nothing....3 joints NADA! I felt nothing!!!! The joints were on different occasions and cities. Even tried it again in Colombia, NADA!! I felt nothing and at that point said "Whomever invented marijuana is a genius...he got all of these idiots worldwide to think they are high, when what they are is delusional!"

The only thing I felt was a disgusting after-taste in my mouth. I was not high, I was not shitfaced or anything except pissed off my mouth tasted like ass for hours.

At this point I made a decision, I much rather experience the high of 2 girls fighting over my cock, than a mouth that tastes like ass after smoking bullshit weed.

So, what gives?

Mixx

Couldn't agree more. I think it has a lot to do with genetics and how your brain is wired. For some people, smoking pot causes their brain to release a lot of dopamine - but for me it does nothing. Because my friends keep talking about it, I've tried it about a dozen times.

I once got really stoned and basically didn't talk to anyone for 4 hours (just stared into the distance), but I would describe the feeling as nothingness and boredom - it wasn't enjoyable at all. It was roughly equivalent to being tired at the end of a long day of work, when I just didn't have the energy to care about anything - and I wished I could feel different the whole time.

But I'm also the type of person who, when really drunk, has no desire to get another drink. If someone puts it in my hand, I'll drink it - but when I'm drunk at the bar, I'll just stop drinking. It's not a willpower thing or even a conscious choice - I just lose the drive to drink after I've got a good buzz on.

I think its just genetics.

I'm one of those guys that don't feel attracted to MJ at all too.

I fully support the legalization though. But to think that this will seriously damage the Narco cartels is childish.
 

Samseau

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
MiXX said:
OK, I really have to find out what the deal is with weed. When I was 15, I tried it, a few times, and it did not do shit for me except STINK UP MY SHIRT. I tried it again with a girl I was banging' when I was 20, NOTHING - a whole fucking joint, nothing.... 2 joints, nothing....3 joints NADA! I felt nothing!!!! The joints were on different occasions and cities. Even tried it again in Colombia, NADA!! I felt nothing and at that point said "Whomever invented marijuana is a genius...he got all of these idiots worldwide to think they are high, when what they are is delusional!"

The only thing I felt was a disgusting after-taste in my mouth. I was not high, I was not shitfaced or anything except pissed off my mouth tasted like ass for hours.


At this point I made a decision, I much rather experience the high of 2 girls fighting over my cock, than a mouth that tastes like ass after smoking bullshit weed.

So, what gives?


Mixx



Weed is a psychoactive drug that produces different results in each user. Sorry, looks like you get nothing.

Too bad. The only thing better than sex... is weed and sex.


My dick stays hard for a long ass time when I'm high too... I can bang for hours without blowing a load after toking.
 

TudoBem

 
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rozayINTL said:
I think weed should be legalized, along with every other drug for the sole reason that people should have the freedom to do what they want with their lives. I don't glorify this shit though. Many of my good friends growing up started smoking weed around 12-13 years old.. it lead to a sharp decline. Fucking with harder shit, pills, etc. Even some of my friends that started older, around 15, they couldn't handle it. It will always carry the stigma of being a "drug" and although it's not as harmful as alcohol for your body, it has a completely different psychological impact.
Personally I don't fuck w/ it. Waste of money that can be better spent elsewhere.



That is the biggest load of horseshit ever. It makes me so angry when people parrot the same tired line that the devil's weed is a gateway drug.
Saying that weed is a gateway to coke or heroin is like saying that masturbation is a gateway to rape.
 

TudoBem

 
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rozayINTL said:
I think weed should be legalized, along with every other drug for the sole reason that people should have the freedom to do what they want with their lives. I don't glorify this shit though. Many of my good friends growing up started smoking weed around 12-13 years old.. it lead to a sharp decline. Fucking with harder shit, pills, etc. Even some of my friends that started older, around 15, they couldn't handle it. It will always carry the stigma of being a "drug" and although it's not as harmful as alcohol for your body, it has a completely different psychological impact.
Personally I don't fuck w/ it. Waste of money that can be better spent elsewhere.



