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IRT publicly masturbates to white woman, Indians apologise
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WalterBlack
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El Chinito loco said:
Indians who are born in western countries look at the FOBS with disdain. A lot of the Indians who turn up in Thailand are illegal villagers or thirsty middle class Indians who’ve never been near a woman before. Bangkok is used as a stop off point by some Indians to move to Singapore, Australia or the US/Canada. I remember one old Indian village guy telling me that he gave nearly all of his life savings ($15,000) to his nephew so that he could get to the US via Bangkok. He blew all the money on drugs and whores and was back in India in 6months.
Indians always haggle too, I’ve heard stories of FOB Indians trying to haggle prices with whores.
I have an Indian friend who grew up Thailand and who now lives in in the US. He’s as cool as fuck, he smokes weed, DJs, plays basketball and he’s married to a cute Thai lady. He’s nothing like those FOB Indian shitheads in Bangkok.
Indian men are so thirsty because India is an anti-game culture. This is the life story of many young Indian men:
Middle class Indians:
- Birth – has a special ceremony to celebrate the fact that a son is born. Thirst Level - 0
- Growing up in parents home – told not to mix with females. Women are ignored. Watches western movies or porn in secret. Grows up thinking white women are sluts. Thirst Level - 10
- College – encouraged by parents to stay away from girls and concentrate on study. Often sent to a single sex college. Thirst Level -20
- Post college – works for a few years. Never bangs any women. Dreams about pussy, watches a lot of porn. Thirst Level - 50
- Moves abroad – he still has the same level of thirst, and too shy to approach foreign women when sober. When drunk he approaches and he finds out that they are not slutty and they tell him to fuck off. Thirst Level - 1000
Lower class poor village Indians
- Birth – has a special ceremony to celebrate the fact that a son is born. Thirst Level - 0
- Growing up in parents home – told not to mix with females. Women are ignored. Watches western movies or porn in secret. Grows up thinking white women are sluts. Has no exposure to any females who are unrelated to him. He’s not allowed to talk to them. Thirst Level - 50
- Moves abroad – he still has the same level of thirst, and approaches foreign women thinking they are slutty. He finds out that they are not slutty and they tell him to fuck off. Tells all his male friends and cousins in India that he getting laid regularly. In real life he’s seeing hookers. Thirst Level - 1000
If this is the life story of a man, when the fuck is supposed to learn how to pick up and/or relate to women?! After all this he can get on a plane back to India and have an arranged marriage.
BlueOcean said:
Jacks comes from the word Jatt, which is a Punjabi caste – see Lower class poor village Indians above for their mindset.
India IS a shitty place for women to travel alone. I’ve told western females to never go alone. India was a great civilization back in the day, but I can’t see how that’s relevant to this discussion.
Good god mates, you guys could write a script for a 1970's Indian B-Movie with your fantasies of what constantly happens. I also think some of the new guys posting in the thread need to learn some forum etiquette.
Instead of trying to have a pissing match with Cobra please read and respond to my posts on the previous page. I don't think I can express the reality any better in polite and objective ways.
I have made made some appropriate analogies to Western world issues that will maybe help you swallow this pill a bit easier.
I doubt however that this issue will go away. Remember how difficult it is to convince the average guy [or even worse, a feminist] of red pill values? You really can not do it, no matter how many facts you throw at them.
My arguments 99% of the time are about finding the truth. My "view" does not mean much to me if it can be factually disproven. It is all about dialectic. I hope that it is the same for you, otherwise you will learn nothing.
Why don't you guys believe that 1 in 4 American college girls are raped?
Instead of trying to have a pissing match with Cobra please read and respond to my posts on the previous page. I don't think I can express the reality any better in polite and objective ways.
I have made made some appropriate analogies to Western world issues that will maybe help you swallow this pill a bit easier.
I doubt however that this issue will go away. Remember how difficult it is to convince the average guy [or even worse, a feminist] of red pill values? You really can not do it, no matter how many facts you throw at them.
