Irish girl goes to India to find herself, gets raped and killed

[nomadbrah]

They never learn.

 

[onetouch]

She was a rough looking 28. She didn't deserve to die in a third world dump but I can't fathom why she would go in the first place. Maybe because it is home to all the trendy leftists religions.

The Irish love to travel.

 

[Simeon_Strangelight]

My guess is that like so many Western girls was she mistaken about the romantic version of India.

An ex-girlfriend of mine (a redhead) also travelled through India and China. She had high expectations for India - all of them ended in disappointment as too many men constantly hit on her. She did not feel very safe at all. Also the filth really made a bad impresson on her.

In contrast she was surprised by the Chinese people in the areas she travelled. She expected the usual liberal bullshit of the oppressive Chinese and the spiritual Indians. It was more the opposite - she felt 100 times safer in China and the people were nicer to her.

Women will always test their expectations, but looking at it exactly - she chose to hang out with a more Alpha criminal than with intelligent, but boring IT nerds.

The usual high price being paid for liberal moronic expectations and for careless female behavior. India is still very poor, primitive at times and dangerous. There are Westernized areas with more Westernized folk, but this is not one of them.

Reminds me of this Italian artist who went hitch-hiking to prove another point:

What likely happened with the Irish girl was that she did not want to have sex with him while going to a beach with the guy. Either way - she will know better in her next life.

 

[Chris Brown]

Women are stupid.

 

[WalterBlack]

That is really unfortunate. There should be an immediate travel ban of all unmarried western women to India. On a more serious note, it's unfortunately unsurprising to see naive girls travel to unsafe places in the name of being "free spirited" or "finding themselves."

The average Indian family doesn't let women travel on their own anywhere. Given what's happened to the Irish woman, I guess we can see why.

Western women have this dumb romantic view of India being a spiritual place - there some spiritual people in India, but the amount of evil bastards outnumbers them greatly. Additionally, due to the fucked up sexual dynamics, there's a lot of thirst there. If any woman ever tells me she wants to visit India, the first thing I say is "go with a man". A fat blonde 5 I used to work in UK with told me she escaped getting raped in India by kicking a guy in the balls and running away.

A lot of the so calls spiritual men are fake too - There is so called "holy man" in Punjab near my ancestral village who is notorious for banging other men's wives.

The article quotes a local man saying "We didn't pay her much attention as it is a common sight to see foreigners with Indian men." I think it's safe to say he means female foreigners with Indian men, not the other way around. Indian friends of mine have pointed out that if I were to go to India, I should not expect to get laid at all, since girls in India are locked down and not like western sluts.

Indian culture is all about "honour" (or "face" in Chinese terms), and one way way this is shown is in the behaviour the women in the family. If the daughter is seen by the wider community to be a slut, then the value of the family is shit, and nobody will ever want to marry into that family. Indian families don't like unrelated men anywhere near their women.

Even a guy like me (a British Indian), could get killed for approaching women in India.

Rape is part of Indian culture - High caste Hindus would humiliate lower caste women by raping them. Foreign women are considered to have no value to many Indians, so you can see how things turn out.

Because when Asians travel they do it the safe and touristy way. They travel in groups, never mingle with the locals, and stay in nice ethnically-friendly hotels and resorts. They just take a shit load of pictures then GTFO.

There are some Japanese girls, often dressed in the same hippie fashion like this Irish woman, who do the exact same thing- go to Africa or India by themselves and explore around. And a number of them end up getting raped and killed also.

I sat next to one on a plane from India to Japan a couple of years ago. She went to visit Hindu Ashrams and she worshiped a Hindu temple in Tokyo. She told me she had a good time in India. Some Asian-American women travel to Africa or India for experiences too.

Unfortunately, shit like this happens:

5 men arrested in India over alleged rape, extortion of Japanese tourist

Five men have been arrested in India over the alleged rape of a Japanese tourist, police in the city of Kolkata told CNN.

The men allegedly operated as a gang, targeting single, female Japanese tourists.

