Islam is an insidious threat more dangerous than Communism

zero1

Pigeon
I can respect the Christian foundations of Western civilization, in fact I was a Christian most of my life. But at some point one must surely realize, through enough introspection, that there actually is no sky god. We can respect our heritage, our beliefs, and fight the negative cultural influences, leftism, marxism, and illegal immigrants, whilst also putting logic into perspective. We were built by Christian foundations, we can respect that heritage, but it doesn't mean that any "god" exists.

I know conservative atheism seems like a paradoxical phrase, but I believe it's the only truth one can arrive at if they examine everything in life critically enough.

Our evolution is not yet done. If we are to truly progress, we will need to overcome religion just as much as leftism and egalitarianism.
 

Samseau

Owl
Gold Member
zero1 said:
I can respect the Christian foundations of Western civilization, in fact I was a Christian most of my life. But at some point one must surely realize, through enough introspection, that there actually is no sky god.

And you know this because....
 

Liberty Sea

Pelican
My opinion is that cultural Marxism is more dangerous than Islam. I explained this in another thread. I will quote it here in full with some modification.

Liberty Sea said:
Phoenix said:
These people should be recognized as what they are: foot soldiers for Islamic expansion, and the weapon they carry is lies.

I highly doubt that it is the Islamists that are behind the SJW army in the street and the academia, nor are they going to be successful. I simply don't think they have the financial and intellectual power to accomplish that.

My theory is that even the Muslims will get assimilated into the global consumerist culture once they run out of natural oil. So far Muslim countries have resisted Westernization because thank to their oil they can manage a certain degree of economic independence and low industrialization, but it's going to be running out soon. Israel and the US will find new sources of energy with new technology like fracking, solar energy and so on, but the Islamic countries likely won't have the capacity for that and have to get more and more industrialized like developed countries. Full industrialization and greater participation in the machine of global capitalism will eventually change their way of life, sooner or later. They will have to get modernized like Japan and Korea, or fall behind and become irrelevant at best, enslaved at worst. As modernization and later, post-modernization kick in, the importance of God and traditional-religious values in Arab life will dwindle like we see here in the West.

Furthermore, Western and especially American pop culture, with its fascinating youthful energy, has already 'infiltrated' into the way of life of Muslim youths, greatly influencing the value of the next generation. Many young Arab people are just as stepped into pop cultural products as American youths. Islamic countries will get Westernized before we get Islamized. Muslims who live in the west, especially from the second generation on, can be just as blue pill and decadent as liberals, and they are getting more and more so.

The current decadence and insanity in the Western world are partly due to highly-industrialized post-scarcity stale peace, and partly due to the ideological machination of a certain economic and cultural elite class. That elite class is disproportionately, if not overwhelmingly, Jewish. They are the ones who run both the global economy and the Western academia. They also run traditional as well as social media, and pop culture institutions like Hollywood. They have achieved both economic, political and cultural dominance. Modern ideologies like cultural Marxism, later feminism, neoconservatism, etc. are intellectual products of the Jews.

Their goal is, I suspect, to achieve a unified, globalized world where people of all races intermingle and interbreed, become one people and live peacefully under the rule of an enlightened world government run by the Jewish meritocrats, fulfilling their destiny as God's chosen people. Nobody retains their ethnic identity except for the Jews - Globalism for everyone and tribalism for the Jews, like Christianity for all people, and Judaism for the Jews alone. And it seems they're trying to achieve this goal though mostly peaceful means, through economic and soft power.

The attempt to get Muslims accepted into Western culture is, I think, part of this plan. But whatever their goal is, there is little doubt that it's the Jews, and not the Muslims, who hold real dominance in the Western world. The Jews, we should remember, are also considered a protected class, a victim group, but they cannot be as high in the Victim hierarchy as the Muslims, other minorities, and LGBTQA people, simply because they are too successful and too powerful in people's eyes and in reality. It's hard to cry oppression when you belong to the upper end of social inequality. But as soon as you touch them, the cry of anti-Semitism will certainly explode. Like that time when a journalist who hit Melania got hate mails. Even the anti-Israeli left, like Salon, will not hesitate to attack Trump supporters as anti-semitic when they have the chance to. Or, most recently, the outrage over Trump's star of David.