My arguments 99% of the time are about finding the truth. My "view" does not mean much to me if it can be factually disproven. It is all about dialectic. I hope that it is the same for you, otherwise you will learn nothing.
Why don't you guys believe that 1 in 4 American college girls are raped?
Slim Shady said:
Because 9/10 American college girls are riding the cock carousel. Most of them are quite proud of it.
Some wake up the next morning with regret. Their brain is incapable of processing how they ended up sleeping with a guy 3+ points beneath them. So they lash out and say, "I was raped".
But I'll tell you what...I went to a big state university and not once did I see a guy whip out his dick and masturbate to random passer-bys.
Think about this: Why is feminism being pushed as an agenda? Why is feminism profitable?
It is VERY important to governments, corporations, and the West in general that feminism take root in India. Large parts of India still stand firm against feminism with their strong family values. That is no good. Those people need to be shamed as rapists and misogynists so that their children will take up the feminist mantle and be revolted by the archaic beliefs of their parents.
It is VERY important to governments, corporations, and the West in general that feminism take root in India. Large parts of India still stand firm against feminism with their strong family values. That is no good. Those people need to be shamed as rapists and misogynists so that their children will take up the feminist mantle and be revolted by the archaic beliefs of their parents.
While some of the dissenting guys are legitimately misinformed but making polite arguments, Chick Magnet is giving off a strong troll stench. He has either not read my post, or because he has read it and realizes it to be true, chooses to ignore it to propagate an opinion based false agenda.
Publicly masturbating is 100% wrong. Publicly masturbating on a woman is 100% sexual harassment.
The original post in this thread is silly and at this point not worth much consideration.
There are deeper social, economic, religious, and political issues at play in India that need to be realized in order to see why it is being portrayed as a rape haven.
Publicly masturbating is 100% wrong. Publicly masturbating on a woman is 100% sexual harassment.
The original post in this thread is silly and at this point not worth much consideration.
There are deeper social, economic, religious, and political issues at play in India that need to be realized in order to see why it is being portrayed as a rape haven.
Slim Shady said:
Loving your posts Slim.
Roosh recently wrote this in his Latvian model false rape accusation thread:
"In other news, a woman's group found 50% of rape accusations they examined were false.
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According the data, 1,466 of the 2,753 rape cases registered with the women’s panel between April 2013 and July 2014 were found to be false.
Chairperson of the Delhi Commission for Women Barkha Singh said such “frivolous” complaints were worrisome."
This happened in Delhi, capital of India.
Slim Shady said:
They are certainly trying to globalize feminism in asia, middle east, and the subcontinent as well but it's probably not wise to view the natural state of gender relations in India as a positive buffer against feminism.
It's just another weird repressive sexual extreme stifling natural gender relations. Feminism is also a social extreme stifling natural gender relations but just in a more dogmatic western ivory tower way.
The way things are in India is not good anti-feminism anymore than Saudi Arabia's wahhabist culture and sharia following is a good thing to align with against feminism.
It's all just a different form of cultural degeneracy.
When talking about these matters we probably shouldn't let our ethnic male hamsters run wild. There's nothing wrong with pointing out the flaws of people who share your ethnicity or culture. I noticed on RvF talking about these things gets people really defensive. There's no need for that.
Come on man, you can not seriously compare Indian culture to Saudi!
My argument from the start has been that sexual harassment is a problem on the streets but overall the rape/sexual violence problem is no bigger than any other civilized country. In fact when seen as a percentage of the total population, it is much lower.
There is no male hamster. Trust me when I tell you that guys like me and Cobra hate actual socially retarded "IRTs" much more than our non Indian brothers on this forum.
Real "IRTs" give us all a bad name, and help propagate a false narrative. We do not deny their existence, and we certainly view them as someone that needs a lot of help. We have met these guys in real life, know some of them very well in our personal lives, and so we understand the true extent of the problem.
That being said, the guy in the OP is not an "IRT" per say, but a mentally unstable deviant. His behavior is criminal, and while it may not be unique, it is certainly rare.
