Illegal immigrant gets California law license

[Hencredible Casanova]

That's disingenuous. For one, I've been a forum member for much longer than you. Second, most of my posts are not even concerning politics. I've only delved into that recently. Vast majority of my rep points and posts comes from travel and game, not my own opinion about cultural issues of the day, which is all you seem to post about (probably because you have no life). I doubt you have many passport stamps, flags, etc.

I'm more than happy to meet you face to face if you want to "man up." That's not a problem. Well it might be. Where do you live again? Bumfuck, USA?

I don't see any reason to accept your insecure challenge beyond making better arguments and getting more likes for them. The fact that you suggest something that ludicrous is demonstrable proof of your factual bankruptcy. You have simply failed in making cogent arguments and have become exasperated.

Gets some more passport stamps. Get laid more. Meet more forum members. Maybe then you'll feel better and improve your shitty disposition, white nationalist (i.e. failure).

You are completely nonsensical. How is saying you've been a forum member longer than I have a refutation? I said as much in my last post. It's also an argument in my favor - despite being here longer than I have and having 3x as many posts, you have received only a fraction as many likes as me. That probably has something to do with your leftist politics, arrogance and anti-white racism.

And are you really challenging me to a fist fight based on a forum argument? And you're calling me exasperated?

Clearly you have no interest in putting your account on the line. Very well. Let the forum note that HC is a coward and has twice refused my request to face me in a ban poll. He is unwilling to stand behind his ideas and would rather jump into race threads and spout anti-white, leftist nonsense while hiding behind his rep points.

Hey, at least he has a passport full of stamps though.

My length of time is a refutation in that I was here before a like system was created. There was simply no way to garner likes for most of my time on the forum.

Either way that's a red herring, as the facts show I have dismantled your arguments with superior support.

I don't think you realize that your clamoring for a ban poll - something no one on the forum has ever suggested or endorsed, thus having zero credibility - is the highest compliment to my superior argumentation. Thank you. You can ignore the fact that there is a system that already exists where members can express their support for a poster's arguments. In that system, I have garnered more likes than you in this thread for the posts where we directly addressed each other.

Sorry you find yourself an outcast in Roosh's forum (another sign of the depths of your extreme views). Perhaps you should make your own forum. Good luck getting that off the ground.

I take care of things in real life so be an internet thug all you want while having no real world cred. Doesn't reflect well on you.

 

[worldwidetraveler]

I think its still important and ethical to give thought to low/lower skilled peoples jobs and how immigration affects them rather than turn a blind eye because it doesn't affect you or even benefits you.

If people were willing to work those jobs at those wages there wouldn't be an illegal problem.

Of course they won't when they can get on welfare and get around 36k a year in money and benefits.

Most people don't want to pay higher prices on products to support more pay for workers. That is really what it comes down too. In the end, the expenses of producing a product or service is pushed to the consumers.

Those people who purchase have already voted with their money.

They are telling you they don't care.

 

[Combored]

 

[scorpion]

My length of time is a refutation in that I was here before a like system was created. There was simply no way to garner likes for most of my time on the forum.

Either way that's a red herring, as the facts show I have dismantled your arguments with superior support.

I don't think you realize that your clamoring for a ban poll - something no one on the forum has ever suggested or endorsed, thus having zero credibility - is the highest compliment to my superior argumentation. Thank you. You can ignore the fact that there is a system that already exists where members can express their support for a poster's arguments. In that system, I have garnered more likes than you in this thread for the posts where we directly addressed each other.

Sorry you find yourself an outcast in Roosh's forum (another sign of the depths of your extreme views). Perhaps you should make your own forum. Good luck getting that off the ground.

I take care of things in real life so be an internet thug all you want while having no real world cred. Doesn't reflect well on you.

1/3/14

"The day that HC backed down."

Anyway this is becoming pretty stupid. If we ever cross paths in real life we can duke it out or buy each other drinks, either way is fine by me. We should probably stop shitting up the forum with any more of this back and forth, though. I think getting into internet arguments is a huge fucking waste of time and I'm annoyed with myself that you've drawn me in this far. I'm not going to place you on ignore, but I'm going to make an effort to stop responding to your posts. Go ahead and have the last word if you'd like.

 

[Marlfox]

Probably not my place to say, but I think your argument (HC and scorpion) isn't going anywhere. Your'e both too well involved (and respected) in the forums to be likely to be banned or force the other out. You've both said things here that I agree with and in the past.

People on this forum can have far more in common with each other than they might do with people who look,talk, or live as they do.

@scorpion: With big differences in geography, nationality and orthodoxy I don't think Jewish people are in as great a collusion as they might seem and they deserve not to be painted with such a broad stroke.