That is dangerously close to a beta mindset and may indicate you need some work on inner game. I am not hating at all. I just think that instead of worrying about saving money, just worry about increasing your monthly disposable income.
 

xsplat

 
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Amour Fou said:
Funny, for me weed just gives me bad trips and even anexiety attacks, and people don't believe me when I say I react that way so I don't even discuss it.

I had a pothead friend of mine live in a room here on my apt, so I had my share of the thing, and I really don't like it, but that is how my organism reacts.

I'm sure there are many out there having a jolly good time, and I hope they keep it that way.
As a teen my experience mirrored yours. Eventually I decided against the stuff and in social gatherings was the only guy who didn't toke up. Loved my booze instead.

However much later in life my experience changed - no more bad trips or anxiety attacks, and not even the social anxiety that had followed upon the tokage. I didn't even feel as high. Instead of feeling more harsh, I'd feel more mellow.
 

oldnemesis

Ostrich
Tuthmosis said:
Me neither, but I like songs about weed, and girls--especially ones on the younger side--seem to smoke weed almost universally. I'm kind of surprised some times how the nerdiest prude still smokes weed. I may have to start keeping some at the house for just-in-case situations. Wouldn't want to let a little thing like that to get in the way.

Get a vaporizer. Then you can vape it right in your apartment, and it won't smell in the air, in your mouth or on your clothes. You're also not inhaling the smoke, making it easier on lungs. It is also DHV. A little expensive, but if you're not smoking on your own, it will last for a while.
 

oldnemesis

Ostrich
TudoBem said:
My definition of beta worker bee encompasses a strong majority of the population.
Alphas are born to control betas.

Leadership is not control. It is taking the risks and accepting the responsibility. If you're leading your company and it goes south, for you it will be a disaster. But everyone else will just find a new job. If your company get sued, you may be on the hook. Your employees will just shrug and move on. And so on.

If you are a young pup and don't have the startup cash or credit history to secure a loan and start a business, then you need to get a labor job preferably in construction which gets you out in the open air, and save every goddamn penny you can, and then never work for anyone else, ever again.

And then you'll have the toughest boss in the world - yourself.
 

UrbanNerd

Pelican
It's utterly incredible how some thing can be linked to being a beta or alpha. After all of my postings on this board I STILL don't know the true definitions....AND DO NOT really care.

I know the definition of banging though. :)
 

MiXX

Crow
houston said:
Mixx was smoking flavored tobacco.

In every single city, with different people who did not know each other, and years apart?

C'mon man. :dodgy:

Weed is bullshit. Wanna get high? Have a mother, 35,and daughter, 17, suck your cock at the same time (i have actually done this)...then come and talk to me about your weed.


MIxx
 

TudoBem

 
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oldnemesis said:
TudoBem said:
My definition of beta worker bee encompasses a strong majority of the population.
Alphas are born to control betas.

Leadership is not control. It is taking the risks and accepting the responsibility. If you're leading your company and it goes south, for you it will be a disaster. But everyone else will just find a new job. If your company get sued, you may be on the hook. Your employees will just shrug and move on. And so on.

If you are a young pup and don't have the startup cash or credit history to secure a loan and start a business, then you need to get a labor job preferably in construction which gets you out in the open air, and save every goddamn penny you can, and then never work for anyone else, ever again.

And then you'll have the toughest boss in the world - yourself.

I seek risk and accept it, and thrive on it. Win, lose, or draw, my life is goddamn interesting.
And I strongly disagree with your last statement. Being my own boss is the only way I am comfortable living. It's the only way I am ever motivated to reach for my full potential. Why would I bust my ass so some turd living in Miami or Monaco gets a bit richer?

Dude, don't become an institutional man.

Don't become an institutional man

 

rozayINTL

Robin
Tudobem- I was just giving my opinion, no need to start slinging beta this beta that around.