I will not post any more in this thread unless something drastic happens. I have made my arguments, quite well I would say. There are a few more points I wished to elaborate on which have to deal with religious intricacies [there is a Christian and Islamic "tyranny of the minority" in India. In fact the Christian groups in India are on the side of feminism!] and if anyone wants to hear about that I am willing to elaborate via PM.
Too many groups that you would think are unrelated unless you had a real knowledge of India are colluding to create this false narrative so as to embed India with feminism full force.
The reason we have a backwards culture in certain parts of India, and the reason we have sexually repressed IRTs is not because of traditional Indian culture, but because of the outside influences from the West that has left conflicting messages and an inferiority complex in the minds of the young people in the country.
My argument from the start has been that sexual harassment is a problem on the streets but overall the rape/sexual violence problem is no bigger than any other civilized country. In fact when seen as a percentage of the total population, it is much lower.
There is no male hamster. Trust me when I tell you that guys like me and Cobra hate actual socially retarded "IRTs" much more than our non Indian brothers on this forum.
Real "IRTs" give us all a bad name, and help propagate a false narrative. We do not deny their existence, and we certainly view them as someone that needs a lot of help. We have met these guys in real life, know some of them very well in our personal lives, and so we understand the true extent of the problem.
That being said, the guy in the OP is not an "IRT" per say, but a mentally unstable deviant. His behavior is criminal, and while it may not be unique, it is certainly rare.
I will not post any more in this thread unless something drastic happens. I have made my arguments, quite well I would say. There are a few more points I wished to elaborate on which have to deal with religious intricacies [there is a Christian and Islamic "tyranny of the minority" in India. In fact the Christian groups in India are on the side of feminism!] and if anyone wants to hear about that I am willing to elaborate via PM.
Too many groups that you would think are unrelated unless you had a real knowledge of India are colluding to create this false narrative so as to embed India with feminism full force.
The reason we have a backwards culture in certain parts of India, and the reason we have sexually repressed IRTs is not because of traditional Indian culture, but because of the outside influences from the West that has left conflicting messages and an inferiority complex in the minds of the young people in the country.
Slim Shady said:
Your posts reek of nationalist zealotry. I'm not the only one smelling it.
Instead of admitting that India's a sexually-repressed country (which anyone who's spent time around Indian guys knows), you're ranting about conspiracies.
Listen, I'm sure India is a fine country in many ways...but sexually the place is fucked. I'd never let my daughter or any female I cared about go there.
WalterBlack
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Slim Shady said:
I respectfully disagree. My connection to India is through Punjabi villages and as far as I know they don’t give a fuck about western influence there. My father’s village was dominated by Muslims until partition and there’s still some things carried on from those times e.g. women of my mother’s generation will cover their head with a chuni (thin scarf) outside the house, nobody eats pork (and they’re all Hindu or Sikh). Also younger girls even now are not allowed to wear western clothes.
The only western things the young males consume in the villages is porn, they don’t give a shit about western TV, movies or music. Almost none of them speak English. A lot of these guys are the ones coming over illegally to Europe, SE Asia, Australia and US/Canada.
I don’t know where you get this inferiority complex thing from either. A lot of these guys think they are better than everybody!
No matter where you go in the world, villages are always more backwards in thinking.
How are they so repressed with such a high birth rate and population
Sourcecode said:
The average Arab women has 5 kids.
There's actually a negative correlation between fertility and sexual freedom in most part of the world.
Sourcecode said:
When you finally get that pussy you're going to attack it ferociously.
Also agrarian societies pump out kids like water from a well.
WalterBlack
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El Chinito loco said:
True, plus they have a lot of kids because they need people to work the land, and a lot of them die. Basically everybody of my parents’ generation lost multiple siblings due to illness. Many kids would barely live longer than a few years just 50 years ago.
I think I'm man enough to admit I was not really as polite as I should have been in my posts. I've been here pretty long and seen a lot of IRT threads. While I feel strongly about the points I made earlier, I took a tone that caused me to stoop a bit lower than I should have. Saladin and Agastya have made some good arguments as well and I sincerely apologize to them and other legit members that I lost my shit.
