Thread takes usual turn.
Jetlagged said:
Ok, so my experience in India is considered no good by the forum.
Police deputy was fired, investigators were fired for inaction, and an entire city shut down and went to protest the un punished and un investigated rape of a 6 year old girl by her school staff.
But my experiences mean nothing.
I did see one example of father killing his daughters rapist however, you may be right there. It was littered amongst all the other rape cases.
I think what you're calling "experience" is being in India and seeing some protests and events as a third party. Or maybe you were just reading the newspapers. Just doesn't appear that you have lived the experience to understand the nuances of how this culture operates. This is fine, but I would also refrain from calling that
experience.
In regards to "rape culture," in India, yes that shit is real but not that real. Let me tell you what is real as someone that's grown up in that culture. hwuzhere is right. When I was growing up, one of the values that were instilled in me was that if someone in my family gets raped, I sure as hell will kill that person. It's a value the entire community held dear. It protected that community. It was a code. Communities there, especially middle class, are very transparent. Shit goes down, the neighborhood will know. Someone does strange shit, the neighborhood will know. Contrast that to an American suburb where I don't see some neighbors for months on out. Who knows who got raped.
So yes, it's a big deal in India. HUGE. However, that still doesn't mean it happens at a certain level of frequency, especially given the tight knit communities, and internal policing. Remember, the cops there can be corrupt too so this internal policing is all but necessary. As far as repercussions, while in the USA, you can wait for a fair trial, over there you may part with your precious nuts, Judge Dredd style. And remember, cops likely will not give a shit since it was rape and they take it seriously (or not). Remember it works both ways.
And big cities in India, I wouldn't be so quick to call them so conservative. There are enough clubs in Delhi and Mumbai that will see girls slutted out. The control here are the cockblocks (men/friends that accompany them for "security"). Women who dress provocatively come with impending cockblocks. Again contrast with the USA where security is more or less formal not personal.
Broady said:
Nightwing said:
This is their culture! Why should a white woman, wherever she goes, tell people what to do? Why did he have to apologize?
Let the man jerk.
I agree, who are we to tell them to stop wanking.
If their culture is about wanking, then let them be wankers.
This is the thing about the forum and the world at large. Everyone thinks the "culture" is this and the culture is that. That's the power of news propaganda. It's like some guy in the grizzly mountains of Montana in the USA rapes some city boy from the East Coast. Why shouldn't we say, if their culture is gay, let them be flamers then. But, we don't have such stories in the news. And Montana is not full of gay people that rape.
Again thread takes usual turn into "race" territory. Subtle yet all too familiar.