Liberty Sea said:
In the Qur’an, which is believed to be God’s word told to Prophet Muhammad, women and men are described as equals in everyday actions and responsibilities. When it comes to family, charity, children, sex, and much more, a man and a woman have the same duties and that is to continue on the straight path.

In the case that she is honestly deluded and not shamelessly fraudulent, the Islam that she is attracted to is already a watered down, Westernized, Americanized and liberalized Islam. It's clear that she has never been to a Muslim country, and only spoke from her limited interaction with the American-Muslim community. (Even then, she's ignoring many reported facts about the treatment of women in Muslim country) A good Muslim is for her a Muslim who shares liberal values, i.e. little more than a good prude liberal wearing a headscarf.

At any ate, the fact she can only advertise this liberalized version of Islam testifies to the victory of liberal values in the culture war, for getting it any closer to the raw Islam would be unacceptable. As I said, the Muslims will get Westernized/liberalized before we get Islamized. It's already on the way. It only needs time. When immigration occurs too fast at once, immigrants will form their own community and for a while can preserve their own culture, and get to have jobs without learning English/host country language. Slow, bit by bit immigration will make it easier and faster for immigrants to integrate. But eventually, by some generations, under economic pressure and pop-culture allure, they will get assimilated into post-modern liberal, consumerist culture. Soon you will see fat American-Muslim girls like you already see fat American-Asian girls.


The FBI Insider on 4chan confirms as much.
 

The Beast1

Peacock
Gold Member
Cultural Marxism is the force that is allowing Islam to grow. It rots Christian cultures and instills nihilism in the weaker minds by eliminating moderate voices and innoculating them to degenerate ideals such as homosexuality.

Islam can grow and is protected in this environment. Cultural Marxists' end goal is total Islamic control and destruction of Christiandom. They're essentially deconstructing everything to allow a new and insidious culture to form on the remains of the old. It's why you'll see liberals say stuff like, "Migrant rape isn't the same as rape by a white guy."

The irony is, Islam will literally chop the head off of cultural Marxists.
 

rotekz

Ostrich
Gold Member
The Beast1 said:
Cultural Marxists' end goal is total Islamic control and destruction of Christiandom. They're essentially deconstructing everything to allow a new and insidious culture to form on the remains of the old.

Is it not societal collapse that they desire? It is the only way that socialism can get established. They see the spread of Islam as a tool to hasten this collapse, the same goes for the race wars being stoked.

Cultural Marxists want to live under socialist rule, not Islam. They bank on defeating Islam later.

Ex-Seal Matthew Bracken published a prophetic article last year on the coming World War between International Socialism, Islam and Nationalism.

Tet, Take Two: Islam’s 2016 European Offensive

9. The End Game

If the traitor elites can imagine sufficiently far into the future, then they must surely see international socialism lining up next for its climactic struggle against Islam, which shall be fought atop the still-warm corpse of European nationalism. Will these traitor-elite international socialists be able to hold the line against the ultimate victory of Islamic supremacism in Europe, or anywhere?
 

The Beast1

Peacock
Gold Member
rotekz said:
The Beast1 said:
Cultural Marxists' end goal is total Islamic control and destruction of Christiandom. They're essentially deconstructing everything to allow a new and insidious culture to form on the remains of the old.

Is it not societal collapse that they desire? It is the only way that socialism can get established. They see the spread of Islam as a tool to hasten this collapse, the same goes for the race wars being stoked.

Cultural Marxists want to live under socialist rule, not Islam. They bank on defeating Islam later.