& not to sound arrogant but I never have and never will be at a lack of inner game. Inner game is my game. I look back on where I've come from and what I've been able to do so far in my time on this planet... There's no better feeling than that. And you might hate on my mindset when it comes to money but for my age, and the fact that I start truly hustling next year.. I've got more excess cash than most people 5-10 years older than me

We often like to think that being alpha with money is dropping the cash on the car, the lavish vacations, custom suits. Sorry to break it to you man but being alpha with your money is being smart with it. You don't get rich by spending big young. And 'little things' add up.

Still, no female would ever label me as frugal, haven't had any complaints there and don't foresee having any. I'm not cheap when it comes to females. Regardless I don't have anything to prove to anyone.

You invest and turn your money into more money into more money. And even more important than being smart with your money, is being confident and supporting your approach when somebody (like you in this case) busts your balls for it.

I have friends who drop more $ on weed in a year than I do on all of my 'entertainment expenses' combined


Now to the actual weed topic......

It is a gateway drug. Everybody starts with weed, then moves on to harder shit. Or do highschool and middleschool kids start out snorting coke and smoking meth straight away? Just saying man.

I don't have a problem with weed at all, in fact I think it should be legalized. But when it comes to this debate, most people put it up on a pedestal and refuse to think that there is anything negative about it.. at all. And then they take it personally when you try to play devil's advocate..............
 

velkrum

Kingfisher
i've seen weed fuck up to many of my friends lives. All of them wish they never got into it as they got older. it is an addictive drug whether people want to admit it or not.
 

TudoBem

 
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rozayINTL said:
Tudobem- I was just giving my opinion, no need to start slinging beta this beta that around.

& not to sound arrogant but I never have and never will be at a lack of inner game. Inner game is my game. I look back on where I've come from and what I've been able to do so far in my time on this planet... There's no better feeling than that. And you might hate on my mindset when it comes to money but for my age, and the fact that I start truly hustling next year.. I've got more excess cash than most people 5-10 years older than me

We often like to think that being alpha with money is dropping the cash on the car, the lavish vacations, custom suits. Sorry to break it to you man but being alpha with your money is being smart with it. You don't get rich by spending big young. And 'little things' add up.

Still, no female would ever label me as frugal, haven't had any complaints there and don't foresee having any. I'm not cheap when it comes to females. Regardless I don't have anything to prove to anyone.

You invest and turn your money into more money into more money. And even more important than being smart with your money, is being confident and supporting your approach when somebody (like you in this case) busts your balls for it.

I have friends who drop more $ on weed in a year than I do on all of my 'entertainment expenses' combined


Now to the actual weed topic......

It is a gateway drug. Everybody starts with weed, then moves on to harder shit. Or do highschool and middleschool kids start out snorting coke and smoking meth straight away? Just saying man.

I don't have a problem with weed at all, in fact I think it should be legalized. But when it comes to this debate, most people put it up on a pedestal and refuse to think that there is anything negative about it.. at all. And then they take it personally when you try to play devil's advocate..............

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http://scienceblog.com/12116/study-says-marijuana-no-gateway-drug/

Marijuana is not a “gateway” drug that predicts or eventually leads to substance abuse, suggests a 12-year University of Pittsburgh study. Moreover, the study’s findings call into question the long-held belief that has shaped prevention efforts and governmental policy for six decades and caused many a parent to panic upon discovering a bag of pot in their child’s bedroom.

The Pitt researchers tracked 214 boys beginning at ages 10-12, all of whom eventually used either legal or illegal drugs. When the boys reached age 22, they were categorized into three groups: those who used only alcohol or tobacco, those who started with alcohol and tobacco and then used marijuana (gateway sequence) and those who used marijuana prior to alcohol or tobacco (reverse sequence).

Nearly a quarter of the study population who used both legal and illegal drugs at some point – 28 boys – exhibited the reverse pattern of using marijuana prior to alcohol or tobacco, and those individuals were no more likely to develop a substance use disorder than those who followed the traditional succession of alcohol and tobacco before illegal drugs, according to the study, which appears in this month’s issue of the American Journal of Psychiatry.

