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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Liviu" data-source="post: 1559659" data-attributes="member: 19881">You have a point but Darius covered it better. From what he wrote and from the reality, finally we should understand that there are multiple levels of spiritual fight. For the average Christian  what you wrote is probably the solution. There are known that missionaries in pagan countries or territories from Christianity history and even from modern times assumed that they could endure martyrdom and many became indeed martyrs.Romanian spiritual father Arsenie Papacioc (1914 - 2011), who endured inclusively 2 days in a refrigerator and many other things in harsh communist times and by the will of God escaped and lived almost until a hundred years old and helped at the formation of many important Christian- orthodox people in my country said : ` First has to be established from which position we wage the spiritual fight`</blockquote>