I'm ready to accept Christ. But I don't know how to do it. I've approached two orthodox churches, but they were never very welcoming to me. There is a huge Catholic congregation where I live. Is Catholicism good enough?
Sounds like you’ve already done it. If you are “ ready to accept” Christ, then you already believe in Him as your Savior. You believe He died for your sins. This is salvation. You are saved.I'm ready to accept Christ. But I don't know how to do it.
Actually, if he is a believer, then, he is “good”.I will pray for you to make the best decision. Even if you decide to go Orthodox, at least you’re not a Protestant who thinks you’re already good and all you have to do is read your Bible. God bless.
4Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 7But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
28And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 29Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 30Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? 31But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
You wouldn’t even know Who Christ Is, or anything about His birth life / ministry / death / Resurrection / Ascension, without the Bible that His Church wrote, compiled, and canonized for you. I grow weary of these ignorant Protestant attacks on apostolic Christianity; they are always the same, coming from people who know nothing about Christian history, and they are all easily debunked by maybe an hour - tops - of actual research. Yes, the Church matters. It is the theanthropic Body of Christ. Grace can influence your life the way God sees fit, but those outside the Body of Christ do not possess the fullness of the Christian faith or the sacramental life outlined in the very Bible they claim as sole authority while refusing to truly read.The focus should always be on Christ.
This is a strawman argument. The sack of 1204 does not effect my theological convictions in the slightest. Nor have I "internalized the commands of my Mohammaden oppressors", who, as an Anglo-Saxon/Norman Canadian, have never oppressed me or my ancestors. As I stated above, I spent roughly two years with a foot in both camps, while also reading the Church Fathers. Coming from an atheist upbringing, I had to do this to learn what the Catholics taught, what the Orthodox taught and what the earliest Christians taught as I was totally ignorant on all three fronts. I can still clearly remember first reading about the Filioque controversy and thinking to myself "well, that seems like splitting hairs. I don't see the big deal here." It was only after I continued to dig deeper into the ancient Patristics and began to see their worldview reflected within the Orthodox Church and through an unintended process of osmosis conformed my worldview to it, that the enormous chasm between east and west became obvious.Keep in mind that Orthodox greatly exaggerate the difference between the churches and just about everything we do is a “heresy” in their eyes. The animosity greatly stems from the sack of Constantinople, Orthodox internalizing the commands of their oppressors (Mohammadens after Constantinople fell. The Turks purposefully installed anti-western patriarchs in order for there to be 0 hope of Union, therefore 0 hope of the west trying to help the Greeks retake Constantinople) and more recently, YouTubers.
Exactly and to add to your point for @M_MThe focus is *always* on Christ. But without the Church, you would not only not have a Bible, but also not know what the correct (orthodox) of Christ is to begin with.
Sure it does. But although the church is His body. And they are one. Christ is still the head.Yes, the Church matters.
Well, at least the non-Chalcedonian churches do call themselves the “Orthodox” churches. So in fact there are three “Eastern Orthodox” churches, though from a Catholic perspective, none of the three Eastern communions are actually orthodox. “Oriental” literally means “Eastern”.I started watching this a few days ago at the behest of another Catholic and within 20 minutes the guest had sited the Nestorian and non-Chalcedonian churches as examples of disunity within Eastern Orthodoxy. Calling them, along with the actual Eastern Orthodox, "the three Eastern Orthodox churches".
I've noticed a lot of Catholics do this, even apologists that should have the historical knowledge to know better, like the guy in the video.
I haven't finished it, so I don't know if it gets better.
This is an especially lazy example of justifying the word-concept fallacy, where "Eastern" among entirely different religions separated for 1600 years are being conflated. You cannot group the Eastern Orthodox in with the Orientals without being intentionally deceptive or caved-in-skull ignorant.Well, at least the non-Chalcedonian churches do call themselves the “Orthodox” churches. So in fact there are three “Eastern Orthodox” churches, though from a Catholic perspective, none of the three Eastern communions are actually orthodox. “Oriental” literally means “Eastern”.