“The gateway progression may be the most common pattern, but it’s certainly not the only order of drug use,” said Ralph E. Tarter, Ph.D., professor of pharmaceutical sciences at the University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy and lead author of the study. “In fact, the reverse pattern is just as accurate for predicting who might be at risk for developing a drug dependence disorder.”

In addition to determining whether the gateway hypothesis was a better predictor of substance abuse than competing theories, the investigators sought to identify characteristics that distinguished users in the gateway sequence from those who took the reverse path. Out of the 35 variables they examined, only three emerged to be differentiating factors: Reverse pattern users were more likely to have lived in poor physical neighborhood environments, had more exposure to drugs in their neighborhoods and had less parental involvement as young children. Most importantly, a general inclination for deviance from sanctioned behaviors, which can become evident early in childhood, was strongly associated with all illicit drug use, whether it came in the gateway sequence, or the reverse.

While the gateway theory posits that each type of drug is associated with certain specific risk factors that cause the use of subsequent drugs, such as cigarettes or alcohol leading to marijuana, this study’s findings indicate that environmental aspects have stronger influence on which type of substance is used. That is, if it’s easier for a teen to get his hands on marijuana than beer, then he’ll be more likely to smoke pot. This evidence supports what’s known as the common liability model, an emerging theory that states the likelihood that someone will transition to the use of illegal drugs is determined not by the preceding use of a particular drug but instead by the user’s individual tendencies and environmental circumstances.

“The emphasis on the drugs themselves, rather than other, more important factors that shape a person’s behavior, has been detrimental to drug policy and prevention programs,” Dr. Tarter said. “To become more effective in our efforts to fight drug abuse, we should devote more attention to interventions that address these issues, particularly to parenting skills that shape the child’s behavior as well as peer and neighborhood environments.”

Indeed, according to the study, interventions focusing on behavior modification may be more effective prevention tactics than current anti-drug initiatives. For example, providing guidance to parents – particularly those in high-risk neighborhoods – on how to boost their caregiving skills and foster bonding with their children, could have a measurable effect on a child’s likelihood to smoke marijuana. Also, early identification of children who exhibit antisocial tendencies could allow for interventions before drug use even begins.

Although this research has significant implications for drug abuse prevention approaches, Dr. Tarter notes that the study has some limitations. First, as only male behaviors were studied, further investigation should explore if the results apply to women as well. Also, the examination of behaviors in phases beyond alcohol and marijuana consumption in the gateway series will be necessary.
 

TudoBem

 
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velkrum said:
i've seen weed fuck up to many of my friends lives. All of them wish they never got into it as they got older. it is an addictive drug whether people want to admit it or not.

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http://www.cannabismd.net/addiction/

Addiction is generally defined as a physical or psychological dependence on a substance, especially alcohol or other drugs, with use of increasing amounts.[1] For the sake of clarification, physical addiction is covered separately from psychological dependence on this website. (See also the section titled Dependence.) Scientific research on cannabinoid compounds has not demonstrated a strong association with biochemical addiction. In their exhaustive quest for evidence of addiction, federally funded researchers have resorted to relying on questionable data, such as the withdrawal symptoms reported by children who were referred to social service and criminal justice agencies. These researchers may argue that the court-ordered testimony of troubled youths “proves” that marijuana is addictive;[2] however, such questionable data is not scientific evidence of chemical addiction. In another case, an addictions researcher reported on his experiment in which rats displayed withdrawal symptoms upon a sudden discontinuation of THC. Critics point out that the reported withdrawal effects were created with very high doses of THC, and by the introduction of a second drug, a THC-blocking agent used to trigger the withdrawal symptoms. Withdrawal symptoms are not found in rats without using a THC-blocking agent,[3] and even among troubled youths, withdrawal symptoms are relatively mild and of short duration. [4], [5]