Ex-Seal Matthew Bracken published a prophetic article last year on the coming World War between International Socialism, Islam and Nationalism.

Tet, Take Two: Islam’s 2016 European Offensive

9. The End Game

If the traitor elites can imagine sufficiently far into the future, then they must surely see international socialism lining up next for its climactic struggle against Islam, which shall be fought atop the still-warm corpse of European nationalism. Will these traitor-elite international socialists be able to hold the line against the ultimate victory of Islamic supremacism in Europe, or anywhere?

I know what you're saying: socialists using Islam and liberalism as a means to usher in their world view.

However, I don't think the socialists and the elites (Soros et al) have the ability to control their Frankenstein Islam. Once the militant Islamists have the tools they need such weapons, bodies, and guided nuclear weapons who is to say that the creation won't go and kill its master?

A lot of this is very apocalyptic. The socialists will realize they're in over their heads with the behemoath they've created.
 

RexImperator

Crow
Gold Member
I recently heard this interesting program about how the Salafists are infiltrating African countries, thanks to funding from the gulf states:

http://www.pri.org/programs/america-abroad/africas-fight-against-islamic-extremism

In this episode of America Abroad, we explore the historical role of Islam in Africa, how Islamist groups have taken hold in parts of it, and what's being done to resist them; We hear from people on the ground in Kenya, Nigeria and Uganda; And we learn about the role of Middle Eastern countries in exporting more radical forms of Islam to sub-Saharan Africa through mosques and madrasas.

Africa has had it's own Sufi brand of Islam, which was kind of a "cultural Islam" or a hybrid blended with local indigenous beliefs, but it is being "purified" as we see the rise of groups like Al Shabaab and Boku Haram.
 

rotekz

Ostrich
Gold Member
Once Trump gets in this might actually happen.


The Tears of Jihad is a summary of the deaths caused by jihad against the Kafir for 1400 years. It is the greatest story never told. Presidents Bush and Obama have denied this history. Our history talks about the invasion of Turks, Arabs, Saracens, Berbers, and Moors, but does not call it jihad. Our most recent report of the 9/11 attacks omits jihad. No explanation is ever given of why the native culture is always annihilated after Islam invades and puts Sharia law in place.

In the twentieth century over two million Armenian and Syrian Christians were killed in jihad. Who knows the details? We need a museum devoted to the greatest suffering in history. It would document the annihilation of Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, and polytheist cultures. It would document slavery, rape and how apologists for Islam deny all of this history.

The Museum would show how Islamic doctrine drives history--cause and effect. We would have accredited scholars giving seminars and debates. The Museum would have a physical center as well as a web presence.

We need to document the suffering, so it can be stopped. Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.

Thanks to Danusha Goska: http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/26278...
 

godfather dust

Ostrich
Gold Member
The Beast1 said:
rotekz said:
The Beast1 said:
Cultural Marxists' end goal is total Islamic control and destruction of Christiandom. They're essentially deconstructing everything to allow a new and insidious culture to form on the remains of the old.

Is it not societal collapse that they desire? It is the only way that socialism can get established. They see the spread of Islam as a tool to hasten this collapse, the same goes for the race wars being stoked.

Cultural Marxists want to live under socialist rule, not Islam. They bank on defeating Islam later.

Ex-Seal Matthew Bracken published a prophetic article last year on the coming World War between International Socialism, Islam and Nationalism.

Tet, Take Two: Islam’s 2016 European Offensive

9. The End Game

If the traitor elites can imagine sufficiently far into the future, then they must surely see international socialism lining up next for its climactic struggle against Islam, which shall be fought atop the still-warm corpse of European nationalism. Will these traitor-elite international socialists be able to hold the line against the ultimate victory of Islamic supremacism in Europe, or anywhere?

I know what you're saying: socialists using Islam and liberalism as a means to usher in their world view.