According to Pallab Kanti Ghosh, joint police commissioner in Kolkata, the victim, a 22 year-old from Saitama, Japan, was approached on November 20 of last year by a man who spoke Japanese "very well," and convinced her to accompany him and a friend to a variety of tourist spots over the following days.

Two suspects were arrested from near the Buddhist pilgrimage center of Gaya in neighboring Bihar state and charged with rape, the officer said. Three other men were arrested for criminal conspiracy. The arrests were made on January 1.

"The victim is cooperating with us in our investigation," he said.
The victim told police that she had also been forced to remove money from her bank accounts, and that the men had also withdrawn money using her ATM card without her knowledge.

The initial "First Information Report (FIR)" complaint filed with Kolkata police, obtained by CNN, focuses mainly on the extortion and theft of a sum of 76,000 rupees ($1,200) over several incidents. The charges were later amended to include rape.

Japanese tourist raped in south Indian town

NEW DELHI, India—A man was arrested Sunday for allegedly raping a Japanese tourist at a popular beach resort in southern India, in the latest case of sexual assault against a visitor.

The 35-year-old woman was found bleeding by hotel staff in the town of Kovalam early Sunday and is undergoing treatment at a hospital in the Kerala state capital Thiruvananthapuram.

The woman sustained internal injuries but doctors have declared her out of danger.

Police identified the accused as a 25-year-old whose family runs a handicrafts store in the tourist hotspot.

“He has been sent to judicial custody and we are waiting for the victim to recover to record her full statement,” local police officer Vipin Kumar told AFP.

Japanese officials in New Delhi have been informed about the incident, he said.

The woman came to India two weeks ago and arrived in the beach town on Saturday, hours before the alleged assault took place.

It was unclear how the two met, police said.

Sexual attacks on tourists in India are widespread, with several western countries warning visitors about the risk.

Last year a Japanese woman was drugged and raped by a tourist guide in the western city of Jaipur, less than a month after six men gang-raped a 22-year-old Japanese tourist in the eastern city of Kolkata.

Japanese tourist says raped by India tour guide

A Japanese woman has accused an Indian tour guide of drugging and then raping her in the historic city of Jaipur, police said on Monday, the latest in a series of sex attacks on foreigners.

The 20-year-old said the guide offered to show her around Jaipur, famous for its grand palaces and forts, on Sunday before assaulting her on the outskirts of the "Pink City" in the evening.

The woman said she was given food laced with drugs before being attacked by the man thought to be aged about 25, Dharam Chand Jain, police inspector-general for Jaipur district, told AFP.

"The 20-year-old tourist had arrived in Jaipur yesterday (Sunday) and met the accused man near the hotel who introduced himself as a tour guide," Mr Jain said.

"They went to a couple of places on his motorbike during the day," Mr Jain said.

"The accused offered to drop her at the hotel in the evening but took her to a desolate area ... and allegedly raped her."

The man fled after the woman's screams were overheard by villagers who rushed to help, according to local media reports.

"The tourist alleged that she was offered some food which might have been laced with drugs," Mr Jain said, adding that blood tests have been conducted to determine the type of drugs used.

Hotel manager confesses to raping Korean tourist in Bandhavgarh

Bhopal: The manager of a resort in Madhya Pradesh's Bandhavgarh tiger reserve has reportedly confessed that he raped a South Korean student holidaying there.

The manager, Deepak Vishwakarma, told the police that he raped the 23-year-old student on January 14.

The student, who is in India on tourist visa was on a visit to the national park, has alleged that her drink had been spiked following which she was raped. She had been staying at a resort owned by the son of a BJP MLA from the state.

The girl filed the complaint in Aurangabad, Maharashtra after more than two weeks. Inspector Prakash Kulkarni, from Aurangabad, said she was traumatised and hesitant in reporting the case immediately.

The police, along with the student, reached Bandhavgarh on Friday night and arrested the manager who admitted to the heinous crime. The South Korean student will undergo a medical test today to confirm rape.

Save our girls, says China to India after rape

The Chinese national, who was working as a trainee at a Gurgaon firm, alleged in her complaint that the man called her to his home on January 30 where he raped her.

