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<blockquote data-quote="Towgunner" data-source="post: 1372730" data-attributes="member: 12355">This is a factor, period. The truth of it is expressed in hard quantitative data. That being said, that's not to say all Blacks are dumb. Many aren't. And that's why its important to sustain a tradition that says to look at people individually. Judge on actions. Never judge a book by its cover. But all of that are relics of the old America. Its the Golden Rule. And it worked very well. IQ deficiencies notwithstanding, I'd say the biggest reason for Blacks not doing well is the break down of the nuclear family. You can go a long way by being motivated and over-coming the odds. People do it all the time. But, very few even attempt it let alone are successful if they don't have good influences. Fathers were the locus of this motivation and wisdom and encouragement. Especially for boys. They set the example. Their wisdom came from their f*ck ups and close calls. But they have to be there. And not only that engaged. Society as a whole doesn't value fathers that much. They think some &quot;village&quot; made up of indifferent assh*les that care only about themselves is all that's needed. Or &quot;love&quot;. If the father isn't valued than family isn't valued...how can it be since it takes a father and mother? No no, single moms are heroic. Single moms are better than two parent households. We're told. How can a father be so necessary when &quot;they&quot; insist that two moms or two dads aren't just as good, but, way way way better. Because as we know ALL homosexuals are perfect and superior to anyone that is not homosexual. This is what is holding Blacks back.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Towgunner, post: 1372730, member: 12355"] This is a factor, period. The truth of it is expressed in hard quantitative data. That being said, that's not to say all Blacks are dumb. Many aren't. And that's why its important to sustain a tradition that says to look at people individually. Judge on actions. Never judge a book by its cover. But all of that are relics of the old America. Its the Golden Rule. And it worked very well. IQ deficiencies notwithstanding, I'd say the biggest reason for Blacks not doing well is the break down of the nuclear family. You can go a long way by being motivated and over-coming the odds. People do it all the time. But, very few even attempt it let alone are successful if they don't have good influences. Fathers were the locus of this motivation and wisdom and encouragement. Especially for boys. They set the example. Their wisdom came from their f*ck ups and close calls. But they have to be there. And not only that engaged. Society as a whole doesn't value fathers that much. They think some "village" made up of indifferent assh*les that care only about themselves is all that's needed. Or "love". If the father isn't valued than family isn't valued...how can it be since it takes a father and mother? No no, single moms are heroic. Single moms are better than two parent households. We're told. How can a father be so necessary when "they" insist that two moms or two dads aren't just as good, but, way way way better. Because as we know ALL homosexuals are perfect and superior to anyone that is not homosexual. This is what is holding Blacks back. [/QUOTE]

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