Dopamine, a neurochemical produced in the central cortex of the brain, is thought to provide the brain’s “reward system.” Interference with dopamine production is considered a major symptom of biochemical addiction. While two studies alleged a minor link between THC and dopamine production in the brains of rats,[6] these were refuted by several subsequent studies showing that cannabis does not radically affect dopamine levels.[7], [8], [9] In assessing the importance of a possible link between cannabis use and dopamine levels, it should be noted that dopamine activity has also been detected in the brains of video game players who were paid money every time they reached a new level of the game.[10] Clearly, minor evidence of dopamine activity is not the sloe indicator of addiction. If it were, than all pleasurable activities would be defined as addictive. Moreover, the scientific evidence that cannabis use produces any amount of increased dopamine activity remains entirely inconclusive. Assessing the scientific literature on marijuana’s addictive potential for the Criminal Justice Commission of Australia, Peter Nelson reported, “… involvement with the ventromedial striatum suggests connections to dopamine circuits. However, the expected reinforcing properties usually associated with these dopamine pathways are difficult to demonstrate in the case of THC.”[11]

Cannabinoids bond to anandamide nerve receptors that are primarily concentrated in the frontal lobes of the brain,[12], [13] rather than in the central cortex where dopamine is produced. THC is mild, with effects resembling those of caffeine or chocolate rather than classic addictive drugs such as alcohol, amphetamines, cocaine, opiates, and nicotine. In fact, a 1996 report from Daniele Piomelli of the Neurosciences Institute in San Diego indicated that chocolate contains three compounds that are chemically similar to cannabinoids. Studies involving rats showed that cannabinoid chemicals found in chocolate amplify the effect of natural cannabinoids found in the brain. The article published in Nature concluded that these compounds may, “participate in the subjective feelings of eating chocolate.”[14] In the April 1999 issue of Nature Neuroscience, Piomelli and colleagues at the University of California, Irvine reported that anandamide acts as an inhibitor of dopamine neurons.[15] Far from triggering chemical addiction in the brain, THC, the natural anandamide analogue, may actually help to balance erratic dopamine levels.

The common scientific criteria for determining the addictive quality of a drug are examples of animal studies in which subjects self-administer an addictive substance. When given the choice between food and narcotics, for example, animals commonly self-administer the drug to the exclusion of all other activity, often starving themselves to death. Unlike heroin, cocaine, and other substances of abuse, there are no clinical studies showing animals self-administering cannabinoid compounds. In 1993, the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment reached this conclusion:

While marijuana produces a feeling of euphoria in humans, in general, animals will not self-administer THC in controlled studies. Also, cannabinoids generally do not lower the threshold needed to get animals to self-stimulate the brain reward system as do other drugs of abuse.[16]

Clinical studies indicate a very low potential for addiction to cannabinoid drugs. In addition, there is no real-world evidence suggesting that THC is chemically addictive.[17] Epidemiological studies show that the large majority of people who try marijuana do not continue to use it on a regular basis. Moreover, the majority of people who ever use cannabis stop using it entirely before the age of thirty. Of an estimated 65 million “experimenters,”[18] only about 0.8% of Americans use cannabis on a daily basis.[19] The fact that millions of Americans have stopped using marijuana voluntarily and without difficulty is strong epidemiological evidence that cannabis is not chemically addictive.

Despite federally funded sociological and scientific findings that marijuana produces only mild dependence in some heavy users,[20], [21] the federal government has officially classified cannabis as a Schedule I substance that has “a high potential for abuse.” Recent research determining that cannabinoids are not chemically addictive and do not have a high potential for abuse forms the basis of a petition filed with the Drug Enforcement Administration. That petition prompted the federal drug agency to enter into a legally binding review of the existing evidence by the US Department of Health and Human Services in 1997.[22] Two years later, investigative authors of the 1999 Institute of Medicine report determined that, “… marijuana was not particularly addictive.”[23] Yet cannabis is still classified as having, “no medical value and a high potential for abuse.” In 1999, Dr. Podrebarac wrote to the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy: “The recently released Institute of Medicine (IOM) study on the medical use of marijuana clearly supports rescheduling it for medical use.” The US Drug Czar’s office refused to comment on the rescheduling issue.

