I'm appearing on the Dr. Oz show

Gamers said:
This is how you do it when the host and the whole audience hates you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43xF6WmBMYM



That show was actually funny, though you never know if the guys are real there.

You will find many Game concepts there and why it works despite the guy being a bit extreme of course.

Also he had much more to say than Roosh was ever given a chance. At Dr. Oz Roosh was somehow meant to just sit there and take the abuse in silence. On that show the guest talked for 70% of the time.

Also when you move into the emotional TV aspects then of course some personality types are more well-suited for it - emotional, strongly gesticulating, quipping back, talking shit all the time, being defiant etc. Not everyone wishes to debate like that. Swaying the crowd is one thing - speaking the truth another.
 

Blaster

Ostrich
Gold Member
Zelcorpion said:
Gamers said:
This is how you do it when the host and the whole audience hates you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43xF6WmBMYM



That show was actually funny, though you never know if the guys are real there.

You will find many Game concepts there and why it works despite the guy being a bit extreme of course.

Also he had much more to say than Roosh was ever given a chance. At Dr. Oz Roosh was somehow meant to just sit there and take the abuse in silence. On that show the guest talked for 70% of the time.

Also when you move into the emotional TV aspects then of course some personality types are more well-suited for it - emotional, strongly gesticulating, quipping back, talking shit all the time, being defiant etc. Not everyone wishes to debate like that. Swaying the crowd is one thing - speaking the truth another.


One of the things I like about Roosh though is that he's not obnoxious. He speaks in complete sentences and doesn't yell. He presents as a regular, educated man who has achieved much through work and dedication, with beliefs and forged from experience, analytical thinking, and deep principle. He's not a smooth-talking sociopath, he's not a natural stage performer who can charm an audience at will, and he doesn't typically display the kind of common/shallow hyper-masculinity like those guys on the Maury show. The difference between the Dr. Oz and Maury segments is that Maury specifically brought those guys out to be dancing clowns saying crazy shit, and they delivered. Maybe Oz hoped Roosh would be a dancing clown too, maybe not (I doubt it, Oz's style is different from Maury). Either way, Roosh was never going to be that clown whether Oz wanted it or not.

And here is the money quote from the Maury segment:

Maury: "If you did not have two kids with him, would you still be here?"

Karen: "Yes, I would still love him"

The takeaway from that circus show is mostly an example of how much a woman will forgive dominant male excess.
 
My friend and I now use "gluten free" to refer to fat people because of that one hog listing all of the things she was free of.

"Good god she was hideous, man."
"Was she gluten free?"
"Definitely."
 

Ocelot

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Gold Member
TheWastelander said:
My friend and I now use "gluten free" to refer to fat people because of that one hog listing all of the things she was free of.

"Good god she was hideous, man."
"Was she gluten free?"
"Definitely."

Haha, this forum would definitely be the place to come if you were compiling a thesaurus and had just reached the word "fat".

My dad gradually acquired a rich and vibrant lexicon of fat descriptors over his life, which I have the honour of inheriting. A few favourites:

Self-basting
Well-fed
Regs-compliant (he worked in thermal and sound insulation)
Porkers
Viagra-sponsors

These are the kind of gems that should be passed from father to son, and treasured for generations to come.
 

annoyn777

Pigeon
Gold Member
Roosh, I admire the way you handled yourself on the show. I just got a chance to watch and must say that you handled yourself with a high level of self control. I am not sure I would have been able to maintain my composure if I was placed in the same situation.

Some general observations: This was my first time watching Dr. Oz and most certainly my last. What a terrible show. They were completely unfair to you and never gave you a chance to speak and express your points. I believe you should have been able to respond to each of the 3 whale individually, just as they were allowed to express themselves to you. I found myself becoming frustrated over and over again at how Oz was acting 'holier than thou'. I truly think he is a massive pussy. The promotional video at the end is a complete joke and I feel sorry for anybody that is simple minded enough to fall for that crap.