That being said ...
I never said jizzing on some girl is right. It is laughable that this is what I'm being accused of. It is even more laughable that people think this is some common occurance in India.
Maybe I can clarify. Harassment and issues caused by the mindset of some Indian guys can turn themselves into dangerous situations. It is a much bigger issue in India than open jizzing. . So of course, as it is atruth, I have no problem in agreeing with it. It's just not at "epidemic" levels as the naysayers want to think it is. Knowing this, and understanding the cultural atmosphere of a country (again like I said, I know it's not flowers and kittens) before you go in is common sense and in some cases also respectful. Chances are if you are not revealing too much as a woman, or have a man with you, the trolls will not harm you. Feel free to disagree with me.
And speaking of trolls, yes I would agree that Indian guys generally have no game. I have friends like this and also other Indian friends that have better game than most Western guys will ever have. It is a result of social programming that has more than its fair share of western influence, although not in every single situation. Improving game for an Indian guy is far more difficult than his western counterpart. I started a thread/article about it once: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-42049.html?highlight=inside+the. Nothing bothers me more than an IRT because they are the worst representation of Indian culture.
Also never said Hindu culture is superior. As a matter of fact, lots of South Asian and even East Asian religions are culturally very consistent in how they operate.
I would also agree that the traditional Indian mindset (not just Hindu) is very red pill and it operated just fine for thousands of years. However, when you drop into it elements from the "recent" past such as media, income levels and education, the formula gets blurry. Remember each of these elements have western influence. It's a given. For media, if you look at Bollywood for example, it touts western ideals while often times leaving the traditions behind.
I'm not sure I mentioned it as a Hindu problem either. Like I said, Indian tradition is not just Hindu. Feel free to re-read my posts. And yes, I appreciate you blocking me as my posts are likely not a good fit for you. And yes, consequently, I think you should feel free to read more Jezebel instead.
The issue will not go away. I have yet to see a person on the forum with a high amount of rep points (with meetup reps) make abrasive and confrontational arguments. Confrontational posts generally come from trolls that cannot draw from experience. I have only to ask them some standard questions (e.g. how many approaches etc.) before the true colors come out.
I'll also say this. There is another issue on my mind regarding credibility and forum etiquette which was mentioned.
Message to newbies: Try to be a bit more polite to members that have been "vetted." You can disagree but try a bit harder to be polite. Otherwise, I suggest you meet more forum members and build that credibility before you choose to have a fired up argument with myself or someone like Slim Shady. You are inviting yourself to a ban.
It can certainly start with an admission that you were impolite (see my example above), but I presume you will be unsatisfied with that. As far as building up your reputation, I suggest you meet more members in your local tribal set up. Given the extreme behavior in this thread, I'm assuming forum moderators already have their eye on you. So I would say it is your chance to redeem yourselves.
Also to guys with some rep points and having met other forum members, I really would suggest being careful in how much you agree with un-vetted members on the forum that no one has met. You guys are way too valuable to be caught up in unsubstantiated arguments.
I couldn't help but quote this. Please don't take it the wrong way as you have previously to my posts. I see you keep focusing solely on this masturbation which at a macro level I think we have implicitly decided is irrelevant. But, given your focus, keep looking; and please carry an umberella to be safe lest it storm jizz all of a sudden from a lurking IRT.
That being said ...
I never said jizzing on some girl is right. It is laughable that this is what I'm being accused of. It is even more laughable that people think this is some common occurance in India.
Maybe I can clarify. Harassment and issues caused by the mindset of some Indian guys can turn themselves into dangerous situations. It is a much bigger issue in India than open jizzing. . So of course, as it is atruth, I have no problem in agreeing with it. It's just not at "epidemic" levels as the naysayers want to think it is. Knowing this, and understanding the cultural atmosphere of a country (again like I said, I know it's not flowers and kittens) before you go in is common sense and in some cases also respectful. Chances are if you are not revealing too much as a woman, or have a man with you, the trolls will not harm you. Feel free to disagree with me.