Cannabis authority Tod Mikuriya wrote extensively on the value of cannabis in treating addiction. Consider the following excerpt:

“In 1839, William B. O’Shaughnessy visited cannabis buyers’ centers in India and mingled with the “dissolute and depraved” to learn about the preparations of this social drug for clinical medical trials and found it to be useful in the treatment of tetanus and seizures.

In 1843, Clendinning utilized cannabis substitution for the treatment of alcoholism and opium addiction. Potter recommended full-dose Squibb cannabis extract for withdrawal from opium addiction.

In 1894, the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission Report recognized the comparative safety of cannabis in its unsurpassed ethnographic studies within different cultures with a concern that if prohibited it would cause the use of more dangerous drugs.

McMeens, citing Fronmueller in 1860, found that the use of cannabis in place of, or combined with, opiates reduced harm from increased dose, tolerance, dependence, and side effects of opiates. In 1897, cannabis was confirmed as useful in the treatment of delirium tremens and as an alternative to opium for analgesia. Dutt independently described the comparative safety of cannabis in Materia medica of the Hindus. Yeo and colleagues warned about addiction to morphine in the treatment of neuralgia and suggested cannabis as an alternative.”

The connection between dependency on drugs and mood disorders may be caused by unsuccessful attempts to self-medicate uncomfortable feelings with the “cure,” causing more harm and aggravation of the underlying condition. Moreau described cannabis as being useful in the treatment of depression in 1845. Throughout both the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, the drug was listed in medical texts and pharmaceutical catalogues for treatment of melancholia or mania.

Notwithstanding some polysubstance abusers who maladaptively combine cannabis with other psychoactives, there appears to be a significant number of persons who have learned that cannabis can totally substitute for other psychoactive drugs.

Following the therapeutic paths of Clendinning, throughout the nineteenth and twentieth century, cannabis was found useful in the treatment of opiate and sedative abuse. Brunton described the use of cannabis for the treatment of opiate dependence or as a substitute when opiates were not tolerated. Shoemaker found cannabis to be used for the cure of opium or chloral habits. Birch advocated for the use of Indian hemp in the treatment of chronic chloral and opium poisoning. Mattison, an early addcition specialist, recommended cannabis as a substitute for morphine and cautioned his fellow physicians about hypodermic use of the opiate.

Alcohol abuse, stimulant, sedative, and opioid abuse and dependence are conditions potentially treatable with cannabis substitution. All of these conditions involve management of mood and emotional reactivity. Although there have been numerous synthetic homologues developed, short-acting psychotropic drugs continue to have high potential for dependency and abuse. The quality of immediacy for mood management would appear to be inseparable from abuse potential but cannabis appears to be the exception because of lesser or milder withdrawal symptoms.

California cannabis center members and patients in my private practice independently rediscovered and confirmed that cannabis is a safer substitute for many prescribed and most nonmedical psychoactive drugs in the control of depression, anger, and anxiety. Cannabis substitution may be a gateway drug back to sobriety and dealing with the underlying psychopathalogic etiologies.[24]


Related sections: Cerebral Effects, Dependence, Tolerance, Treating Addiction

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[1] Taber’s Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary. Philadelphia: F.A. Davis Company, 1987

[2] “US Study: Marijuana is addictive.” Reuters, March 31, 1998

[3] “New Scientist special report on marijuana.” New Scientist, February 21, 1998

[4] “US Study: Marijuana is addictive.” op. cit.