Honestly Roosh, you are correct. Being obese is terrible for our world and is the most shameful thing a person can do to themselves. I completely agree that if you are very fat on the outside it is a direct reflection of you insides. The first beached whale who spoke claiming she is gluten free, sugar free, has a nutritionist, etc. must certainly be lying. There is no way she would be that big if she were as committed to her health and fitness as she would lead you to believe. I have been skinny and for a brief period I gained some weight and had a beer belly. The solution was simply, I hit the gym hard for a few months and watched what I ate. After months of work, I had a 6 pack. I hate to hear fat people talk about "you don't know me, you don't know what I do." I may not personally know them, but I am damn sure that if they are eating that pure of a diet and working out that they would be losing weight quickly.
 

Dusty

Owl
Gold Member
Some post wall heifer shared this on FB:

A while back, at the entrance of a gym, there was a picture of a very thin and beautiful woman. The caption was "This summer, do you want to be a mermaid or a whale?"

The story goes, a woman (of clothing size unknown) answered the following way:

"Dear people, whales are always surrounded by friends (dolphins, seals, curious humans), they are sexually active and raise their children with great tenderness.
They entertain like crazy with dolphins and eat lots of prawns. They swim all day and travel to fantastic places like Patagonia, the Barents Sea or the coral reefs of Polynesia.
They sing incredibly well and sometimes even are on cds. They are impressive and dearly loved animals, which everyone defend and admires.

Mermaids do not exist.

But if they existed, they would line up to see a psychologist because of a problem of split personality: woman or fish?
They would have no sex life and could not bear children.
Yes, they would be lovely, but lonely and sad.
And, who wants a girl that smells like fish by his side?

Without a doubt, I'd rather be a whale.

At a time when the media tells us that only thin is beautiful, I prefer to eat ice cream with my kids, to have dinner with my husband, to eat and drink and have fun with my friends.

We women, we gain weight because we accumulate so much wisdom and knowledge that there isn't enough space in our heads, and it spreads all over our bodies.
We are not fat, we are greatly cultivated.
Every time I see my curves in the mirror, I tell myself: "How amazing am I ?! "

:facepalm:
 

Suits

 
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Dusty said:
Some post wall heifer shared this on FB:

A while back, at the entrance of a gym, there was a picture of a very thin and beautiful woman. The caption was "This summer, do you want to be a mermaid or a whale?"

The story goes, a woman (of clothing size unknown) answered the following way:

"Dear people, whales are always surrounded by friends (dolphins, seals, curious humans), they are sexually active and raise their children with great tenderness.
They entertain like crazy with dolphins and eat lots of prawns. They swim all day and travel to fantastic places like Patagonia, the Barents Sea or the coral reefs of Polynesia.
They sing incredibly well and sometimes even are on cds. They are impressive and dearly loved animals, which everyone defend and admires.

Mermaids do not exist.

But if they existed, they would line up to see a psychologist because of a problem of split personality: woman or fish?
They would have no sex life and could not bear children.
Yes, they would be lovely, but lonely and sad.
And, who wants a girl that smells like fish by his side?

Without a doubt, I'd rather be a whale.

At a time when the media tells us that only thin is beautiful, I prefer to eat ice cream with my kids, to have dinner with my husband, to eat and drink and have fun with my friends.

We women, we gain weight because we accumulate so much wisdom and knowledge that there isn't enough space in our heads, and it spreads all over our bodies.
We are not fat, we are greatly cultivated.
Every time I see my curves in the mirror, I tell myself: "How amazing am I ?! "

:facepalm:

[img=600x400]http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media//65/99265-050-87DC205E.jpg[/img]
 

AnonymousBosch

 
Banned
Gold Member
Dusty said:
Some post wall heifer shared this on FB:

We women, we gain weight because we accumulate so much wisdom and knowledge that there isn't enough space in our heads, and it spreads all over our bodies.

Post this back, captioned "What 'Knowledge' looks like".

image.jpg
 

Bear Hands

Woodpecker
JoeyKhmer said:
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I hate to hear fat people talk about "you don't know me, you don't know what I do." I may not personally know them, but I am damn sure that if they are eating that pure of a diet and working out that they would be losing weight quickly.