Getting into threats over the internet cant have any serious repercussions so its a waste of time.

@hencridible casanova: I don't see why the policies of my ancestors have to dictate my own or any other Europeans. Same as they don't have to be for any other nationality.

You can't take a moral high ground about colonialism. Whatever your nationality/heritage we can find some unpleasantness involving the treatment of other peoples. Same with anyone else on Earth.

To be honest I don't think that my interpretation was what you intended, but it just seems that way from the way you wrote your posts.

 

[Suits]

Los Angeles is a latin city in my mind (the name alone). It's literally 2+ hours from the Mexican border. That's pretty much a Mexican city.

By that standard, practically all notable Canadian cities would be American cities.

Also, does this mean that Mexican cities within 2+ hours of the US border belong to the USA?

Is New York, NY technically a Canadian city?

The troll is strong with this one.

 

[The Beast1]

Los Angeles is a latin city in my mind (the name alone). It's literally 2+ hours from the Mexican border. That's pretty much a Mexican city.

By that standard, practically all notable Canadian cities would be American cities.

Also, does this mean that Mexican cities within 2+ hours of the US border belong to the USA?

Is New York, NY technically a Canadian city?

The troll is strong with this one.

I'd argue that Toronto is very much an American city.

You don't really get very "canadian" until you get farther north.

 

[el mechanico]

I think the ban pole could be a good idea as long as you add some more people to it. Maybe Ali and a few others.

 

[Hencredible Casanova]

My length of time is a refutation in that I was here before a like system was created. There was simply no way to garner likes for most of my time on the forum.

Either way that's a red herring, as the facts show I have dismantled your arguments with superior support.

I don't think you realize that your clamoring for a ban poll - something no one on the forum has ever suggested or endorsed, thus having zero credibility - is the highest compliment to my superior argumentation. Thank you. You can ignore the fact that there is a system that already exists where members can express their support for a poster's arguments. In that system, I have garnered more likes than you in this thread for the posts where we directly addressed each other.

Sorry you find yourself an outcast in Roosh's forum (another sign of the depths of your extreme views). Perhaps you should make your own forum. Good luck getting that off the ground.

I take care of things in real life so be an internet thug all you want while having no real world cred. Doesn't reflect well on you.

1/3/14

"The day that HC backed down."

Anyway this is becoming pretty stupid. If we ever cross paths in real life we can duke it out or buy each other drinks, either way is fine by me. We should probably stop shitting up the forum with any more of this back and forth, though. I think getting into internet arguments is a huge fucking waste of time and I'm annoyed with myself that you've drawn me in this far. I'm not going to place you on ignore, but I'm going to make an effort to stop responding to your posts. Go ahead and have the last word if you'd like.

Thanks again for the compliment.

Once you've ran out of arguments, it's best to just bow out of a thread, for your own sake and that of the forum. This is a forum made up of a diverse group of men of different races, nationalities, experiences and views. If you're going to make an argument about a sensitive issue it's best to have facts on your side and a fair degree of moderation. Because a robust challenge is sure to come regardless. You've done yourself no favors by undermining Roosh's authority in calling openly for a ban poll to supersede a system he has already put in place to measure a poster's value.

As gentlemen, there's simply no need to disparage other members and create phony internet drama, especially about an issue you have little control over. Less stress leads to longer life. Why get worked up about demographic trends you have no ability to counteract? The most effective thing you can probably do is start a harem and impregnate as many white women as possible while enlisting other people of your race to do the same. Good luck being taken seriously in today's America.

Personally, I don't find much value in this "debate" because we both know that border is wide open and plenty of people have made it over here illegally from the time this thread started up until now.

I was mainly shedding historical context to show there are two sides of every story, which helps explain modern trends. No developed country is without dirt on its hands.

Illegal immigrants are simply taking advantage of the porous borders and lax enforcement here. We'd probably do the same thing in their shoes if we were in a shitty predicament in a nearby foreign country. I must imagine that the ownership class in the US supports illegal immigration because they haven't done shit to stop it. I'd direct my energy on them instead of the illegals, who are simply doing what we would do in their shoes.

There's certainly enough money to build an airtight border with a permanent US military presence, but that's probably bad for business.

That said, I'd like to see a secure border (for many reasons) and no more illegal immigration, but I know that forces bigger than myself have other ideas.

 

[Hencredible Casanova]

Los Angeles is a latin city in my mind (the name alone). It's literally 2+ hours from the Mexican border. That's pretty much a Mexican city.

By that standard, practically all notable Canadian cities would be American cities.

Also, does this mean that Mexican cities within 2+ hours of the US border belong to the USA?

Is New York, NY technically a Canadian city?

