Is It Time To Move To A Better Place?

[Ah_Tibor]

Sometimes you dont have to move far to drastically change your environment.

I used to live in a downtown of one city, no car, was relying on public transit. Thus, I was constantly in the middle of the simmering cultural rot, for years. Then, when I met my wife and we started pondering about our future and where to raise our future kids, we moved to a smaller city that was only a short drive away from where we used to live.

However, the difference was stark - no homeless, quiet, safe, clean surroundings, respectful neighbors. Also, by not using public transit any longer, I was not exposed any more to your typical characters you would encounter on a bus or LRT.

My stress and annoyance levels reduced significantly. Why suffer in vain? If it is within your power to change things for better, I say, why not do it? Especially, if its something simple like moving to a different neighborhood or a city.

We live right outside a major city and it's nice. I can walk to the library, grocery store, restaurants, etc. My husband used to take the train into the city for work but is fully remote now.

Rent in semi-rural and suburban areas has gone up astronomically in the past two years. If we had more family close by we'd consider staying. I think you can be happy anywhere (within reason).

 

[Mercury]

Pretty timely article for me since I've been contemplating moving from the Boston area to the Southeast (Georgia or SC) once my daughter graduates high school in 1.5 years. I'm single and have never been able to connect with a solid Catholic community up here although, perhaps I haven't worked overly hard at it.

Now that vaxx mandates are gaining steam in MA, my ability to find new jobs (assuming I don't stay in my current one until retirement) long-term will be difficult to impossible. Remote work offers options in regard to sidestepping the mandates but, with the high cost of living up here I say to myself often ,"why am I paying so much (taxes, inflated home prices, etc) to live in a politically and spiritually hostile area? Especially one that's freezing for 5 months a year?"

Sure, these are mostly worldly concerns but, if there isn't a spiritual reason to stay in the midst of encroaching communism, why not move? Also, I'm not above believing that God directs our paths through practical, worldly purposes.

Massachusetts has one of the best trad Catholic parishes in the country. Phil Lawler from CatholicCulture.org set up shop there specifically due to the parish life.

 

[Liviu]

Yay, my forum account still works, haven't been here for quite some time.

So while I find Roosh's new perspective interesting, and while being MGTOW agree with him surprisingly often - this time I don't.
We discussed those matters a lot in the MGTOW sphere, and our conclusion was basically to move out of the cities which are cesspools obviously. And move out of the blue states. I don't understand it due to several reasons:

1. Why you'd make your life needlessly harder ?
I guess Roosh tried to answer that one in his text, but I don't agree with it. Still you're paying for the bs of those blue cities and states. Just why would you do this ? By being there / paying taxes, you enabling them to continue their evil.

2. We came to the conclusions that finding and joining based patriarchal communities is the best way to go. The difficulty is finding the people where you as a single man would belong/fit in.
Still, this is the most preferred solution imho, bc you can help and contribute to this based community, maybe even have a family there. You'll be far more effective in actually creating positive change than staying and suffering in the regions with the blue commie idiots while even not agreeing with them.

You have a point but Darius covered it better. From what he wrote and from the reality, finally we should understand that there are multiple levels of spiritual fight. For the average Christian what you wrote is probably the solution. There are known that missionaries in pagan countries or territories from Christianity history and even from modern times assumed that they could endure martyrdom and many became indeed martyrs.

Romanian spiritual father Arsenie Papacioc (1914 - 2011), who endured inclusively 2 days in a refrigerator and many other things in harsh communist times and by the will of God escaped and lived almost until a hundred years old and helped at the formation of many important Christian- orthodox people in my country said : ` First has to be established from which position we wage the spiritual fight`

 

[BLMeToo]

I left NYC for good a few weeks ago. Then I tried to move to Colombia, but left due to the amount of mask and vax passport compliance. I'm in Michigan now, which thankfully has less coof tyranny and won't until next year, since Gov. Whitmer is up for election this year. I'll be settling in Grand Rapids, where aside from a few masks, life seems completely normal. Depending on what happens I can discern where I'll ultimately settle at. But at least GR is nice.

I had to leave NYC though. Though I had a pretty good faith community and found solid parishes, it was just too isolating to be unjabbed and not able to live much of a life. I feel much more at peace being here in Michigan.

 

[Trewolla]

I left NYC for good a few weeks ago. Then I tried to move to Colombia, but left due to the amount of mask and vax passport compliance. I'm in Michigan now, which thankfully has less coof tyranny and won't until next year, since Gov. Whitmer is up for election this year. I'll be settling in Grand Rapids, where aside from a few masks, life seems completely normal. Depending on what happens I can discern where I'll ultimately settle at. But at least GR is nice.

I had to leave NYC though. Though I had a pretty good faith community and found solid parishes, it was just too isolating to be unjabbed and not able to live much of a life. I feel much more at peace being here in Michigan.

America still exists in many areas of the Southeastern U.S. One has the choose carefully because many places have a heavy black influence. But there are many small town/rural communities in the southeast where people can still live reasonably free.

