Since Greek independence was won by Freemasons, they probably were the easiest to subvert.
Church Infiltration of the Orthodox church
- Thread starter EuropeanCanon
- Start date
With all respect, Roosh, this is a sujective opinion regarding Antiochian Church. I agree that ROCOR could be one of the best option if one can adapt to its severity. I know a theologian who in his sermon in a Antiochian church in US preached against homosexuality and after that the priest admonished him because he `hurt the feelings` of some homosexuals from the church choir whom he was giving the holy communion without making any concience problem to himself .As a result the, American Orthodox theologian left the Antiochian Orthodox Church for ROCOR. In don`t think you could find that attitude to any priest in Romanian or Serbian Orthodox Churches in US, for example. If you know some, please let us know.So, I would put as best options the latter two orthodox churches in US besides ROCOR.As we get closer to the end times, most churches will be severely corrupted, so as time goes on, it will be hard to find the "perfect" church. In the meanwhile, your best options are the Antiochian Church and ROCOR.
How To Join The Orthodox Church – Roosh Valizadeh
Many people have expressed interest to me about joining the Orthodox Church but don't know how, especially since so many Orthodox Churches seem to revolve around ethnicity. For new converts who want to experience the Divine Liturgy in mostly English, however, the choice is not difficult. First, awww.rooshv.com
In a similar way, the greek parish priests who have strong connections with Monastery `Saint Anthony the Great` from Arizona for example, and probaly many others will also never comply to homoglobo agenda.
Consequently , despite the fact Greek Orthodox Church in US is risky these days and Anthiochian Orthodox Church in US is mainly trustworthy, the reality is specifically related to any singular orthodox parish.
Good question. Greek society was exposed much longer to westernalization being outside communist influence after WW2 and moreover, being in EU from 1st January 1981 (so with 26 years earlier than Romamia and Bulgaria) knew a much bigger secularization which also was transferred in the mentality of Greeks in America , in opposition with the mentality of Russians, Serbians and Romanians which , due to their originating country position, were much longer outside of those influences. So, yes, the vulnerability of Greeks is considerably bigger despite the help of the Holy Mountain Athos which contrabalanced until a point the influences. According to prophecies, Holy Mountain itself will be secularized at some point in time and then will be a sign of eshatological time.
Indeed, the Holy Mountain will be the last bastion of Orthodoxy.
Prophecies by Athonite elders say there will come a time when the faithful monks will be called to leave the Holy Mountain.
If the most hardcore monastic community in the world is compromised, imagine the state of secular society at those times.
On a related note, a certain Romanian official (whose name I forget) testified that, one of the complaints EU officials had during negotiations for Romania to enter the EU, was that Romania had "too many monasteries" and that they had to be reduced or converted to museums.
I really think the Iron Curtain of Communism preserved much of the Orthodox Church from the corrosion of the Satanic World order.
I think is better to say that Holy Mountain will end to be the main bastion of Orthodoxy. Saint Paisios Agioritis said that at that time 800 monks from Holy Montain will go in Romania. So, Romania and maybe some parts of Russia or other countries will have places of orthodox resistance until the end.
Probably because there is a huge pressure from EU that women to be let visiting Holy Mountain it will happen at some point. But that will happen not mainly because of the political pressure but because of the secularization inside the peninsula which will have like consequence the dimininishing of grace of God there. In the end, Holy Mountain will be more like Meteora monastic complex , more a touristic than a spiritual destination.
Plus, their Patriarchate is held hostage by the Turkish government for centuries.
Greece is not under the Ecumenical Patriarchate, though the Greek Church in America is.
So what? It's a miracle of God that it has survived under the heathens for so long. Like the Patriarchates of Jerusalem, Antioch and Alexandria.
Being persecuted for Christ is an honour.
The topic is about infiltration of the Orthodox Church, so I pointed out the problem of the EP having to deal with the Turkish government(NATO-controlled territory).
It's really not any different than the Russian Chruch under Soviets
No, only the teritories regained after Balkan Wars (1912-1913) and Holy Mountain are under Ecumenic Patriarchy from Greece. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Greece
Thanks for the info, I had no idea there was an autocephalous Church of Greece.
Is the Antiochian Church also subvert by Freemasons? I notice that although Antiochians are generally grounded in Patristic tradition, among converts there are more ‘liberal’ parishes.
How is OCA like, are they based? Why did they separate from the Russian church in the first place? I am pretty skeptical of modern Americanism. I visited ROCOR parish a few weeks ago though, it was very nice.
Personally, I would place them in the same boat as GOARCH. The most liberal of the branches. The primary reason for separation, as far as I know (and I have not done extensive research on this issue) is the calendar dispute. ROCOR still holds to the old calendar, while the OCA followed the Ecumenical patriarch and went with the new calendar. Personally, I don't think it's a coincidence to see that it is the branches of the Church that went to the new calendar that have fallen into liberalism and secularism, but that's a whole other discussion.
I went from OCA to ROCOR and the contrast was like walking into an Orthodox Church from a protestant church.
I can echo this. Individual OCA parishes might be good, but I find that the average parish has issues: my local OCA parish has gone full Covid crazy with masks, distancing, etc.
That being said, the OCA’s theology is the same as the other Orthodox churches, so if that’s your impediment then don’t worry about it.
