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<blockquote data-quote="Kieran" data-source="post: 1151498" data-attributes="member: 4725">I grew up in both middle and working class circles due to my background and it's not really the case that the middle class are being discrete with it. There's a lot of them that are just too soft to approach women, and a lot that don't have much of a sex drive. There are plenty of exceptions of course such as the lads that play sports and are competitive normal men. The working class tend to be more masculine with higher sex drives, but you also get a lot of obnoxious dickheads. I also grew up in an area with a large Caribbean population and so a lot of my oldest friends are Jamaicans and for them getting girls was and somewhat still is everything, I remember even as young as 12 going to the city centre together to look for girls, or ice skating, etc., and we were all working out with push ups and sit ups, and saving up to get the clothes that would impress the girls even at that age.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kieran, post: 1151498, member: 4725"] I grew up in both middle and working class circles due to my background and it's not really the case that the middle class are being discrete with it. There's a lot of them that are just too soft to approach women, and a lot that don't have much of a sex drive. There are plenty of exceptions of course such as the lads that play sports and are competitive normal men. The working class tend to be more masculine with higher sex drives, but you also get a lot of obnoxious dickheads. I also grew up in an area with a large Caribbean population and so a lot of my oldest friends are Jamaicans and for them getting girls was and somewhat still is everything, I remember even as young as 12 going to the city centre together to look for girls, or ice skating, etc., and we were all working out with push ups and sit ups, and saving up to get the clothes that would impress the girls even at that age. [/QUOTE]

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