The troll is strong with this one.

What I meant was only one place in Mexico - DF (largest city in the hemisphere) - has more Mexicans than LA. That's just Mexicans. LA also has the largest population of Salvadoreans, Guatemalans, and Nicaraguans (I think) outside of those respective countries. It's a heavily latino city, though quite segregated. It makes sense that LA would be a popular destination city for illegals.

How many Americans live in most Canadian cities though? Are there more than in most US cities?

What's funny is that a while back US border agents were realizing that most of the illegals weren't Mexicans, but Salvadoreans and Guatemalans. When caught, those illegals would say they were Mexican so that they could be deported to Mexico (which is closer to the US than their countries), and where they could try to cross again. Border agents would ask them to name a Mexican holiday, like independence day, and they wouldn't know the answer, thus confirming they weren't from Mexico and had to be deported elsewhere.

 

[Aliblahba]

I'm going to walk to Tijuana, get drunk, then try to cross back over illegally. When they ask my nationality, I'm gonna Argentino, mother fuckers! Then I'll get a free ride all the way to Buenos Aires.

 

[Wayout]

The guy crossed the border at 17 illegally, then went to a law school why supporting himself all on his own,then becomes a lawyer and makes a legal impact! - if this is not the most American thing I ever heard,I don't know what it is! This is more American than some kid who was born in Cali and doesn't even speak English! Who cares he is Mexican - his spirit is all America!

 

[Veloce]

You're completely missing the point. No one cares how French the French are or how Italian the Italians are. Both nations have built incredible cultures as well as profound historical narratives. That means something and it's worth preserving. Name one Muslim equivalent of a Voltaire or Descartes. There you go.

:huh: What point am I missing? Your point is that countries that have produced great thinkers deserve some sort of special protection from immigrants?

I'll ignore the blatant cultural elitism there and address the issue at face value.

I'd say the Greeks probably propelled the human intellect farther than any other culture. And look at Greece now. Their best effort is El Mech trolling the shit out of Ali on a daily basis

Pythagoras, Socrates, and Aristotle couldn't prevent their banking crisis. Absurd statement right? That's about how relevant Voltaire and Descartes are these days.

Western Europe produced an unparalleled breadth of culture from the Renaissance on, and now it's all neatly packed up in museums for us to admire. This does nothing to address the current situation in Europe. There are iconic French landmarks that are currently being bought up by wealthy Persians. Enjoy European culture while you can in your lifetime because the times are changing.

 

[Suits]

The guy crossed the border at 17 illegally, then went to a law school why supporting himself all on his own,then becomes a lawyer and makes a legal impact! - if this is not the most American thing I ever heard,I don't know what it is! This is more American than some kid who was born in Cali and doesn't even speak English! Who cares he is Mexican - his spirit is all America!

Ya, if all non-legal immigrants were like this guy, I'd say 'open the floodgates.'

It's the ones who demand US benefits and special protections that cost tax payers money that we should have the issue with.

However, probably the majority of Mexicans in the US who did not migrate her legitimately, are incredibly hard working and probably take less than they contribute.

I'm just speculating, but it seems that they do seem willing to take lousy jobs that pay terrible wages.

That type of work ethic is American at its core.

 

[Wayout]

I'm going to walk to Tijuana, get drunk, then try to cross back over illegally. When they ask my nationality, I'm gonna Argentino, mother fuckers! Then I'll get a free ride all the way to Buenos Aires.

You will! And you are not going to be the first one. There was many stories like that. In all seriousness - if you never been fingerprinted by the feds - they have no way of knowing who you are. Just keep silent ( that's your right anyway) but give them false clue like Argentinian money in your pocket. You will spend about 2-4 weeks in a detention center where you can meet some Hispanic women and make connections,then they will deport you.After your free vacation you can come back and sue the government for deporting a US citizen without any evidence and make some money again. You welcome!

 

[Aliblahba]

The new border proposal. Easy, just shift a little north.


Everything in between the black lines is the new U.S.





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[DjembaDjemba]

Immigrating to Argentina is actually very easy. You just need to land, register, and you can automatically apply for citizenship.

 

[Moma]

The new border proposal. Easy, just shift a little north.


Everything in between the black lines is the new U.S.

Hey, you cut off nearly all of Florida!!

 

[Tex Pro]

A better map of the USA:

 

[Suits]

Immigrating to Argentina is actually very easy. You just need to land, register, and you can automatically apply for citizenship.

Incorrect.

The current laws governing citizenship (Ley 346, Ley 23.059, and Decreto 3.213/84) set forth very simple requirements:
*be 18 years old or older;
*have been living in Argentina for 2 years; and
*apply for citizenship before a federal judge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_nationality_law