 

[MartyMcFly]

America still exists in many areas of the Southeastern U.S. One has the choose carefully because many places have a heavy black influence. But there are many small town/rural communities in the southeast where people can still live reasonably free.

Since 90% of blacks are democrats, this is a valid concern.

I read yesterday about Greenville, MS banning people from attending church services in their cars because the mayor thought it was unsafe! You can't get much more southern in the USA than Mississippi. The mayor failed in this tyranny but that fact he tried says that he thought it is what the majority of the people in his city wanted. It says a lot about him and his town and the police force in that town who enforced his law. Mississippi is known for love of church and this includes both blacks and whites. However, Greenville is mostly black and 90% of blacks are democrats which likely means many are fake Christians (how can a Christian vote for Biden knowing what he stands for?!). The lesson is to make sure to avoid counties that voted democrat, even if you are moving to a red state and this goes for rural as well as urban counties.

Mississippi mayor reverses ban on drive-through church services

GREENVILLE, Miss. — After drawing national attention, including lawsuits brought by two local churches, the mayor of Greenville, Mississippi has reversed his decision to ban drive-in church s…

www.wreg.com

 

[Trewolla]

Since 90% of blacks are democrats, this is a valid concern.

I read yesterday about Greenville, MS banning people from attending church services in their cars because the mayor thought it was unsafe! You can't get much more southern in the USA than Mississippi. The mayor failed in this tyranny but that fact he tried says that he thought it is what the majority of the people in his city wanted. It says a lot about him and his town and the police force in that town who enforced his law. Mississippi is known for love of church and this includes both blacks and whites. However, Greenville is mostly black and 90% of blacks are democrats which likely means many are fake Christians (how can a Christian vote for Biden knowing what he stands for?!). The lesson is to make sure to avoid counties that voted democrat, even if you are moving to a red state and this goes for rural as well as urban counties.

Mississippi mayor reverses ban on drive-through church services

GREENVILLE, Miss. — After drawing national attention, including lawsuits brought by two local churches, the mayor of Greenville, Mississippi has reversed his decision to ban drive-in church s…

www.wreg.com

Maybe so. But I live in a rural area in the south that's close to three major metropolitan areas. I drove into one of them last night to have dinner in a nice restaurant in celebration of the new year. The restaurant is large and it was at full capacity.

No one was wearing masks. No one cared.

It isn't in a heavily black region of the south.

There's many places in the south that have much the same attitude--and actually, I prefer that no outsiders learn about them.

I occasionally make mention of how it is down here. But I won't argue the point with people. Anyone who wants to stay away from here probably doesn't belong here.

And that's fine.

 

[Cyn]

Yes White man.
Continue to run,.
Just like your parents did, and kick that can down the road.
That’s certainly not the reason we’re in the situation we’re in today!
And, the (((tractors))) will certainly let you live in peace, to be the strong man you are.
Ohh I mean wymenz. Because, wymenz rule the world.
Funny, you all want the privilege of being men, but none of the actual responsibilities that come with that privilege.

I’ve come up with a theory on you mgtow inversion of feminist. Basically you accuse woman of hypergamy, and switching sides to sleep with the barbarians at the gate, because of PROJECTION.

As obviously, the barbarians wouldn’t have you cowards as a subitution for us, despit many of you willing to try I’d wager, So, because you’re all huge cowards, who know it’s (((tractors))) destroying this country, but won’t lift your skirts to do anything about it, use circular logic that you can’t because wymenz.
So, you have to find another way to whore yourselves out! This way, when the barbarians come, and you sissy’s start hiding in corners, crying, you can rationalize to YOUR brain hamster, and to each other, that you’re not hiding because your a bunch of soft, c-cup, modern day cowards, noooo. You’re hiding because the wymenz did this and they deserve it !!!

Listen
I know the smell of vagina. I’ve been dealing with it my whole life. These are the words of a puss, rationalizing and excusing his cowardly ways.

And for the record I’m married for now 14 years, gave my husband 2 boys, only work inside the house, in the middle of JYC. I didn’t run. So I pass all the prerequisites of being able to tell YOU, you are a blathering puss who just wants to run to a comfortable chair, work on those chin gains, and will find any excuse to do it.
While the rest of you weak shits can rationalize it any way you want, but you better believe your turn will come, eventually. They made it quit clear. There will be no where left to run for you.

Who made that clear?

The wymenz of course !!!

Just continue to it the huge (((tractor))) barreling down the highway at 85 mph with your White a$$’s name on it

Yay, my forum account still works, haven't been here for quite some time.

So while I find Roosh's new perspective interesting, and while being MGTOW agree with him surprisingly often - this time I don't.
We discussed those matters a lot in the MGTOW sphere, and our conclusion was basically to move out of the cities which are cesspools obviously. And move out of the blue states. I don't understand it due to several reasons:

1. Why you'd make your life needlessly harder ?
I guess Roosh tried to answer that one in his text, but I don't agree with it. Still you're paying for the bs of those blue cities and states. Just why would you do this ? By being there / paying taxes, you enabling them to continue their evil.

