If you had to choose Obama or Romney

[tenderman100]

I already know who's gonna win: Goldman Sachs

That's Government Sachs to you.

 

[tenderman100]

Romney, mainly because I think overall Obama is an underqualified pussy in the world arena and ran our economy further into the ground. At least Romney knows how to run a business.

More wisdom.

What has Obama accomplished in his life really?

Licking the ass of Marxist professors, affirmative actioning his way into the Ivy League where he gave all his professors the sort of hard on only lefties desperate to help a underprivileged minority can have..lucking his way into a gigunda book contract from the the lefty Manhattan publishing establishment (allowing BO to write about his most favorite subject -- himself).

Doing the community organizing schtick in Chicago (translation: extorting money for the downtrodden), abandoning that when it was clear it was nowheresville...then wending his way into the Chicago radical chic circles of Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, and Jeremiah Wright...while getting a sweetheart real estate deal from a convicted felon...then losing his only competitive political campaign...then winding up in the Senate of the United States when his first opponent, who was going to make it a race, wound up dropping out because divorce papers "mysteriously" appeared, showing that he had tried to drag his wife (actress Jeri Ryan, Seven on Star Trek Voyager) into swinger circles...

And then...national prominence because, as Joe Biden say, he is "articulate and clean"

Bottom line. No real world experience, a man who has moved through his adult life in a cocoon of liberal horseshit...a man eminently unqualified to run a county mosquitoe abatement board, let alone be the President of the United States

 

[speakeasy]

Romney, mainly because I think overall Obama is an underqualified pussy in the world arena and ran our economy further into the ground. At least Romney knows how to run a business.

Yes, because America is best run as a corporation. :dodgy:

 

[IpsaScientiaPotestasEst]

Obama, easy. First president to actually put anything into renewable energy. Plus, after seeing his speech at the RNC-I was more than willing to give Romney a chance to vote for him but after that speech...hell no. Its more of the same old pandering to the baby boomer ideal of American greatness and that Americans should never have to sacrifice anything anymore (plus apparently there was a SEVERE lacking of minorities at the RNC).

Look, I hate how the economy has been going too, and have been looking for work in DC for over 7 months while waiting tables for like 8-10$ an hour (with my BA...yes yes I know)-but I can't stand it how people can think that this country won't have to go through a pain period in order to get over all the terrible politics and shit we've done for the past decade. More so, that in that speech he was talking about how the Republicans and what not have given Obama the chance to do well-when they've been against him from the start and hell even the Majority Whip (I believe, I know McConnell said it) said that they would do all they could to make him a one term president. Thats not even to mention that these f*ckers have had complete control of the house for two years now and keep voting on dumb shit like the contraception crap, and do hearings on the radicalization of Islam in the US. The only active thing they've done towards jobs is that start up bill, and not SHIT else. Not to mention the taxes thing, when taxes on the rich have been the lowest they've ever been in a long time (and I will state that I don't believe the rich should be taxed SOLELY because they have more money/the ability to do it, but again they're being taxed at the lowest rate in a LONG time). Furthermore, the fact that he stated Obama needs to get a stronger backbone to the rest of the world and Iran. Fucking shoot me. Thats the idea the got us into Iraq, and screwed over our image with the rest of the world-which the Obama adminstration has been seeking to resow. Now I dont agree with all of the administrations policies, particularly on their use of drones-but they've done very well as far as foreign policy.

So yeah, I voted for Obama-and while I'm definitely not happy about the way everything has gone in the past four years-I was more than willing and open to give Romney (or a minority party posssssibly) a chance for my vote-but after that RNC speech....hell no. Obama all the way.

 

[Excelsior]

Domestically shit wont change. Shit wont change for another 8-16 years when the baby boomers finally lose power. Hopefully we aren't as greedy and stupid as they are.

Bingo.

 

[IpsaScientiaPotestasEst]

Can't wait/am curious to see whats gonna happen when the first of the Gen Xrs (?) or millenials (I fucking HATE that name, but have to define the age group I am talking about) really start to come into political power. Wonder if that could be a political movement in and of itself, instead of getting incumbents out of power-get ALL baby boomers out of power ASAP. I know its not gonna happen anytime soon, but would be cool/interesting to see/happen (or even just contemplate). Or, will that generate become so disillusioned from politics that they'll just become more apathetic?