And speaking of trolls, yes I would agree that Indian guys generally have no game. I have friends like this and also other Indian friends that have better game than most Western guys will ever have. It is a result of social programming that has more than its fair share of western influence, although not in every single situation. Improving game for an Indian guy is far more difficult than his western counterpart. I started a thread/article about it once: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-42049.html?highlight=inside+the. Nothing bothers me more than an IRT because they are the worst representation of Indian culture.
Also never said Hindu culture is superior. As a matter of fact, lots of South Asian and even East Asian religions are culturally very consistent in how they operate.
I would also agree that the traditional Indian mindset (not just Hindu) is very red pill and it operated just fine for thousands of years. However, when you drop into it elements from the "recent" past such as media, income levels and education, the formula gets blurry. Remember each of these elements have western influence. It's a given. For media, if you look at Bollywood for example, it touts western ideals while often times leaving the traditions behind.
The Ligurian said:
I'm not sure I mentioned it as a Hindu problem either. Like I said, Indian tradition is not just Hindu. Feel free to re-read my posts. And yes, I appreciate you blocking me as my posts are likely not a good fit for you. And yes, consequently, I think you should feel free to read more Jezebel instead.
Slim Shady said:
The issue will not go away. I have yet to see a person on the forum with a high amount of rep points (with meetup reps) make abrasive and confrontational arguments. Confrontational posts generally come from trolls that cannot draw from experience. I have only to ask them some standard questions (e.g. how many approaches etc.) before the true colors come out.
I'll also say this. There is another issue on my mind regarding credibility and forum etiquette which was mentioned.
Message to newbies: Try to be a bit more polite to members that have been "vetted." You can disagree but try a bit harder to be polite. Otherwise, I suggest you meet more forum members and build that credibility before you choose to have a fired up argument with myself or someone like Slim Shady. You are inviting yourself to a ban.
It can certainly start with an admission that you were impolite (see my example above), but I presume you will be unsatisfied with that. As far as building up your reputation, I suggest you meet more members in your local tribal set up. Given the extreme behavior in this thread, I'm assuming forum moderators already have their eye on you. So I would say it is your chance to redeem yourselves.
Also to guys with some rep points and having met other forum members, I really would suggest being careful in how much you agree with un-vetted members on the forum that no one has met. You guys are way too valuable to be caught up in unsubstantiated arguments.
Chick Magnet said:
I couldn't help but quote this. Please don't take it the wrong way as you have previously to my posts. I see you keep focusing solely on this masturbation which at a macro level I think we have implicitly decided is irrelevant. But, given your focus, keep looking; and please carry an umberella to be safe lest it storm jizz all of a sudden from a lurking IRT.
It appears that she's relocating to my city.
This is her open Couchsurfing request.
We've seen the examples of 4's and 5's on CS getting inundated with hosting offers before they even need to bother with individual requests, a third of those complete with sexual conditions/offers.
Knowing my city, a good number of those will be from thirsty IRTs and their middle eastern counterparts.
This is her open Couchsurfing request.
We've seen the examples of 4's and 5's on CS getting inundated with hosting offers before they even need to bother with individual requests, a third of those complete with sexual conditions/offers.
Knowing my city, a good number of those will be from thirsty IRTs and their middle eastern counterparts.
JWLZG said:It appears that she's relocating to my city.
This is her open Couchsurfing request.
We've seen the examples of 4's and 5's on CS getting inundated with hosting offers before they even need to bother with individual requests, a third of those complete with sexual conditions/offers.
Knowing my city, a good number of those will be from thirsty IRTs and their middle eastern counterparts.
What I find offending is, she asks for two weeks of free accommodation, and would refuse to give sex in exchange...!? So, what exactly does she offer in exchange? Her bubbling attention-whore entitled personality?
To paraphrase her: "thanks but no thanks"!
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