Internet has become too slow - I can't open many websites (especially news)

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Irenicus

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Tigre said:
Yeah, Breitbart was always slow to load for me and tied up my browser a lot.

Switching out an old fashioned hard drive for an SSD should make a big difference. The SSD is mostly important for the operating system - you can still keep a hard drive in there too for storage.



On Firefox it is slow as fuck. For example, when I open multiple tabs when browsing Breitbart, Firefox crashes.


Switching to Chrome alleviated all issues. No lagging whatsoever. It is not because of Flash, as I originally thought. Firefox is to blame.



Firefox, you are fired!
 

weambulance

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I keep hearing about how great Firefox is... yeah, maybe 10 years ago. It's sucked since about 2009 as far as I can tell. For years at a time Firefox would crash and exit any time Flash turned up on a site. :rolleyes:

Not that Chrome is all that great either. Even idling in the background with just a few tabs it will knock 1/3 off my laptop's battery life. Also, really shitty memory management and background tab grouping. No, I don't care if google sees how perverted I am by tracking my viewing habits.

Brave isn't there yet for my needs on my Windows machines but I have high hopes for it. I do use Brave on my Linux boxes and it's better than anything else I've tried there.

The fundamental problem with the modern internet, though, is just shoddy web development practices. Breitbart loads like 40 scripts in the background. Other news sites are often worse. Plenty of sites are just terribly coded and will slam one of my CPU cores to 100% for 30 seconds every time I load a page without noscript. Shitty web developers who don't understand why it's bad to make calls to fifty different servers every time the site loads a page, or site owners who want infinite analytics but who don't understand how that affects performance? Can't say for sure. I doubt it's going to get better any time soon, especially with the proliferation of frameworks that have baked-in efficiency problems.
 

anthony

Pelican
weambulance said:
I keep hearing about how great Firefox is... yeah, maybe 10 years ago. It's sucked since about 2009 as far as I can tell. For years at a time Firefox would crash and exit any time Flash turned up on a site. :rolleyes:

Not that Chrome is all that great either. Even idling in the background with just a few tabs it will knock 1/3 off my laptop's battery life. Also, really shitty memory management and background tab grouping. No, I don't care if google sees how perverted I am by tracking my viewing habits.

Brave isn't there yet for my needs on my Windows machines but I have high hopes for it. I do use Brave on my Linux boxes and it's better than anything else I've tried there.

The fundamental problem with the modern internet, though, is just shoddy web development practices. Breitbart loads like 40 scripts in the background. Other news sites are often worse. Plenty of sites are just terribly coded and will slam one of my CPU cores to 100% for 30 seconds every time I load a page without noscript. Shitty web developers who don't understand why it's bad to make calls to fifty different servers every time the site loads a page, or site owners who want infinite analytics but who don't understand how that affects performance? Can't say for sure. I doubt it's going to get better any time soon, especially with the proliferation of frameworks that have baked-in efficiency problems.

Firefox is good for its customization. The problem is what you install may be total crap or even harm you.

Brave has about a year. They also want to allow micropayments. We shall see.
 

Kona

Crow
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Try getting your own modem, if you are using the one from the cable company. That thing somehow gave me all kinds of adds.

I have this satellite service also that is super fast.

Aloha!
 

CaptainS

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I've noticed that Adblock can cause some pages to load much slower - maybe the page is waiting for an ad that never loads? Dealnews.com is like that.
 

spokepoker

Hummingbird
Just load up on ad blocking and widget blocking addons on your browser.
I use ghostery, ublock origin, adblocker ultimate, and edited code in the browser (googled it first) to disable autoplay on all media on all sites. I hate autoplay.
 

Wreckingball

Pelican
Catholic
Get a decent browser: Firefox, or Opera.
Download ublock origin and either privacy badger or disconnect.

They will sometimes fuck up a page (VERY RARELY).
Boosts speed, stops bleeding from your eyes with all the shit.

For facebook use facebook purity.
 

The Beast1

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Hehe, so after talking to the OP over PM it came to my attention that this he was hoping to get a discussion on net neutrality going as his machine is functioning pretty fine.

I had a good laugh. Pretty sure most on this forum are darn tech savvy if not working in some form of IT.

As for net neutrality, the only time i've ever been affected by net neutrality would be when I was torrenting over a cable ISP in the US. You could watch the speeds drop very quickly. I think simple encryption solved this issue, but it's been years not sure how I got around it.
 

Mercenary

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This isn't an issue with a specific machine I'm using, rather an overall problem I have noticed in the past 5 years on multiple devices I use both at home, at work, and in other countries (internet cafes, hotel computers, laptops & smartphones my friends abroad have, etc)

A lot of the advice here is sound and helpful and I appreciate everyone's very smart suggestions which I will implement, but the fact that we have to constantly change and update computers & browsers, use anti viruses and firewalls, and download a bunch of add-ons to block scripts, videos and gifs just shows how bad the situation has become.

