Can anyone give an update on the realities on the ground regarding enforcement?
It Is Time To Leave The West
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Can anyone give an update on the realities on the ground regarding enforcement?
I don't have kids, so factor that in, but from what I see the only answer is to fully unplug from the system and take them with you... 'no-schooling' etc.
Otherwise the societal pressure on them...
I hate flying so would love to see this, but from the looks of it sea-travel is impossible without a vaccine. Cruise liners don't allow you to board, and from what I've seen, freighters don't either, so unless some new entity reconstructs the travel industry I doubt its going to happen.
You need to learn how to sail.
An old man from Poland even kayaked a few times across the Atlantic so everything is doable.
Yes, there will likely be less and less room for flexibility. Become part of the system or leave it. When you accept that soon there will be no compromises anymore choices get a bit easier.
I think we should invest a lot of energy in building local networks of families. Forming groups and relocating together to favorable countries so we aren't completely on our own.
We will be leaving Germany for eastern europe (most likely Croatia or Poland) to homeschool and live rurally, as independently as possible.
are you Orthodox?
In the UK you certainly couldn't say anything the goes against the public concensus of what is good today as opposed to yesterday, and subject to change at a very short notice, without losing your 'priviledges'. We don't have not rights anymore in the eyes of the seculars.
On the other hand though, as we know history tends to repeat itself, it wasn't much that led people into gulags during the USSR. I simply don't trust ANY system that has man as the supreme authority in place of God, and I'm afraid that includes every govt today as far as I'm aware of.
Probably in Aus, but as far as I know in the UK where I am, no one kicks doors down to enforce cov regulations. I won't get injected and no one has perstered me so far. I'm not saying things are good in here, but this is a very individualistic society despite all the dogooder, brownoser, busybody out there in reality no one gives a shit about the other, which amazingly now is a good thing.
Man don't dispair. This world is all about change, consensus, relativity, man made theories and ideas. It's one thing today another one tomorrow, maybe even the exact opposite. If there's one thing you can take to the bank is that without God humans are as feeble as it gets, there is no constancy, no objectivity. So don't fret, no long ago it was nuclear holocaust, then terrorism, climate change, now a pandemic and possible forced mass vaccination. The truth is no nukes have go off, Osama was plant, climate change a scam, the pandemic a non event, and oh no one went to the frikking moon. So what makes you think these passes and forced vaxes is the real thing? If there one thing the enemies of Christ master is psyops and tale telling.
I'm not being stupidly optimistic, I'm a realist, but let's just take a step back and think this through from history and what the Bible tells us about these people. Christ tells us not to fear the ones who can only kill the body.
I definitely saw a couple of videos from the UK during the height of the first round of BS of British police forcing entry into private homes to arrest citizens for breaking quarantine...
Remember that we are still in the latter stages of the eye of the storm in the UK.
Vax rates have passed 80%, so they're giving the morons a false sense that it's all over... you hear people say 'during the pandemic...', BS SD markers are faded, no-one pays attention to NHS QR check-ins...
Stand by for round two.
I have asked friends who have experience with sailing. I see you are from Canada so I believe you would need to be entirely in international waters or check in at the first US port of entry, which would be a problem without a vaxx pass. If you have friends with serious sailing experience it may be possible.
Thanks. It is really easy to get down about this. Especially with the rising vax rates. Even in my own family my father took the vaxx and doesn't want to hear anything about the vaccines while my mother is very knowledgeable about it and won't get it. The ex-wife took one shot but is aware of dangers to the children. I hope this situation leads many people to reexamine their trust in government and media.
My Father took the clot shots, but apparently enough of his friends (anti shot) have said enough to sway his opinion on the matter. Once doubt is planted it may be impossible to remove.
Well, the masses are going to keep listening and trusting, which is not real trust it's rather submission and resignation, the media, govt and overall scientists and their doctors. Let's not forget the role of the medical complex in the submission of the population. The majorities have nothing else to go by and go on, they don't believe in God, or if they do it's in such lukewarm way that it's like no faith at all. Unfortunatelly most of our shepherds are in the same boat, the hierarchy certainly is.
But, regarding this event we're going through now, how long do we think it's gonna go on for? OK there is a substantial minority who have become hardcore about this, they will get as many injections as they're told, they'll download the latests updates to their slavery apps. They're in a twisted way happy to do what they're told, as in a bondage fetiche for all aspects of life.
Yet, are the majority going to keep up with this, how many injections are they gonna be happy with, how many more lockdowns? It's not theat they will 'wake up' or realise how everything in the media and govts is one form of a psyop or another, no they won't, but they'll simply grow tired, fed up, impatient and won't want to comply anymore with all this nonsense.
You can't grind people down with the same story endlessly, especially these days, that's why so many hoaxes and psyops, there's a point they become disensitised and uninterested. So, I think soon we'll be moving on to the next psyop.
I also think the point of this op apart from a bio/med/tech experiment with the jabxes, was to introduce a good majority to the reality of lockdowns, digital IDs, discrete removal of rights, and another step forward in the encroachment of corporations as governing bodies.
The level of deception going on here (UK)...
When all the media and everyone around you has bought the lie... even I'M beginning to question my questions...
It sounds SO crazy to stand up and go against the media, the politicians, your family, the 80%.
Once Bojos 'plan B' drops (which it will), and covid passports come in (which they will)... it's done.
I think there's something in the vax, maybe, that switches the brain to buy this BS.
It doesn't matter how many boosters they take and how quickly... once that covid pass drops it's done....
I can tell you from what I saw in Vilnius... the unvaxxed become second class citizens overnight... and from there increasingly marginalized with each turn of the screw.
Sadly, the only options are to join the vaxxed morons, or leave society behind.
There is no doubt in my mind that the vax passport will be rolled out as 'Plan B'. Vax passports are the globalist agenda, the question should be when not if.
They have invested in it, and are waiting for when the time is right.
Currently the narrative in the UK is to get your boosters so we don't have to face restrictions - then it'll be; that's still not good enough, followed by we'll have vax passes in certain venues, followed by, we'll need vax passports extended to more places.
Let's look at Scotland as an example:
"Mr Swinney told MSPs that the range of venues required to check vaccine status could be expanded in an attempt to head off a "dangerous" situation over the winter - and in particular the Christmas period."
If you can go to Croatia don't even think about Poland.
I like this point. I absolutely agree. Once the truth on this topic came to me at a dark Saturday-Sunday night at the 4th of april 2020, the notorious ''coronavirus is revolution'' Roosh hour, I just couldn't opt out and had to dive deeper and deeper. I think that at this moment at least a very large percentage of the population, which is active on the internet, has seen some nuggets of truth here and there. Why some answer the call and some don't, I can't explain. To some extent it's commendable that things get very rough very soon so that everyone who has any eyes to see can see that at least ''something is not right''. That's the first step, people must ask themselves questions. If they don't question whether what's going on is proportional, why the goal post keeps getting moved 2 months before, why it's still going on after the vaccines and so on, there's no way they can see the truth. Everyone has a personal path to walk, I learned that presenting the truth on a silver platter has absolutely 0 effect, people will just not look into it or if they do they'll discard it as they don't have the intrinsic motivation nor the willingness to go deep, invest and understand it. The best way to go about it is to say, when someone asks why don't you take the vaccine ''because I know the truth''. That elucidates enigma, msytery, triggers the question what then is the truth? All the information is out there, if people want to invest they'll get to many of the same channels where we ended up.