You can eat the purest diet in the world, and when it amounts to 1000 calories a day above maintenance, you'll be a fat ass, and you'll still deal with the health issues inherent to being fat. They really believe they can eat as much as they want as long as it can be described with all those healthy buzzwords.

Obese people are extremely passive. It's an outward sign that they have personalities that wait for everything to come to them. The whales you see at online-dating sites and apps fill their profiles with disqualifiers for men because they're trying to cut off the rejection that's coming to them, because passive fatties know that rejection comes to them more than anything positive.
 

fortysix

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Roosh,

Just watched this show...

A sincere thank you so coming on this show and speaking this truth! I want to give you a hug man.

This guy is a fucking tool - "All people fascinate me..." He embodies so much of what is wrong with America.

f*** these cows living in their bubbles.

We should start a fat tax.
 

Vaun

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Bear Hands said:
JoeyKhmer said:
snip

I hate to hear fat people talk about "you don't know me, you don't know what I do." I may not personally know them, but I am damn sure that if they are eating that pure of a diet and working out that they would be losing weight quickly.

You can eat the purest diet in the world, and when it amounts to 1000 calories a day above maintenance, you'll be a fat ass, and you'll still deal with the health issues inherent to being fat. They really believe they can eat as much as they want as long as it can be described with all those healthy buzzwords.

Such is the problem I see with many, even most Paleo adherents. Few if any are lean, and most eat too damn much.
 

Dallas Winston

Ostrich
Gold Member
AnonymousBosch said:
Dusty said:
Some post wall heifer shared this on FB:

We women, we gain weight because we accumulate so much wisdom and knowledge that there isn't enough space in our heads, and it spreads all over our bodies.

Post this back, captioned "What 'Knowledge' looks like".

image.jpg

^ Good God. The static load on that skeletal structure! Poor bones and joints.
 

IvanDrago

Pelican
Gold Member
Vaun said:
Such is the problem I see with many, even most Paleo adherents. Few if any are lean, and most eat too damn much.

The way I eat could be considered close to paleo, although I eat salt and a few more vegetables than are on the "approved" list. I am extremely lean. Adding processed sugars and nutritionless calorie bomb grains to make a "balanced" diet isn't going to make me any healthier.

The problem with paleo is that it has been corrupted by a bunch of hippies and old women trying to make baked good equivalents of their favorite foods using paleo ingredients. You will see people grinding up 3000 calories in almonds so they can eat gluten free paleo bread and crap like that. Or worse, they add "natural" sugar and "organic" cream to make muffins and other snack foods. I stopped hanging out in the paleo forums because most people are shitheads talking about paleo snack foods, five fingered shoes and the most paleo way to take a shit now a days.

My meals consist of whole pieces of real meat, eggs, whole pieces of fruit and vegetables. If I am inactive, I cut back on calories. If I am active, I eat more fruit. I fry in butter and drink only water, tea and coffee. (and a lot of scotch some times) I normally eat two 1000 calorie meals a day. That is a shitload of food when you are eating whole pieces of food how it exists right off the tree or bone. It is cheap too. I rarely spend more than $10 a day for real food and my nutritional intake is off the charts compared to most peoples eats.

It works fantastic and I feel and look better than most 'Merican guys 10-15 years younger than me. I call it the "Eat How People Ate Before Everyone Became Fucking Retarded Diet"

Dr. Oz would go broke trying to sell my plan though because there is nothing to sell and it wouldn't have repeat customers.
 
IvanDrago said:
Vaun said:
Such is the problem I see with many, even most Paleo adherents. Few if any are lean, and most eat too damn much.

The way I eat could be considered close to paleo, although I eat salt and a few more vegetables than are on the "approved" list. I am extremely lean. Adding processed sugars and nutritionless calorie bomb grains to make a "balanced" diet isn't going to make me any healthier.

