Information on moving to europe.

[Albert]

It's not about women. And I get what your saying. You're right. I didn't grow up first world so it wouldn't be too bad transitioning to a 3rd world country or poorer area in a fully developed country. This may sound weird, but I just want simple things. A little house on the hills, with a broad I wouldn't mind marrying, have a couple goats and some chickens, grow some vegetables and shit. Have the kids make me goat cheese lol. I've chased materials and money my whole life and so has everyone in my life. I'm OK with a simple life in some backwater area of Switzerland or Austria. I'm going to pursue a career in software engineering and try to land a job overseas when I'm out of the service.
Take it slow, save some money, invest in real estate or stock, until I can just get a house and buy a broad from an ice pit in Ukraine lol.

 

[Sailor]

If you have some blood from Spain, then Google around to see if you can apply for a Spanish passport. If you get that, you can live in all 28 EU countries as much and as long as you like.

With Spanish Grandparents it is not possible,at least one of the parents has to be a Spanish citizen. It is with Italians that this grandparent/great grandparent/great great grandparent thing can work.

 

[Albert]

If you have some blood from Spain, then Google around to see if you can apply for a Spanish passport. If you get that, you can live in all 28 EU countries as much and as long as you like.

With Spanish Grandparents it is not possible,at least one of the parents has to be a Spanish citizen. It is with Italians that this grandparent/great grandparent/great great grandparent thing can work.

Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of that.

 

[trainwreck]

Have fun finding a job in Switzerland Germany or Austria without speaking German. These countries have a high level of self-value perception. You'll have to assimiliate.

Also, suicide rates are among the highest in the world int hese countries. Have you ever thought about why that is so? As someone who has lived in Switzerland for several years, I can tell you. It's boring as fuck, its expensive (to the point that your additional gains get eaten up quickly unless you live like a balkan imigrant) and people are cold.

There's way better options in Europe. Although it really depends on 4 things.

Language skills, what is your job, do you have a problem with cold weather and how much do you value the easyness the women

 

[SpecialEd]

Have fun finding a job in Switzerland Germany or Austria without speaking German. These countries have a high level of self-value perception. You'll have to assimiliate.

Also, suicide rates are among the highest in the world int hese countries. Have you ever thought about why that is so? As someone who has lived in Switzerland for several years, I can tell you. It's boring as fuck, its expensive (to the point that your additional gains get eaten up quickly unless you live like a balkan imigrant) and people are cold.

There's way better options in Europe. Although it really depends on 4 things.

Language skills, what is your job, do you have a problem with cold weather and how much do you value the easyness the women

The working language is English in any company worth working for. Outside of London, German-speaking Europe has the best job market by a longshot. You will find a job but the question is why would you want to live there? As you put it, those places are boring as fuck. Everyone follows the rules and and live in this collectivist/group-think little world. Either integrate and 'become a part of society' or... Plus, the women are worse than American women. I lived in Vienna for a year and I would have killed myself if I had to stay one day longer.

 

[Ice]

Yeah true. I think a lot of people on this forum exaggerate the shittyness of the US and the women there. I myself think Switzerland or Austria are way shittier.

Have fun finding a job in Switzerland Germany or Austria without speaking German. These countries have a high level of self-value perception. You'll have to assimiliate.

Also, suicide rates are among the highest in the world int hese countries. Have you ever thought about why that is so? As someone who has lived in Switzerland for several years, I can tell you. It's boring as fuck, its expensive (to the point that your additional gains get eaten up quickly unless you live like a balkan imigrant) and people are cold.

There's way better options in Europe. Although it really depends on 4 things.

Language skills, what is your job, do you have a problem with cold weather and how much do you value the easyness the women

The working language is English in any company worth working for. Outside of London, German-speaking Europe has the best job market by a longshot. You will find a job but the question is why would you want to live there? As you put it, those places are boring as fuck. Everyone follows the rules and and live in this collectivist/group-think little world. Either integrate and 'become a part of society' or... Plus, the women are worse than American women. I lived in Vienna for a year and I would have killed myself if I had to stay one day longer.

 

[Albert]

I get what you guys are saying. What works for one won't work for all.
By all means I don't think its the worst country in the world here in the US, but I have my ideas and opinions just like everyone else.
I started learning german already. I'm positive ill be fluent by the time I'm out of the service and I'm considering picking up another language during the time there.

For language I'm fluent in English and Spanish. At a conversational level I can hold my own in Portuguese.
Job wise I plan to do software engineering professionally, not just dabble in it as a hobby. Although lately I've been considering learning carpenting on the side if time permits.

Cold weather isn't an issue.
How much do I value the easyness with women? Not much if at all anymore.
I'm more concerned with realizing my full potential and pushing past it.

Though to most of you it may be boring as fuck, clicky, conservative, and what not. That's fine with me. I'm not looking for Vegas in Germany, Or NY in Switzerland. If I want that I can just travel or go to Vegas.

@Ice the information you provided did help. Much appreciated.

@trainwreck in your opinion what are the better options in Europe?

I'm always open to the knowledge, opinions, and ideas of others.

 

[rudebwoy]

How are you going to remain in Europe?

Your not a citizen and you will need a work permit.

Are you a software engineer now?