In her complaint, the girl said she met Tariq Sheikh, 28, at a party sometime back. The girl alleged that she was raped by Sheikh on that night (January 30) but approached police only on Tuesday after which the accused was arrested.

Sheikh, a party organiser, was produced before a local court which sent him to 14-day judicial custody.

Some governments have wised up:

'If you are female... do not travel to India': Japan and China warn tourists to stay away after Bodh Gaya attack

Government-backed travel agencies in Japan and China are issuing fresh warnings to travellers against visiting India, after a Japanese researcher was abducted and raped by five men in Bodh Gaya last month.

Travel agencies in Japan and China - two of the biggest sources of tourists along what is known as the Buddhist pilgrimage route - have warned passengers against undertaking all non-essential travel to India, after news of the horrific rape and weeks-long abduction of a Japanese researcher triggered alarm and concern in both countries.

While the case has received relatively limited attention in India, it has been widely covered by media in Japan and China.

Reporting on the arrests of five men over the case, the Japan Times said the 22-year-old woman was a researcher who was studying in India and was interested in undertaking a pilgrimage to Bodh Gaya.

She was kept captive for as long as three weeks in a village near the holy town, before escaping on December 26 and travelling to Kolkata, where she contacted the Japanese Consulate, the newspaper reported.

Kunikatsu Hayami, the Executive Managing Director of the Overseas Tour Operators Association of Japan (OTOA), the country’s most influential travel body, told Mail Today the case had been “widely reported” in Japan and had generated “concern”.

In China, where there is also a huge interest in travel to Buddhism-related sites in India, agents at the official China Travel Service (CTS) have cautioned female travellers against visiting India.

“If you are female, even as a group, we advise you do not travel to India unless absolutely necessary,” an agent who gave his last name as Yang told Mail Today.

“Few travel agencies in China now offer travel packages to India because not so many people are willing to go there. Safety is a big concern, especially for women,” the agent said.

Seems like a few of the guys had at least some game, in that they could get the women to hang out with them for some time. If they weren't so fucking thirsty they may have got the bang anyway through gaming her instead of raping.

Game Saves Lives.

 

[Gmac]

Strong thread title, methinks Twitter will have a field day with this.

Article itself didn't have such a strong title. I've re-titled Roosh's slightly and spit it back out into the twitterverse.

 

[nomadbrah]

Western women don't seem to understand that some non-western men have a crippling inability to deal with negative emotion because they grow up as little lord Fauntleroys partly protected and spoiled by their family females, partly never learn to handle rejection because of the same crippling fear of losing face. Being dumped by a woman or being cheated on is a big loss of face, particularly when done in the casual manner that western women have become accustomed to. Add to that the White Godess complex and you get an explosion of rage. Someone should have told her, but no one did.

 

[Parzival]

How come we never hear about Asian women doing this kind of thing?

Asian girls are scared to go to Germany after several rapes happen to them commit by refugees. Also a German couple just did rape, torture and murder a Chinese exchange student. It happen to them as well. Asians are also the victims in France.

When I was in India I've seen quite a few of those girls that want to "experience something real". I always wonder why some people consider it real when you have no access to clean water, to a toilet or electricity.
Also most western girls don't know how they are seen outside of the west. As sluts, whores and fuck toys. Indian, Arab and similar kind of men thing they have orgies and gangbangs all day long. When those men realise this is not true and they get rejection by those girls their anger and frustration rise. In their cultures they are the "man" even when just a loser there. Unable to get one of those "easy" western sluts, they then just rape.

 

[Belgrano]

How come we never hear about Asian women doing this kind of thing?

They know that India is a third world dump, and they have better versions of the same religion, whereas women in the west are spiritual empty shells that have been stripped bare of their Christian faith two generations ago. Because of this, young western women have the most easily malleable minds.

Trust me, the colossal naivety and unfathomable idiocy of unworldly East Asian tourists and travellers has no match. Not even young Western white women can compete with that, believe me.