2. We came to the conclusions that finding and joining based patriarchal communities is the best way to go. The difficulty is finding the people where you as a single man would belong/fit in.
Still, this is the most preferred solution imho, bc you can help and contribute to this based community, maybe even have a family there. You'll be far more effective in actually creating positive change than staying and suffering in the regions with the blue commie idiots while even not agreeing with them.

 

[Cyn]

Yes White man.
Continue to run.
Just like your parents did, and kick that can down the road.
That’s certainly not the reason we’re in the situation we’re in today!
And, the (((tractors))) will certainly let you live in peace, to be the strong man you are.
Ohh I mean wymenz. Because, wymenz rule the world.
Funny, you all want the privilege of being men, but none of the actual responsibilities that come with that privilege.

I’ve come up with a theory on you mgtow inversion of feminist. Basically, you accuse woman of hypergamy, and switching sides to sleep with the barbarians at the gate, because of PROJECTION.

As obviously, the barbarians wouldn’t have you cowards as a subitution for us, despite many of you willing to try, I’d wager, So, because you’re all huge cowards, who know it’s (((tractors))) destroying this country, but won’t lift your skirts to do anything about it, you use circular logic that you can’t, because of wymenz.
So, you have to find another way to whore yourselves out! This way, when the barbarians come, and you sissy’s start hiding in your corners, crying, you can rationalize to YOUR brain hamster, and to each other, that you’re not hiding because your a bunch of soft, c-cup, modern day cowards, noooo. You’re hiding because the wymenz did this. and they deserve it !!!


Listen,
I know the smell of vagina. I’ve been dealing with it my whole life. These are the words of a puss, rationalizing and excusing his cowardly ways. I don’t care how many snarky masculine words you sprinkle on it. Your deeds are what defines you.

And, for the record I’m married for now 14 years, gave my husband 2 boys, only work inside the house, in the middle of JYC. I didn’t run!
So I pass all the prerequisites of being able to tell YOU, you are a blathering puss. who just wants to run to a comfortable chair, work on those chin gains, and will find any excuse to do it.
While the rest of you weak shits can rationalize it any way you want, but you better believe your turn will come, eventually. They made it quit clear. There will be no where left to run for you.

Who made that clear?

The wymenz of course !!!

Just continue to it the huge (((tractor))) barreling down the highway at 85 mph with your White a$$’s name on it

Let the blathering, belligerent, emotional outburst begin. Because you’d never actually want any but if the truth to seep in now would you

Yay, my forum account still works, haven't been here for quite some time.

So while I find Roosh's new perspective interesting, and while being MGTOW agree with him surprisingly often - this time I don't.
We discussed those matters a lot in the MGTOW sphere, and our conclusion was basically to move out of the cities which are cesspools obviously. And move out of the blue states. I don't understand it due to several reasons:

1. Why you'd make your life needlessly harder ?
I guess Roosh tried to answer that one in his text, but I don't agree with it. Still you're paying for the bs of those blue cities and states. Just why would you do this ? By being there / paying taxes, you enabling them to continue their evil.

2. We came to the conclusions that finding and joining based patriarchal communities is the best way to go. The difficulty is finding the people where you as a single man would belong/fit in.
Still, this is the most preferred solution imho, bc you can help and contribute to this based community, maybe even have a family there. You'll be far more effective in actually creating positive change than staying and suffering in the regions with the blue commie idiots while even not agreeing with them.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Maybe so. But I live in a rural area in the south that's close to three major metropolitan areas. I drove into one of them last night to have dinner in a nice restaurant in celebration of the new year. The restaurant is large and it was at full capacity.

No one was wearing masks. No one cared.

It isn't in a heavily black region of the south.

There's many places in the south that have much the same attitude--and actually, I prefer that no outsiders learn about them.

I occasionally make mention of how it is down here. But I won't argue the point with people. Anyone who wants to stay away from here probably doesn't belong here.

And that's fine.

I imagine many southern places are OK. I just didn't expect any place in Mississippi to be so tyrannical. I thought that even in black areas (at least in smaller towns) in the deep south, the church was very important to the community and that church services would be respected. I didn't expect Greenville to act like California.

Hopefully this will cost the mayor his job.

 

[Catholic_Conversion]

Very much enjoyed the article by Roosh. I have been contemplating emigrating back to Australia from Canada. My family is split all over the world and I am very much a rootless cosmopolitan. Ironically, I have gained some roots living abroad in Canada. I found a spiritual home at a Parish and was received into the Roman Catholic Church here. Reading Rooshs' article and other resources makes me think returning to Australia is the 'right' thing to do. At the same time, it feels as if I would be uprooting again. Ultimately I only want to do Gods Will and I pray I will be able to discern correctly the path forward.