However, I don't think the socialists and the elites (Soros et al) have the ability to control their Frankenstein Islam. Once the militant Islamists have the tools they need such weapons, bodies, and guided nuclear weapons who is to say that the creation won't go and kill its master?

A lot of this is very apocalyptic. The socialists will realize they're in over their heads with the behemoath they've created.

If Muslims (the ones who follow the religion the way it's laid out, IE kill rape rob etc. not the secular ones) get their hands on nuclear weapons it's game over. Extinction of humanity.

Anyone know how many nukes are in Europe? I think the Europeans have become too pussified to stop Islam from taking over, and it doesn't help that they are mostly disarmed.
 

dain_bramage

Woodpecker
Well this is the UK nuclear weapon platform:

The Vanguard-class is a British class of nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBN) in service with the Royal Navy. Each submarine is armed with up to 16 UGM-133 Trident II missiles.

The UK is thought to retain a stockpile of around 225 thermonuclear warheads, of which 160 are operational, but has refused to declare the exact size of its arsenal.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_the_United_Kingdom
 

rotekz

Ostrich
Gold Member
#fightforwesterncivilisation is starting to trend. Twitter will soon censor it.

 
My question is, just like guys in a locker room talking about women, but then men being afraid to tell women the truth in real life (out loud), what can you actually do at this point about the muslimeen?

Here are things I know you can do (in the politically correct spectrum) to save appearances:

1. Shut down immigration from XYZ countries
2. Create a culture where spying on muslims is in accordance with federal law.
3. Publicly speak about how the past leaders were liars about the issues (can you go so far as to say that Shari'a is antithetical to our laws? I don't know).

The problem is, the only solution is getting these people out of your society, or banning it like communism, outright.

I just don't see that happening. Which is why civil war and/or military coup, anything that restarts a new country would be necessary.

Any thoughts?
 

h3ltrsk3ltr

Kingfisher
Gold Member
RaccoonFace said:
zero1 said:
We were built by Christian foundations, we can respect that heritage, but it doesn't mean that any "god" exists.
You should read the following thread, but you probably lack the humility to even consider you could be wrong like most smug atheists.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-53245.html

This is the most ass backwards comment, RaccoonFace. Nowhere does he show any smugness in that post. You, on the other hand display a gross lack of humility while accusing him of the same. I'm starting to see a pattern in christian thinking...
1. Ridicule
2. Throw a tantrum
3. Storm off

At least Samseau is engaging in the discussion, which seems to be a rare method for a lot of you fellas in the christian camp.
 

Ghost Tiger

Ostrich
Gold Member
h3ltrsk3ltr said:
Nowhere does he show any smugness in that post.

Exhibit A (smugness):

zero1 said:
But at some point one must surely realize, through enough introspection, that there actually is no sky god.

If you cannot see how this statement is smug, then you need to do more introspection.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
godfather dust said:
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Anyone know how many nukes are in Europe? I think the Europeans have become too pussified to stop Islam from taking over, and it doesn't help that they are mostly disarmed.

It's worthwhile remembering that the use of force is not a democratic process. It's also worth remembering that native Europeans make excellent organised killers when motivated.

It would take only a small fraction of the population to decide enough was enough. The police would be irrelevant. There would be trouble if the military decided to side with the globalists and the muslims, but I seriously doubt that. At worst they would be dragging their heels at every turn.

There would be a muslim exodus of biblical proportions as soon as the French nationalists spat the dummy, and there would be no differentiation between "moderates" and "extremists" either.
 

h3ltrsk3ltr

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Ghost Tiger said:
h3ltrsk3ltr said:
Nowhere does he show any smugness in that post.

Exhibit A (smugness):

zero1 said:
But at some point one must surely realize, through enough introspection, that there actually is no sky god.

If you cannot see how this statement is smug, then you need to do more introspection.

Sure, if you're being over-sensitive. He presented his opinion respectfully and got shit on.
 
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