[5] Institute of Medicine, Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base. Washington, DC: National Academy Press, 1999

[6] “Similar effects found in pot, harder drugs.” Maugh, Los Angeles Times, June 27, 1997

[7] Castaneda, et al., “THC does not affect striatal dopamine release: microdialysis in freely moving rats.” 1991

[8] Gifford, Gardner, and Ashby, “The effects of intravenous administration of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol on the activity of the A 10 dopamine neurons recorded in vivo in anesthetized rats.” Neuropsychopharmacology Vol. 36, No. 2, pp. 96-99, 1997

[9] “The July 1995 Gettman/High Times petition to repeal marijuana prohibition: An extensive review of relevant legal and scientific findings.” Source: www.hightimes.com/ht/new/petition/jgpetition/index.html

[10] "Researchers watch dopamine changes in brain of video game players.” Associated Press, May 21, 1998

[11] Nelson, “A Critical Review of the Research Literature Concerning Some Biological and Psychological Effects of Cannabis.” Advisory Committee on Illicit Drugs, Cannabis and the Law in Queensland, pp. 113-152, Source: Schaffer Library of Drug Policy, www.druglibrary.org

[12] Piomelli, “Functional role of high-affinity anamdamide transport, as revealed by selective inhibition.” Science, Vol. 277, No. 5329, p. 1094(4), August 22, 1997

[13] Gettman, op. cit. See also: Gettman, “Marijuana and the human brain.” High Times, March 1995

[14] “Chocolate and Cannabinol.” The Washington Post, August 26, 1996

[15] Stein, “Bits and Pieces.” Geriatric Psychiatry News, Issue 3, No. 7, June/July 1999

[16] U.S. Congress OTA, 1993

[17] Grinspoon, Bakalar, Zimmer, and Morgan, “Marijuana Addiction.” Science, Vol. 277, p. 749, August 8, 1997

[18] Annas, “Reefer Madness—The federal response to California’s medical-marijuana law.” The New England Journal of Medicine, Vol. 337, No. 6, August 7, 1997

[19] Zimmer and Morgan, Marijuana Myths: Marijuana Facts. New York: The Lindesmith Center, 1997

[20] U.S. Code Congressional and Administrative News, 1970

[21 Institute of Medicine, Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base. Washington, DC: National Academy Press, 1999

[22] “DEA refers marijuana rescheduling petition to HHS.” The Law Offices of Michael Kennedy, NY, 1998

[23] Official report backs medical use of marijuana.” Reuters, March 17, 1999

[24] Mikuriya, “Dependency and Cannabis.” Chapter 20, p. 225-227
 

rozayINTL

Robin
Tudobem

This whole thread is a fucking fail. You come out with the generalization that if you don't smoke pot you are more likely to be a beta worker bee?

Nice articles.
The best way for you to make your point is by posting a study with 24 citations? Talk about over compensating. I don't blame you, if I was in your position I'd probably do the same thing.
So marijuana is not a gateway drug a couple of totally legitimate studies say so...

For any social issue whether it be for universal health care, oil/gas drilling, tax reform.. there are countless "studies" you can find to make your point. But then again there's common sense as well.
 

soup

Owl
Gold Member
MiXX said:
houston said:
Mixx was smoking flavored tobacco.

In every single city, with different people who did not know each other, and years apart?

C'mon man. :dodgy:

Weed is bullshit. Wanna get high? Have a mother, 35,and daughter, 17, suck your cock at the same time (i have actually done this)...then come and talk to me about your weed.


MIxx

Weed can affect people very differently. The times that I've gotten too stoned or did mushrooms were probably the some of the worst in my life.

I'd much rather have tandem BJ from mom and daughter!!
 

TudoBem

 
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rozayINTL said:
Tudobem

This whole thread is a fucking fail. You come out with the generalization that if you don't smoke pot you are more likely to be a beta worker bee?

Nice articles.
The best way for you to make your point is by posting a study with 24 citations? Talk about over compensating. I don't blame you, if I was in your position I'd probably do the same thing.
So marijuana is not a gateway drug a couple of totally legitimate studies say so...

For any social issue whether it be for universal health care, oil/gas drilling, tax reform.. there are countless "studies" you can find to make your point. But then again there's common sense as well.

It is interesting how some people, when confronted with new information, become aggressive and defensive, rather than appreciating the opportunity to learn something.
 
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