Domestically shit wont change. Shit wont change for another 8-16 years when the baby boomers finally lose power. Hopefully we aren't as greedy and stupid as they are.

Bingo.

 

[tenderman100]

Yes, because America is best run as a corporation. :dodgy:

Calvin Coolidge
"The chief business of the American people is business."

 

[tenderman100]

Obama, easy. First president to actually put anything into renewable energy.

Yes, he put in tons of money, most of which we will never get back. Google Solyndra.

Look, I hate how the economy has been going too, and have been looking for work in DC for over 7 months while waiting tables for like 8-10$ an hour (with my BA...yes yes I know)-

Here ya go, pal. This ad's for you.

 

[Excelsior]

Can't wait/am curious to see whats gonna happen when the first of the Gen Xrs (?) or millenials (I fucking HATE that name, but have to define the age group I am talking about) really start to come into political power. Wonder if that could be a political movement in and of itself, instead of getting incumbents out of power-get ALL baby boomers out of power ASAP. I know its not gonna happen anytime soon, but would be cool/interesting to see/happen (or even just contemplate). Or, will that generate become so disillusioned from politics that they'll just become more apathetic?

I can't say. I know that the younger generations have a lot of potential to do good, but we are the children of boomers and apples don't fall too far from trees. Mistakes could be made.

That being said, we've learned a lot of hard lessons as well, lessons that many boomer parents conveniently got to miss (ex: the value of a higher education...and how one can inflate it). This will make the difference.

The transition will not be the panacea that takes away all problems, but I think some good will come out of it. No generation has ever been quite like the boomer generation. None have enjoyed (and squandered) such continued prosperity and wealth, and none have ever in modern history held such a clear stranglehold on financial, political and social power. Their transition away from control will make a big difference, and I suspect it'll be good for those who, thanks to their uniquely comprehensive domination of all sectors of this society, have largely been sitting on the sidelines.

We're stuck with them for at least 15-20 years in my estimation. Only then will we see substantive positive change for those who are getting hit hardest by the recession: the young.

Until then, hold tight...

 

[Andy_B]

No difference in the two in my eyes except what the republicans would do in the Middle East. I like Obama's hands off approach. Romey would have us knee deep in Syria which would have us knee deep in Iran with Isreal. Who knows what Russia and China would say and Europe would pussy out.

Nailed it.

Romney would basically be Obama but with more middle east wars.

 

[LoveBug]

Obama... As already stated, no more wars, no more needless intervention.. not cuts to social spending before cuts to the military and further taxes to the top bracket, stopping the maddening income disparities between the elite and average in this country... oh well, guess I'm just a flaming leftie hah

 

[Kitsune]

Being a part of the next generation... I'm pretty sure we're fucked. I'm one of the only people I know of my age that isn't a full retard when it comes to money.

 

[soup]

They should decide the election by seeing how well these two would do in a cold-approach competition.

I already had this idea. This tells me it's a good one.

Obama/Biden would win that contest. Hands down.

I'm very curious as to why you believe this. I believe you are right out of my gut instinct, but would like to read your breakdown.

Anyone check out the singularity theory. If that's the case, then it's a matter of flesh vs. metal- who'd win?

We should be trying to figure out which guy will be bring about Skynet first.

 

[porscheguy]

I'm very curious as to why you believe this. I believe you are right out of my gut instinct, but would like to read your breakdown.

Romney "spergs out" whenever he's placed in a situation where he's got to deal with normal people. Paul Ryan is just a turd. I figure he's only screwed his wife, that black girl from college (maybe, but I have visions of him begging her to sexually humiliate him by having breeding parties), and maybe one girl in high school. Blowing his priest when he was an altar boy doesn't count.

Obama OTOH has had to sit through a few of those "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" situations. You've got to be a charmer to walk a mile in his shoes. And who remembers when he called out Michael Steele as an Uncle Tom at the white house press correspondents dinner a few years ago? And Biden is an old school politician who talks shit to everyone and everything. That's step one when it comes to game.

