Is class at all related to men pursuing girls?

[Kieran]

I grew up in both middle and working class circles due to my background and it's not really the case that the middle class are being discrete with it. There's a lot of them that are just too soft to approach women, and a lot that don't have much of a sex drive. There are plenty of exceptions of course such as the lads that play sports and are competitive normal men. The working class tend to be more masculine with higher sex drives, but you also get a lot of obnoxious dickheads.

I also grew up in an area with a large Caribbean population and so a lot of my oldest friends are Jamaicans and for them getting girls was and somewhat still is everything, I remember even as young as 12 going to the city centre together to look for girls, or ice skating, etc., and we were all working out with push ups and sit ups, and saving up to get the clothes that would impress the girls even at that age.

 

[BelyyTigr]

By class I mean economic class, as in working, middle, upper class. Whilst class structure varies in various countries I can speak from my experience of what I notice in the UK. I grew up in a lower-class family in a low-class neighbourhood and the schools I went to were generally the same.

What I noticed was that guys around me, even some since age 14 had an interest for girls and were losing their virginity early, girls were very promiscuous at a young age too and most of my friends I remember from school pursued girls and most guys would openly talk about them - so this was all normal to me - in fact the first time I discovered game was at age 14 when a guy in my neighbourhood (age 15) showed me how to pick up random girls on the street (his tactics weren't far off from what this forum teaches and this was a long time ago).

After that I got into a better school where much more of the people were middle-class and this is where I saw less of the guys pursuing girls. I had some friends who I could talk about game with but most guys who happened to be middle class didn't show much interest for women. If you asked them about a pretty girl they would give answers almost as if they're gay, they also would never think to approach women on the street.

Next stage (currently) I am in university (a very well ranked one in the UK) - no surprise, the majority of the my classmates are middle class, none of them grew up in lower-class sketchy neighbourhoods with diversity like me and out of over 100 classmates I can only talk about girls with maybe three, the rest seem almost gay or too beta. For example i've went to clubs with my middle class group of guys and they don't focus on girls at all but only on shouting and drinking in the club. On the other hand I have a friend who grew up in the same neighbourhood and from a family who's also not very well off and to him gaming girls is normal, he's done it since a young age. Of course not everybody talks about girls openly cos what's the benefit of gossiping about girls as a guy (that's feminine behaviour). Are more 'players' formed from lower-class backgrounds or not neccesarily? Of course this may be relative but i've noticed that for sure lower class men have always pursued females more, do you agree?

Social class re England and places should be part of red pill discussion more on RooshV IMO.

Anyway, its like the saying:-
"When I was a kid we were poor. I said to my dad that I wanted something to wear and something to play with for Xmas.
So he gave me a pair of trousers with holes in the pockets".

Moving on, there IS a slight element of truth in it all. Lower middle class kids are more focussed on homework, reading, hobbies "for the UCAS form", building a "future". Working class kids have to live for the moment, because they don't forecast giant leaps forward at 25 or whatever. And getting exam results mean shit if you want to be a plumber. With lower middle class girls there's the added "bs" of appearing "classy" and a bit less obtainable than working class girls.

I know a fair number of working class kids who fucked at 12, and masturbated the other sex at as low as 8 or 9 or 10. Lower middle class kids weren't getting much at 16 or even 17! Mid middle and upper middle class kids etc, its a different dynamic again.

I lived in a middle class area and was staggered at how "friendly" girls were when I visited a council estate at 8/10/12 years.

The other aspect is that working class often equates to being streetwise and social skills being necessary to succceed. Middle class is more about being a disciplined, focussed cog in the machine.... on many occasions, atleast. I can think of one guy who makes £1 million pa (certified) but his social/game skills are absolute zero. Then I can think of guys barely scraping £18k pa in a factory and the hoes just flock around him.

 

[britchard]

Yes, in the UK it is everything. It outweighs ANY other factor such as race, religion or place of birth within the UK.

A protestant middle-class white guy from Southampton is more likely to marry a middle-class catholic girl from Northern Ireland than a working class girl who lives in the next street over from him.

This is marriage, but it carries over in to the whole sexual marketplace.

 

[debeguiled]

Yes, in the UK it is everything. It outweighs ANY other factor such as race, religion or place of birth within the UK.

A protestant middle-class white guy from Southampton is more likely to marry a middle-class catholic girl from Northern Ireland than a working class girl who lives in the next street over from him.

This is marriage, but it carries over in to the whole sexual marketplace.

There are many invisible strictures on behavior in the UK that are incomprehensible to anyone from somewhere else.

Class is only the beginning of English weirdness.

I found this book to be helpful in figuring them out.

Watching the English

In "Watching The English" anthropologist Kate Fox takes a revealing look at the quirks, habits and foibles of the English people. She puts the English national character under her anthropological microscope, and finds a strange and fascinating culture, governed by complex sets of unspoken rules and byzantine codes of behaviour. The rules of weather-speak. The ironic-gnome rule. The reflex apology rule. The paranoid-pantomime rule. Class indicators and class anxiety tests. The money-talk taboo and many more ...Through a mixture of anthropological analysis and her own unorthodox experiments (using herself as a reluctant guinea-pig), Kate Fox discovers what these unwritten behaviour codes tell us about Englishness.

 

[CincinnatiKid]

Rich parents generally hire babysitters, housekeepers and maids whom the boys can practice game upon - they have the upper hand in the sense they have the power to get them fired. And not to mention, most of the girls are only being paid 10-15 bucks an hour. All a kid has to do is flash a couple Benjamins, which many get as a weekly allowance.

I lived in a middle class area and was staggered at how "friendly" girls were when I visited a council estate at 8/10/12 years.

In America there called "Section 8" "HUD" or the projects. But yeah, instead of collecting baseball cards or video games most boys start banging Hookers at age 12. Dudes in the hood never get in the habit of masturbating cause of the desperate/needy women. While you need at least $500 to tempt a middle class girl, in the hood $50 will work especially if she has a pill problem. $10-20 bux if she's on "ice" "hard" or "boi" (visit urbandictionary if you don't know)