Cobra said:
There was a lot of intellectual masturbation in that post.
But let me try again..
Do you think it's ok for a dude to jack off to a chick in public who has done nothing to lead him on?
Either you're trolling. Or you need a shrink.
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There was a lot of intellectual masturbation in that post.
But let me try again..
Do you think it's ok for a dude to jack off to a chick in public who has done nothing to lead him on?
Either you're trolling. Or you need a shrink.
The Ligurian said:
To be completely honest, the arguments of people like Slim Shady and Cobra sound like bullcrap to me. I'm Indian-American, and while I've never lived in India, the stories I've heard from my family are enough to convince me that India has a real rape culture and genuine issues regarding its treatment of women. India's a place where brides get burned to death in their kitchens because their dowry wasn't big enough. I've clocked a guy on the Mumbai metro for trying to grope one of my cousins. It's a great place to visit for historical and cultural tourism, but it absolutely isn't safe for women. We shouldn't let our distaste for third-wave feminism color our attitudes towards societies where women face genuine harassment and degradation.
^What a refreshing respective...
You see, that's honesty. I'm an American that can freely admit my country is largely a wasteland of pot-bellied femenazis.
Indians guys should be able to own the fact that there's a legit problem in their country regarding how they treat women. Well done, Agastya.
You see, that's honesty. I'm an American that can freely admit my country is largely a wasteland of pot-bellied femenazis.
Indians guys should be able to own the fact that there's a legit problem in their country regarding how they treat women. Well done, Agastya.
Agastya said:
Agreed.
I don't get why Cobra and Slim are so insistent upon defending India. India 100 percent has real issues with sexual harassment. It also is a very repressed country and huge portions of the population hold completely fucked up beliefs about sex and women.
I have no loyalty towards a culture that's so completely fucked in so many regards. Despite all the issues in the West, cities like Toronto and D.C are vastly superior to most Indian cities.
Does anybody know how severe sexual harassment is in China?
I found this. Which seems to suggest that China has its own problems.
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-24021573
I found this too.
I found this. Which seems to suggest that China has its own problems.
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-24021573
I found this too.
India does not have a rape problem any more than most of the countries in the world.
White women go to India all the time and are not raped. Please read my earlier posts in this thread.
This does not mean that rape does not happen. Ofcourse it does. Norway has a bigger rape problem than India does. There is reality, and then there is what the western media tells you. Don't be fooled.
There is a new movie out called "The Hunting Ground" made by two fat white feminists about American Universities. It's getting a lot of press. If I believed it, then I would think that American Universities were literal hunting grounds for rapists. Obviously they are not.
Why is this so difficult to recognize?
If 1 in 4 girls are raped on American college campuses, well that number is a lot larger than the percentage of rapes in India, which apparently has a rape epidemic. So let's work on fixing the rape epidemic in America first, before we move on to India.
White women go to India all the time and are not raped. Please read my earlier posts in this thread.
This does not mean that rape does not happen. Ofcourse it does. Norway has a bigger rape problem than India does. There is reality, and then there is what the western media tells you. Don't be fooled.
There is a new movie out called "The Hunting Ground" made by two fat white feminists about American Universities. It's getting a lot of press. If I believed it, then I would think that American Universities were literal hunting grounds for rapists. Obviously they are not.
Why is this so difficult to recognize?
If 1 in 4 girls are raped on American college campuses, well that number is a lot larger than the percentage of rapes in India, which apparently has a rape epidemic. So let's work on fixing the rape epidemic in America first, before we move on to India.
Tell me you're not citing "1 in 5 college students are raped" with a straight face. Hell, for extra dishonesty you made it "1 in 4."
India is the only country I've heard of where white female graduate students are given a packet about tips to survive the constant harassment they can expect while conducting research there, e.g. palm an open safety pin while riding the bus to stab gropers. Because thirsty Indians gonna grope.
India is the only country I've heard of where white female graduate students are given a packet about tips to survive the constant harassment they can expect while conducting research there, e.g. palm an open safety pin while riding the bus to stab gropers. Because thirsty Indians gonna grope.
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India is not Pakistan.
If you are going to believe what the western media tells you about India, you should also believe what it tells you about the US.
You should believe that 1 in 4 college girls are raped. That stat fluctuates between 1 in 5, and 1 in 4 quite freely. It's THAT bullshit. Feminists cite one or the other based on how they're feeling that day.
That's a lot higher than in India.
I have never said that women are not harassed. I have been on the streets. I have traveled "without ticket" on a 24 hour train journey from Agra to Mumbai. I've been to Chandni Chowk, and I've been to villages.
I am, however, sad that you had a bad experience on your trip to India.