 

[Roustabout]

Romney.
1) Obama wants the U.S. to be more of an entitlement state. I don't know about you guys, but I don't want my tax dollars to go towards allowing others to sit on their asses and not work. Obama will turn the U.S. into a welfare state.
2) Obama will raise taxes on income, corporations, capital gains, and dividends. As to the first (raising taxes on income), there is no legitimate justification for taxing higher incomes more so than lower. Don't punish a person just because he or she earns a higher income than another. As to the latter three, it will only hurt the already struggling U.S. economy.

Romney is not perfect, but he appears to be more concerned with improving the U.S. economy than Obama, who seems to be more about creating class warfare than anything else.

 

[Smitty]

I think they both suck corporate dick.

That said, those of you who say Romney will start wars, keep in mind he is moderate. He's not a neocon, which is why the necons hate him. Romney wants to be a money president. He wants to be known as the guy who saved America and returned her back to being an economic powerhouse like she was post-WWII. He'll fail because the only way to do that is to make drastic cuts to defense AND entitlements, and the congress won't do both. We'll all just continue driving off the cliff and die together -- all for one, one for all, right America?

And for those who think Obama will keep us out of conflicts in the middle east, remember Libya in March 2011? We were firing off Tomahawk missiles like it was the fourth of July in Mississippi. Obama has used drones to kill more people (including women and children) than his predecessor.

Both Obama and Romney have done absolutely nothing for civil liberties, which is precisely the one area everyone should be concerned. Both men represent more government in your life telling you how to live.

 

[ManAbout]

Romney.
1) Obama wants the U.S. to be more of an entitlement state. I don't know about you guys, but I don't want my tax dollars to go towards allowing others to sit on their asses and not work. Obama will turn the U.S. into a welfare state.

Why do people repeat absolute garbage as though it is true? Where has obama said that he wants people to sit on their asses and not work while you pay for them?

Do you actually analyze any information? Or do you just watch Fox news all day, stuff your brain with stupidity and then vomit it all out at given intervals?

What absolute bullshit.

 

[Roustabout]

http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/dick-morris/238501-obama-kills-welfare-reform

 

[ManAbout]

That lie has been debunked over and over and over again.

As I said, if you watched anything other than Fox news and Dick Morris, you might actually get another viewpoint. It's an outright lie. The changes were requested by the state Governors including Republicans.

Try to think for yourself once in a while instead of filling your brain with right wing talking points and regurgitating them.

In fact, Obama did not waive the work requirement.

His administration in July issued a letter to state governments saying that the Department of Health and Human Services would consider requests from states to experiment with new ways to fulfill the work requirements. The letter said that in order to receive waivers to carry out the experiments, states would have to show that their plans would move more welfare recipients into jobs than existing policies.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-santorum-welfare-obama-20120828,0,1255653.story

 

[kosko]

Romney.
1) Obama wants the U.S. to be more of an entitlement state. I don't know about you guys, but I don't want my tax dollars to go towards allowing others to sit on their asses and not work. Obama will turn the U.S. into a welfare state.
2) Obama will raise taxes on income, corporations, capital gains, and dividends. As to the first (raising taxes on income), there is no legitimate justification for taxing higher incomes more so than lower. Don't punish a person just because he or she earns a higher income than another. As to the latter three, it will only hurt the already struggling U.S. economy.

Romney is not perfect, but he appears to be more concerned with improving the U.S. economy than Obama, who seems to be more about creating class warfare than anything else.

To Bad Bush also wanted America to be a entitlement state when he inflated Medcaid.

Romney will too as has/wiil Obama. Get a clue.

As these Boomers are graying into dust whom is not to believe that spending will not increase even more? These are the only people whom vote en-masse spending will continue to get ramped up with cuts coming from other sectors like Transportation and Education.


In regards to the next generation and polotics. Yes we will undue some of the errors but the natural progession for a Reactionary state is to try and always keep place the status qou regardless of the cost.

You seen how OWS gaivnized the youth and stuch. The youth have MArxist tendacies built into them. The boomers put into their heads that everybody is entitled to everything.

After we get gouged and taxed to pay for the boomers there will be a push back once the enitloment program dissapear. Not to make new ones, or reform but to establish that evreybody gets something. Since at are current rate not evreybody will. This is what hte youth sadly have in-bred into them.

And this follows my theory that America will turn not into a Marxist state but a fascist one. Our generation when we attain power will consolidate evreything while the next will sell it out.