The problem with paleo is that it has been corrupted by a bunch of hippies and old women trying to make baked good equivalents of their favorite foods using paleo ingredients. You will see people grinding up 3000 calories in almonds so they can eat gluten free paleo bread and crap like that. Or worse, they add "natural" sugar and "organic" cream to make muffins and other snack foods. I stopped hanging out in the paleo forums because most people are shitheads talking about paleo snack foods, five fingered shoes and the most paleo way to take a shit now a days.

My meals consist of whole pieces of real meat, eggs, whole pieces of fruit and vegetables. If I am inactive, I cut back on calories. If I am active, I eat more fruit. I fry in butter and drink only water, tea and coffee. (and a lot of scotch some times)

It works fantastic and I feel and look better than most 'Merican guys 10-15 years younger than me. I call it the "Eat How People Ate Before Everyone Became Fucking Retarded Diet"

Dr. Oz would go broke trying to sell my plan though because there is nothing to sell and it wouldn't have repeat customers.

I do almost the same thing but I also cut out caffeine and track everything I eat using MyFitnessPal. I've gotten to the point that I'm fanatical about it and feel odd if I don't do it.

Since I'm trying to drop from 15% - 10% BF I usually eat maintenance on workout days and 500 below on rest days.

Fat people and ignorant people who have never bothered to do any research on nutrition (who are usually also fat) annoy the shit out of me. The muffins, danishes and other shit they're shoving in their mouth for breakfast are partly why they're fat as fuck. The sugar rush and the dopamine rush is too much for them to handle. They become addicted to it.

I was talking to my parents about food they ate when they were kids back in the late 40s and 50s. Desserts were a luxury they barely ever had any of. Meat, vegetables, and various combinations of the two were the staples of their diet and very few people were fat. It was mainly the hardcore beer drinkers who got fat. Because society is full of this junk food few people realize how difficult it is to eat a large caloric surplus of meat and vegetables. You get to a point where you have to stop otherwise you'll puke. Our bodies are built for consuming that food. They never evolved to deal with baked goods and desserts.
 

xmlenigma

Pelican
I dont know if I encourage FAT SHAMING.. but the opposite is also not good.. where there is FAT PRIDE.. This is what Dr. Oz & Oprah and FEMINI-FAT-NAZI crew are CHOOSING to STAY .. FAT with FAT PRIDE..

We need PRO HEALTH stance rather than the 2 OPPOSITES.

I encourage people who are gaining weight to START DOING SOMETHING,.. diet exercise.. work life balance.. because it happened to me while over working and gaining weight.

TAKING PRIDE in BEING FAT is whats fucked up. I think FAT SHAMING is opposite.. and too "RAW" for people.

CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.. versus SHAMING..

Of course, when we talk casually or write online.. it tends to be a bit RAW and politically incorrect for the masses.. even when they might AGREE with you internally..

But, the whole I TAKE PRIDE IN BEING FAT movement.. is BAD... (that is what FAT SHAMING is going against)

We support you and our Red Pill boys here Roosh.. I think we need to BURN.. FAT PRIDE without doing FAT SHAMING..

I dont know how that can be done..

I know people who are UNFIT and automatically SHAMEFUL at times.. We need to encourage them..

But again.. I AM NOT WITH Dr. OZ and his 3 FAT LADIES.. Sorry.. they are being stupid and overweight..

I have aunts & grannies who have put on weight.. I dont and will never FAT SHAME them.. but neither will I encourage them with FALSE FAT PRIDE.. that these AMERICAN FATTIES are doing.

I have cousins who have been BULKY all their lives.. we make fat jokes and they also themselves do.. We love each other.. They are happy & content.. But I do share how certain healthy things have HELPED ME..

There is no EGO.. of Fat PRIDE or SHAME.. I am seeing it come mostly from the US/ FAT FEMINIST movement to JUSTIFY their UNHEALTHY selves.

I know how & why people put on weight.. there is some SHAME automatically.. inside peoples minds.. instead of making it NEGATIVE by FAT SHAMING.. we need to definitely DISCOURAGE their FAT PRIDE mentality..

Anyways.. Just my 2 cents.

My question or thought is this.. HOW CAN WE.. CUT DOWN FAT PRIDE... without FAT SHAMING? .. Something for us all to think about.
 
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