Read my first post in this thread: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-47676-post-1027153.html#pid1027153
If you are going to believe what the western media tells you about India, you should also believe what it tells you about the US.
You should believe that 1 in 4 college girls are raped. That stat fluctuates between 1 in 5, and 1 in 4 quite freely. It's THAT bullshit. Feminists cite one or the other based on how they're feeling that day.
That's a lot higher than in India.
I have never said that women are not harassed. I have been on the streets. I have traveled "without ticket" on a 24 hour train journey from Agra to Mumbai. I've been to Chandni Chowk, and I've been to villages.
I am, however, sad that you had a bad experience on your trip to India.
Read my first post in this thread: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-47676-post-1027153.html#pid1027153
Agastya said:
Come on man, you could have disagreed politely.
This post has a lot more "likes" than my posts or those of Cobra.
However this post is not based on facts, but on trying to fit facts to a medieval narrative fantasy.
Sounds a lot like how American rape culture enthusiasts operate. :angel:
"Why the Focus on 'Rapes in India' by the World Media"
https://mariawirthblog.wordpress.com/2014/01/27/why-this-focus-on-rapes-in-india-by-world-media/
Ran into this post over a year ago by a German lady who has spent quite some time in India.
I think that it is spot on and the people arguing on this thread should read it. I could have posted it in any other IRT thread but had lost the link.
There is a concerted effort to demonize India as a rape haven.
The goals are:
- Trivialize the greatness of traditional Vedic/Hindu culture and make Christianity and Islam look like superior religions.
-Neutralize the greatness of Indian minds and Indian successes because they are a threat to western hegemony.
-Soften up the country for Western feminism to take root. Break down the Hindu traditional family unit to open up the country for free sex, single mothers, and gay parents.
It is difficult to quote just a few highlights from this blog post. Each paragraph is a gem, hitting the false narrative out of the park.
So whose side are you on?
https://mariawirthblog.wordpress.com/2014/01/27/why-this-focus-on-rapes-in-india-by-world-media/
Ran into this post over a year ago by a German lady who has spent quite some time in India.
I think that it is spot on and the people arguing on this thread should read it. I could have posted it in any other IRT thread but had lost the link.
There is a concerted effort to demonize India as a rape haven.
The goals are:
- Trivialize the greatness of traditional Vedic/Hindu culture and make Christianity and Islam look like superior religions.
-Neutralize the greatness of Indian minds and Indian successes because they are a threat to western hegemony.
-Soften up the country for Western feminism to take root. Break down the Hindu traditional family unit to open up the country for free sex, single mothers, and gay parents.
It is difficult to quote just a few highlights from this blog post. Each paragraph is a gem, hitting the false narrative out of the park.
So whose side are you on?
You know what side I'm on; and have always been there. And I hate IRTs more than my western brothers do.
I'd like to quote this gem from the excellent article you quoted Slim and make some comparisons to this very thread as it perfectly explains the incessant trolling I hinted at earlier but couldn't quite put into words yet.
When people like Chick Magnet and Broady were so convinced by the empty facts, some Indians like Agastya (and maybe others that 'liked' the posts) jumped on. Indians trolling Indians. Worst kind. While I would deem the hateful western forum members as masturbators within the thread, I would deem the Indian ones premature ejaculators. Trolling your own background and culture comes at a price. And it's a different level when there are guys that were born to "Indian" parents but never been to India. As if that gives you more liberty to troll Indians from the homeland.
The horrible examples noted in the article came from all sides whether it was rapes, groping, dowries; mostly based on what was "heard" or "read."
In conclusion, the haters now reading Slim Shady's post will have a tough time reconciling the traditional more red pill mindset of the Indian culture to the resentment towards it. That would explain some of the delays in posting as they cannot come up with a rational argument.
That's what differentiates trolling from a discussion. Almost all threads with IRT in the title are bound to troll the forum like a spirit that will wander forever. Like in the real world, hate towards something that was fed through propaganda is real hate. Evidence of that is in the forum. Take note of Nazi Germany. While not the same shit, the narrative has stark and sometimes horrifying similarities veiled in vagueness and journalistic trickery.
I appreciate that Slim and I held our frame throughout and maybe this serves as an example to any of my remaining strong South Asian brothers on the forum, Hindu or not.
I'd like to quote this gem from the excellent article you quoted Slim and make some comparisons to this very thread as it perfectly explains the incessant trolling I hinted at earlier but couldn't quite put into words yet.
When people like Chick Magnet and Broady were so convinced by the empty facts, some Indians like Agastya (and maybe others that 'liked' the posts) jumped on. Indians trolling Indians. Worst kind. While I would deem the hateful western forum members as masturbators within the thread, I would deem the Indian ones premature ejaculators. Trolling your own background and culture comes at a price. And it's a different level when there are guys that were born to "Indian" parents but never been to India. As if that gives you more liberty to troll Indians from the homeland.