"I've been traveling"
"Cool, where did you go?"
"I go to Afghanistan, look, I took many pictures with the funny bearded men. So nice! Then I cross border to Pakistan and hitchhike around country. Such beautiful nature and different culture. I had a great time!"
"Uh, isn't that a bit dangerous?"
"Dangerous? No, why? Is perfectly fine!"

Happens more often than you think.
Sometimes I wonder if their legendary nuttiness so bewilders, dumbfounds and stuns the local terrorists, thugs and other predators of whatever third world shithole our blissfully unaware Asian tourist happpens to be in, that most of those somnambulistic Confucian maniacs get away and escape the often life-threatening danger they had absolutely zero awareness of being in.
For lots of them everything outside their own countries is one big Disneyland.

India is way more safe than Africa.

Africa is huge.
Outside of war and conflict zones, I'd say there's not much difference between India and sub-Saharan Africa.

 

[Rocha]

Reminds me of this Italian artist who went hitch-hiking to prove another point:

And she did not even made it to the Middle east, she was killed in the outskirts of Istanbul...

 

[Parzival]

Reminds me of this Italian artist who went hitch-hiking to prove another point:

And she did not even made it to the Middle east, she was killed in the outskirts of Istanbul...

...where the land of Mordor already starts...

 

[Newguy101]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#Rape_statistics_by_country

The data says otherwise then what local feminists say.
Per captia its tied with canada.
For a shithole it has very low crime rate comapred to tbe americas and africa

 

[Newguy101]

This. Japanese tourists are lile bunnys overseas. One was killed here on her first week in the woods wgen she met some random dude. Think it was a whute guy but dont kniw if did it.

But dam people that coddled you wonder how they survive overseas

 

[Newguy101]

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...-2013-false-delhi-commission-of-women-2023334

Femism is quite strong there espuceally after the gang rape on the bus. Now new laws find more then half are false accusations.
That chinese girl must be lying if she waited till tuesday. On the high status party organizor

 

[nomadbrah]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#Rape_statistics_by_country

The data says otherwise then what local feminists say.
Per captia its tied with canada.
For a shithole it has very low crime rate comapred to tbe americas and africa

This. Japanese tourists are lile bunnys overseas. One was killed here on her first week in the woods wgen she met some random dude. Think it was a whute guy but dont kniw if did it.

But dam people that coddled you wonder how they survive overseas

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...-2013-false-delhi-commission-of-women-2023334

Femism is quite strong there espuceally after the gang rape on the bus. Now new laws find more then half are false accusations.
That chinese girl must be lying if she waited till tuesday. On the high status party organizor

Grammar.

 

[Leonard D Neubache]

Yeah, I'm looking at this thinking that she thought she could cocktease third-worlders the way she did with first-worlders and found out the hard way that "they don't take kindly to that kind of behaviour around there".

If she had any sense she'd wonder why she didn't see any of the local women running around acting like fucking idiots with men they barely knew.

As a man, if I visited a place where everyone had guns I might sense the need for a gun. If I visited a place where nobody drank the water from the tap I would abstain from drinking the water from the tap. And if I were a woman and I visited a place where the local women appeared chaste and took caution to avoid unknown men, I would take that as a pretty fucking obvious sign that I should do likewise.

 

[WalterBlack]

SLAIN TEEN COURT BID Indian cops launch new bid to find killer of murdered British teen Scarlett Keeling

INDIAN police are launching a new bid to nail the killer of Brit Scarlett Keeling, 15, who was found with 50 injuries in Goa in 2008.

Locals Samson D’Souza, 36, and Placido Carvalho, 47, were last year cleared after a string of police blunders.

The Indian Central Bureau of Investigation is tabling an appeal at Mumbai’s High Court.

After hearing of Danielle McLaughlin’s murder, Scarlett’s mum Fiona Mackeown, of Bideford, Devon, said: “It is horrific.

“My heart breaks for her family and friends.

“I know what they are going through.

“It really makes my heart sink.

“I just feel so sad for her mum, siblings and friends.”

“Goa will not be safe until there is stiffer punishment for rapists and a change in attitude from men.”