Most guys in the 15 to 50 year age range are pretty tech savy....but try explaining this to your parents or girlfriend over the phone when they have problems opening a website. Anyone who has tried this knows how difficult and frustrating it is.

My point here is that a lot of important information is becoming inaccessible to those who aren't really tech savy....which means most females and most senior citizens.

Also, another important aspect of this....when I travel abroad where bandwidth and internet connections are weaker, no amount of modern devices, add-ons and script blockers is going to help me get access to the websites I want. So we live in a world where even in countries with men that have the relevant tech knowledge, still cannot access a lot of the information out there.

While the established powers have not been able to undo net neutrality in a "de-jure" sense (by law) they are destroying it in a "de-facto" sense (in reality).
 

Glaucon

Ostrich
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Try brave browser.

Also I stopped applying updates to anything unless I absolutely need to, the quality of software have gone down big time in the last few years. Every update slow down/introduces new bugs. I am already afraid of the time when I have to install a newer windows than win 7....
 

DaveR

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Mercenary said:
Also, another important aspect of this....when I travel abroad where bandwidth and internet connections are weaker, no amount of modern devices, add-ons and script blockers is going to help me get access to the websites I want. So we live in a world where even in countries with men that have the relevant tech knowledge, still cannot access a lot of the information out there.

What does this mean? Most sites I know that provide important information are not the ones clinging to advertising-based revenue streams. The reason mainstream media sites are slow is that they're packed full of spyware, adware, and social media, which are their main revenue sources today. That they are dying is a positive in my opinion.

Roosh has been able to make a living by providing useful content that people are willing to pay for. Would be interesting to hear what his revenue split is, i.e. advertising vs. other kinds (books, subscriptions, memberships, etc.).


Mercenary said:
While the established powers have not been able to undo net neutrality in a "de-jure" sense (by law) they are destroying it in a "de-facto" sense (in reality).

Net neutrality is about ISPs and/or governments blocking, rate limiting ('shaping'), or providing preferential access to certain resources. Is that what you had in mind? Nothing in this thread has demonstrated any interference of that nature.
 

hv123

Woodpecker
Mercenary said:
This isn't an issue with a specific machine I'm using, rather an overall problem I have noticed in the past 5 years on multiple devices I use both at home, at work, and in other countries (internet cafes, hotel computers, laptops & smartphones my friends abroad have, etc)

A lot of the advice here is sound and helpful and I appreciate everyone's very smart suggestions which I will implement, but the fact that we have to constantly change and update computers & browsers, use anti viruses and firewalls, and download a bunch of add-ons to block scripts, videos and gifs just shows how bad the situation has become.

Most guys in the 15 to 50 year age range are pretty tech savy....but try explaining this to your parents or girlfriend over the phone when they have problems opening a website. Anyone who has tried this knows how difficult and frustrating it is.

My point here is that a lot of important information is becoming inaccessible to those who aren't really tech savy....which means most females and most senior citizens.

Also, another important aspect of this....when I travel abroad where bandwidth and internet connections are weaker, no amount of modern devices, add-ons and script blockers is going to help me get access to the websites I want. So we live in a world where even in countries with men that have the relevant tech knowledge, still cannot access a lot of the information out there.

While the established powers have not been able to undo net neutrality in a "de-jure" sense (by law) they are destroying it in a "de-facto" sense (in reality).

It's just bloatware. A web page is several megabytes now.

Without wanting to sound like an old git, how often do new things actually make your life easier nowadays? New cars are just a huge fest of alarms and computer control that won't start the car unless you have filled in 3 risk assessment forms in triplicate while patting your head and rubbing your belly. Even the shower won't go hot without you having to bypass the "safety" feature.

It seems like everything is just geared up to cause maximum annoyance. Fuck you can't even get a bag for your shopping without having to pay for it in the UK now.
 

John_Galt

 
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la bodhisattva said:
I've noticed that ROK runs like shit on Chrome (yes, Chrome, I know). DailyWire and Breitbart also lag like hell. It's made me suspicious.

ROK is filled with pop-ups and various other intrusive ads. All that extra data requires a lot more bandwith and CPU from your computer.

Ad-block helps it load MUCH faster.
 

sterling_archer

Hummingbird
I use mozilla with adblock plus addon. Best browsing experience I ever had, I even forget commercials exist. ROK is super fast, also these various torrent websites.
 
XPQ22 said:
Install the latest Xubuntu and Chrome with Adblock on a three year old $150 laptop, and you can have 25 tabs of modern garbage-plugin-filled websites up with no trouble at all, and your chances of being pwned by 'sploits are slim to none, even with no additional effort. Slap a $49 256 gig solid state drive in there and enjoy going from cold to a fully functional desktop in about 12 seconds.

Unless you do music production or graphic design, or play a ton of vidja games (which you really shouldn't), there isn't much reason to use Windows anymore. And it's easy to set up a dual boot if you absolutely must sometimes.

Tried Ubuntu recently, much better than I thought, has some annoyances though such as having to type password every time you run a program.
 
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