The horrible examples noted in the article came from all sides whether it was rapes, groping, dowries; mostly based on what was "heard" or "read."
In conclusion, the haters now reading Slim Shady's post will have a tough time reconciling the traditional more red pill mindset of the Indian culture to the resentment towards it. That would explain some of the delays in posting as they cannot come up with a rational argument.
That's what differentiates trolling from a discussion. Almost all threads with IRT in the title are bound to troll the forum like a spirit that will wander forever. Like in the real world, hate towards something that was fed through propaganda is real hate. Evidence of that is in the forum. Take note of Nazi Germany. While not the same shit, the narrative has stark and sometimes horrifying similarities veiled in vagueness and journalistic trickery.
I appreciate that Slim and I held our frame throughout and maybe this serves as an example to any of my remaining strong South Asian brothers on the forum, Hindu or not.
Ever notice how if a minority does something, then all the people jump out of the wood work and start talking about the (racial) community. We are not a goddamn collective with a hivemind.
Whenever a black guy gets killed by the cops you hear shit like,
"There is a big issue with (X) and (X) in the black community that needs to be addressed!"
Whenever an Indian guy does some stupid, yet harmless shit you hear things like,
"There is a big issue with (X) and (X) in the Indian community that needs to be addressed!"
It's like this with far too many minorities to bother listing more examples. Why are we held accountable for the behavior of our lowest common denominator? Yeah, some there are some fucked up Indians and Blacks but that has nothing to do with many of us. We're not some hive mind. We don't all get togeth and decide to cosign on dumb shit that a couple of guys do.
One Indian weirdo masturbating to some dumb chick is not indicative the mental health of all Indians.
One white man shooting up a theatre doesn't make me say, "OMG! These white people really need to address mental issues within their community! Look what that one white man did there! Look, Look! You can't tell me it didn't happen."
People do weird shit. Get over it and stop casting aspersions about entire groups. There are far too many solid East Asians on this forum for this sort of thing to continue to go down.
Whenever a black guy gets killed by the cops you hear shit like,
"There is a big issue with (X) and (X) in the black community that needs to be addressed!"
Whenever an Indian guy does some stupid, yet harmless shit you hear things like,
"There is a big issue with (X) and (X) in the Indian community that needs to be addressed!"
It's like this with far too many minorities to bother listing more examples. Why are we held accountable for the behavior of our lowest common denominator? Yeah, some there are some fucked up Indians and Blacks but that has nothing to do with many of us. We're not some hive mind. We don't all get togeth and decide to cosign on dumb shit that a couple of guys do.
One Indian weirdo masturbating to some dumb chick is not indicative the mental health of all Indians.
One white man shooting up a theatre doesn't make me say, "OMG! These white people really need to address mental issues within their community! Look what that one white man did there! Look, Look! You can't tell me it didn't happen."
People do weird shit. Get over it and stop casting aspersions about entire groups. There are far too many solid East Asians on this forum for this sort of thing to continue to go down.
Cobra said:
Much ado about nothing.
You still haven't answered my question. Do you think it's OK to jack off to a random chick in public?
You attacked that chick like it was somehow her fault that an IRT violated her.
Stop circle jerking and let's hear your heartfelt perspective on this.
Cobra said:
There are plenty of aspects of Indian culture that I see as far superior to Western culture. India's current poverty and overpopulation are historical novelties. If you read European or Arab travel accounts from before the colonial period, you'll notice that foreigners were awed by Indian wealth, architecture, and military might. The Mughal emperors were among the most powerful men in the world throughout their reign, as were the Guptas, the Mauryas, and the emperors of Vijayanagar. Similarly, I think Indian family values vastly outweigh those of certain western cultures. I love the color of Indian culture, the food, the music, and yes, I love visiting the country itself and witnessing my own heritage.
Every country has its problems. Would you deny America has a problem with obesity and police violence? Would you deny that Apartheid South Africa had a problem with racism? Would you deny that Ciudad Juarez in Mexico has a murder problem, or that Japan has issues with underpopulation and birthrate.
Similarly, I'm justified in pointing out that yes, India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh have issues with rape and violence against women. Dowry burnings don't happen in other countries. Things like acid attacks and female infanticide persist in India. I'm not being an "Uncle Tom" when I point this out. Obviously I don't think that every man in India is an evil, murderous rapist, and I'm fully aware that the idiotic Western media has exaggerated these issues in an attempt to profit off of worldwide Indophobia. These things are still problems, however, and deserve to be treated as such.