In 2013, Czech Narkela Horka, 24, was found murdered in a guest house at Baga beach village in Goa.

So what kind of girl was Scarlett Keeling? [article from 2008]

Scarlett Keeling's diary reveals her sex, drink and drugs lifestyle

The British teenager murdered in India last month kept a diary in which she told how she experimented with sex, drugs and alcohol in the days before her death.

Scarlett Keeling, 15, begins her diary as the family prepare for a six-month trip of a lifetime to India and ends shortly before her death with the words "I'm stuk [sic]" and "I want to go home".

She talks of taking hallucinogenic drugs and having sex in Britain and with someone she met in Goa.

The diary emerged as her mother disclosed that Scarlett was living alone in a guest house in the days before her death and not with the family of the tour guide entrusted with her care.

It also graphically describes how, despite being under-age, she was sexually active.

She describes how she met and had sex with Julio Lobo, a tour guide, at a ''full moon" party soon after the family arrived in Goa.

The diary becomes progressively darker as Scarlett's state of mind appears to deteriorate.

Her last entry, entered beside a doodle of a hangman, says: "I rele rele don't know what to do. I wish something big would happen to make my decision final."

Meanwhile, a British tourist in Goa told the BBC that he saw Scarlett on the beach with a man whom he named as Samson D'Souza, one of two men arrested by local police on the night she was killed.

Michael Mannion, 35, from London, said he had seen and spoken to Scarlett earlier in a bar and she looked intoxicated and was staggering as she spoke to three local men.

He said he saw Scarlett leave the bar at 5am with a man and five minutes later he also left the bar and saw the man Scarlett left with drive off on his scooter.

Mr Mannion said: "In the light of the front beam of his scooter, I saw Samson D'Souza on top of Scarlett. I was in a complete state of total panic, shock. I got on my bike and I rode off."

Miss MacKeown has always denied negligence in leaving her 15-year-old daughter to fend for herself with people she hardly knew and without money or a mobile phone.

She has always maintained that her daughter had been left in the care of Mr Lobo, a 25-year-old tour guide and his aunt at their home in Siolim, while she travelled in neighbouring states with her boyfriend and six other children.

"On one of Scarlett's trips from Anjuna to visit the family, she let slip something about a room key," Miss MacKeown said. "I said, 'What do you mean, room key?' She said she'd had a row with Julio's aunt, and had to move to a guest house."

On Saturday, Miss MacKeown answered a summons from police to give a statement about the circumstances surrounding her daughter's death.

But after the interview at Panjim police station's special juvenile unit, her lawyer, Vikram Varma said the police had assured Miss MacKeown that there were no plans to bring neglect charges, adding that she was being questioned as a witness, not a suspect.

While denying negligence, Miss MacKeown said she had been "naïve, and too trusting". In India, "failing to provide a secure environment to a minor" carries a six month jail term.

In an entry one week before Scarlett and her family left England to go to India, last November, she wrote:

"Went to see a mates a last time and then I'm off to India for six months. I'm getting excited. I went to a party last night, got drunk, stoned and was trippin on mushies.

SKAZ x"

After the rest of her family leave to tour other parts of India, Scarlett appears to be embracing the wilder side of Goa:

"At the full moon party I met this guy, Julio. I was pretty messed up, like I had taken a pill and drunk a lot of vodka. I don't remember that much but it took like two weeks b4 me and Julio were hangin out regularly."

By her penultimate entry Scarlett seems distressed and says she wants to go home:

"I think [Julio] is just using me, he says he loves me but I don't think so. He treats me like I'm only with him 4 his money or sex. I want to go home, but I'm stuk"

Her final, undated, entry is accompanied by a picture of a gallows:

"I rele rele don't know what to do. I wish something big would happen to make my decision final."

Here's a picture of the mother - a picture tells a thousand words:

More about Scarlett's mother

"The mother should have taken care of the child, since she was a minor," explained Digambar Kamat, the chief minister of Goa.

"She left a minor girl in someone else's custody. Tourists should be more responsible and careful."