If the Indian rape culture thing is exaggerated why is it that every other Indian tourist in Bangkok behaves like this too? It's a well known phenomenon in Southeast asia as well.
Before you mention it i'm not talking about the localized thai indian population or the indians from the U.K./U.S. but the actual indians from india are always causing trouble with groping, leering, and general no game aggro behavior that pisses off locals in whatever asian country they're in at the moment.
Before you mention it i'm not talking about the localized thai indian population or the indians from the U.K./U.S. but the actual indians from india are always causing trouble with groping, leering, and general no game aggro behavior that pisses off locals in whatever asian country they're in at the moment.
Cobra said:
I'm not trolling. I've lived in India when younger and have visited it multiple times.
My life is vastly superior practically everywhere else.
There are positive aspects of Indian culture, such as the food, the history, etc.
However, you can't deny that large parts of the country are extremely backwards. I mean, the caste system still holds strong in many parts of India. How fucked up is that?
Mindsets regarding women, pre-marital sex, dating are pretty primitive outside of bigger cities. Maybe it was Victorian British rule that caused that.
I would not advise an attractive female friend to go to India alone.
In regards to red pill mindsets, have you seen how babied the average Indian man is? I'd say India is many ways very strongly matriarchal. Remember, that India has had female political leaders before. I'd say the IRT behavior is caused by Indian men's upbringing and sexual repression. Very few of these men would be rapists, but plenty of these guys will leer and be very creepy without causing actual physical harm.
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^^True that. Here is the thing that bothers me with alot of my country men from back home in India. While there are good argument from both sides and there is alot of truth from again, both sides. But why do we keep hearing about this shit?
I was born in india but my mother's side is second generation thai/indian and i spent practically all my summers there whenever I could as kid. I never saw this kind of behaviour within my family there. Yet I saw and heard shit alot from other indians . Mostly bad behaviour In public. I saw the haggling, the staring , not any groping though but I think I saw a indian guy arguing with a khatoy(ladyboy) once
can't remember the details.
Alot Indians in india are very sexually frustrated and with bollywood and social pressure. It's always your parents way or the high way. My cousin couldn't marry his Korean girlfriend of 5 years because no other reason that she comes from a asian background. Because they think she is of lower value. Not all familya are the same though.
But why do we keep hearing about this stuff again. It's also about media. They will always highlight the degenerates of society the same way you would see craziest Arab in the middle east instead of some regular guy who's trying to survive.How many of you indian guys as a kids whenever you told someone you were indian they immediately do the accent by apu from the Simpsons. It's the media. Sometimes it's funny other cases it's not. It's makin the stereotype stronger.
The same way we will only hear about the brutal rape cases back there when we could hear about the scientific breakthroughs in astronomy or physics. It's kind of like the inception putting so whenever you hear india you think weird. The same way when we think when think IRT we think "oh he most love white blond women". Maybe there is some truth to it but it also has become somewhat of a stearotype.
I was born in india but my mother's side is second generation thai/indian and i spent practically all my summers there whenever I could as kid. I never saw this kind of behaviour within my family there. Yet I saw and heard shit alot from other indians . Mostly bad behaviour In public. I saw the haggling, the staring , not any groping though but I think I saw a indian guy arguing with a khatoy(ladyboy) once
can't remember the details.Alot Indians in india are very sexually frustrated and with bollywood and social pressure. It's always your parents way or the high way. My cousin couldn't marry his Korean girlfriend of 5 years because no other reason that she comes from a asian background. Because they think she is of lower value. Not all familya are the same though.
But why do we keep hearing about this stuff again. It's also about media. They will always highlight the degenerates of society the same way you would see craziest Arab in the middle east instead of some regular guy who's trying to survive.How many of you indian guys as a kids whenever you told someone you were indian they immediately do the accent by apu from the Simpsons. It's the media. Sometimes it's funny other cases it's not. It's makin the stereotype stronger.
The same way we will only hear about the brutal rape cases back there when we could hear about the scientific breakthroughs in astronomy or physics. It's kind of like the inception putting so whenever you hear india you think weird. The same way when we think when think IRT we think "oh he most love white blond women". Maybe there is some truth to it but it also has become somewhat of a stearotype.
Honestly, I can't say I've ever seen that behavior among Indians in America. They seem too educated for that and are well adjusted. I'd hesitate
to compare better educated immigrants here to the guys back there.
but in Canada, there seem to be a lot of less educated Indians.
I've seen a lot of Indian dudes who acted like that at the clubs in Vancouver and Surrey. Mad aggro, zero game. A lot of them
go around in huge packs. The local white and Asian chicks hate them and call them Surrey Jacks.
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