At the time of her death Scarlett was staying in the hippy beach resort of Anjuna on her own. Her family had set off to explore a neighbouring province for a few weeks and she hadn't wanted to go with them.

Her mother had given in to her, allowing her to stay in the 'care' of 25-year-old tour guide Julio Lobo.

As it turned out, her faith in him was misplaced. The pair were sleeping together and on her last night he allowed Scarlett to go out on her own when she consumed a frightening cocktail of drink and drugs - LSD, ecstasy and cocaine.

Nevertheless, Fiona insists that the fatal attack to which Scarlett was subsequently subjected was in no way her fault - and that the Indian police are just trying to divert attention, to pass the buck.

"I feel responsible for being naive and too trusting," was all she would say. "I certainly do not feel I was negligent."

Naivety or negligence? Some would argue that that question goes to the heart of not just this sorry tale but Fiona's lifestyle in the round.

She has nine children born to five different men, none of whom plays a day-to-day roll in their upbringing; the family's only discernible income is from state benefits; her older children, educated largely at home, drink and, in Scarlett's case, take drugs; and her eldest son, just 19, was left behind in Devon only to break his neck in a mystery car accident currently being investigated by British police.

Most worrying of all, however, is the testimony of a 16-year-old girl who was with Scarlett hours before she died. Talking for the first time, she reveals how desperate the girl felt in her mother's absence.

"Scarlett suddenly blurted out that she was sleeping with Julio," the teenager recalled of that fateful night.

"She said she didn't really like him but she was doing it because it meant she had food, transport and a roof over her head.

"She said it in a really emotionless way as if it was something she'd accepted and was just getting on with - I just think Scarlett felt sleeping with Julio was the only option for her."

 

[Kabal]

This is a tragedy, but zero sympathy from me.

As they say, "Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes."

I do not allow any female family members to travel without male-companionship, nor do my other male family members.

My female family members have never combated this precept; deep down... they know.

And this is to first-world areas; much less that of developing nations.

Caveat emptor, bitches.

Let this Irish red-head lass's mis-steps be a lesson.

 

[Ranch Hand]

This is a tragedy, but zero sympathy from me.

As they say, "Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes."
---
Caveat emptor, bitches.

Let this Irish red-head lass's mis-steps be a lesson.

I knew an Aussie Army Officer that worked de-mining in Afghanistan in the early 90s. Out in the boonies he warned two Brit women to turn back. He knew the 8th century inbreeds he was working with would not be gentle with their new visitors. The women went on anyway, of course.

2 months later a British Embassy/Consulate Officer was looking for the women. Turns out he was the last civilized person to see them alive.

 

[Cobra]

I'm not sure blaming it on India and calling it a shit hole gets to the real issue here. India has a lot to offer culturally and there are ways to experience it in an enjoyable way, even for white women like our subject.

India is a conservative society period. Way more conservative than many other similar countries. The fact that she is a western woman didn't get her raped. The fact that she didn't have common sense and male companionship did. Add on top her open and slutty liberal demeanor as well as bad company and she got killed. Indian women that remotely exhibit any of these traits are also at similar risk hanging with similar company. You make yourself stand out flaunting yourself in such a society, there are consequences.

I'm from India, although if I went back today, I'd be sized up and labelled an outsider immediately. That said, I know there are shit holes in India and good places. It's NOT hard to know the difference.

When I was there a few years ago, I knew some fairly attractive white women in the New Delhi area that didn't do dumb shit so they didn't get killed. It also wasn't a shithole there. They knew better because they were in good company. :wink:

It seems also that she hung out with the creepiest IRTs possible. I bet the smooth criminal saw this shit and said "oh look a fresh, dumb one." The rest, unfortunately didn't end well. Reason I bring this up is that I know that India is not just full of these creepy dudes. There are more self respecting men there that if she was in their company, would have been fine. For example, when the white girls were with me, the IRTs wouldn't even try to come close.

This chick went dumpster diving. Similar to a 9 with DDs walking into the South side or Baltimore's ghetto after midnight. I wouldn't call all of US a shithole for that though.