Jack Phillips back in court over refusal to bake transgender cake


March 25, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) – Christian baker Jack Phillips is in court yet again over his refusal to create cakes that affirm LGBT ideology, this time for a “gender transition” cake.

Autumn Scardina filed a complaint against Phillips for declining to bake a cake that would be pink on the inside and blue on the outside to celebrate his “transition” from male to female. Two days later, Colorado Civil Rights Division (CCRD) director Aubrey Elenis wrote a letter concluding there was probable cause to conclude Phillips had unlawfully denied Scardina “equal enjoyment of a place of public accommodation.”

In response, the religious liberty nonprofit Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) filed a federal lawsuit against outgoing Democrat Gov. John Hickenlooper and the state civil rights commission, accusing them of ignoring the U.S. Supreme Court’s previous ruling in Phillips’ favor over same-sex “marriage” cakes and continuing to discriminate against Phillips’ faith.

In March 2019, the state Attorney General’s office announced that it and Phillips’ attorneys have “mutually agreed to end their ongoing state and federal court litigation,” including the CCRD action against Phillips, though the agreement did not preclude Scardina from filing a civil suit of his own in state court, which he did.

That trial began virtually this week, USA Today reported. Scardina claimed that she ordered the cake after Phillips’ first victory to test his statement that he was “happy to sell a cake to anyone, whatever his or her sexual identity,” but simply refused to create works that “would communicate a message that contradicts my deepest religious convictions.”

Scardina said she was “calling (his) bluff,” despite the fact that celebrating gender transition is also a message that conflicted with Phillips’ convictions.

"The message would be that he agrees that a gender transition is something to be celebrated," responded Phillips’s attorney, Sean Gates, who pointed out that Phillips is also on record declining requests for cakes with various other messages unrelated to LGBT issues, such as celebrating Halloween.

“Eight years is a long time to live under the weight of constant litigation that threatens the business you built and the people you love,” ADF’s Sarah Kramer said of the latest case. “During his first case, Jack lost a big part of his business and more than half of his employees. Over the years, he and his family have also endured hate mail, nasty phone calls, and even death threats.”

“This most recent lawsuit is a blatant attempt to punish Jack, banish him from the marketplace, and intimidate him out of business just for living according to his beliefs,” Kramer continued.

Over the years, pro-LGBT activists have grown increasingly aggressive in efforts to force private citizens to affirm and participate in pro-LGBT messages. The U.S. Senate is currently considering the so-called “Equality Act,” which would mandate LGBT accommodation from businesses to schools to athletics to adoption.
 

Slide-Rule

Sparrow
I would just charge an outlandishly large price for such a cake.

"I'll bake you that cake, $10,000, non-refundable. I'll also need non-refundable down payment of $2,000 first.

If someone complains, other bakeries may have that business.

Or these degenerates can go to another bakery... Or better still, they can go to Walmart, pick up a box of cake mix for $1, and bake their own cake however they like it.
 

Elipe

Kingfisher

March 25, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) – Christian baker Jack Phillips is in court yet again over his refusal to create cakes that affirm LGBT ideology, this time for a “gender transition” cake.

Autumn Scardina filed a complaint against Phillips for declining to bake a cake that would be pink on the inside and blue on the outside to celebrate his “transition” from male to female. Two days later, Colorado Civil Rights Division (CCRD) director Aubrey Elenis wrote a letter concluding there was probable cause to conclude Phillips had unlawfully denied Scardina “equal enjoyment of a place of public accommodation.”

In response, the religious liberty nonprofit Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) filed a federal lawsuit against outgoing Democrat Gov. John Hickenlooper and the state civil rights commission, accusing them of ignoring the U.S. Supreme Court’s previous ruling in Phillips’ favor over same-sex “marriage” cakes and continuing to discriminate against Phillips’ faith.

In March 2019, the state Attorney General’s office announced that it and Phillips’ attorneys have “mutually agreed to end their ongoing state and federal court litigation,” including the CCRD action against Phillips, though the agreement did not preclude Scardina from filing a civil suit of his own in state court, which he did.

That trial began virtually this week, USA Today reported. Scardina claimed that she ordered the cake after Phillips’ first victory to test his statement that he was “happy to sell a cake to anyone, whatever his or her sexual identity,” but simply refused to create works that “would communicate a message that contradicts my deepest religious convictions.”

Scardina said she was “calling (his) bluff,” despite the fact that celebrating gender transition is also a message that conflicted with Phillips’ convictions.

"The message would be that he agrees that a gender transition is something to be celebrated," responded Phillips’s attorney, Sean Gates, who pointed out that Phillips is also on record declining requests for cakes with various other messages unrelated to LGBT issues, such as celebrating Halloween.

“Eight years is a long time to live under the weight of constant litigation that threatens the business you built and the people you love,” ADF’s Sarah Kramer said of the latest case. “During his first case, Jack lost a big part of his business and more than half of his employees. Over the years, he and his family have also endured hate mail, nasty phone calls, and even death threats.”

“This most recent lawsuit is a blatant attempt to punish Jack, banish him from the marketplace, and intimidate him out of business just for living according to his beliefs,” Kramer continued.

Over the years, pro-LGBT activists have grown increasingly aggressive in efforts to force private citizens to affirm and participate in pro-LGBT messages. The U.S. Senate is currently considering the so-called “Equality Act,” which would mandate LGBT accommodation from businesses to schools to athletics to adoption.
I used to be a libertarian.
I used to be a libertarian.

And one day, for absolutely no reason at all, a certain style of mustache came into fashion.
 

get2choppaaa

Pelican
Ok, isn't there some sort of law that protects someone from being sued over and over for the same thing?
Tort reform is severely lacking in this country. I for one, would relish trial by combat for settling our disputes.

Would solve many of the issues involving no-fault divorce. Trump could have sued Biden and made good on those close-line videos... just to name a few things we would all have the pleasure of seeing.
 

Gremlin

Robin
I used to be a libertarian.
I used to be a libertarian.

And one day, for absolutely no reason at all, a certain style of mustache came into fashion.
Libertarians are way too passive and their live and let live jargon doesn't work in the real world of I'll kill you if you don't agree with me leftist mentality. Like democracy, libertarianism will die and finally be laid to rest forever, so a more unapologetic, grounded in reality philosophy takes their place.
 

JNick

Chicken
This is the fruit of Libertarianism.

Freedom! Freedom to do what, exactly? Sin?

Men getting neo-baginas.
Women getting neo-benises.
Kids on puberty blockers.
Free pornography on every smartphone.
Drugs are a-okay.
Fornication is a-okay.

Everyone is free to do as they please so long as they don't hurt other's right?
Because it's their bodies and their lives, right?
Your body and soul are not for you to defile.
Your body is God's Temple.

This is what happens when you live and let live.
People making up their own morality, rebelling against the Objective Morality.

Followers of Libertarianism are deceived.
Satan is the original Libertarian.
 
This is the fruit of Libertarianism.

Freedom! Freedom to do what, exactly? Sin?

Men getting neo-baginas.
Women getting neo-benises.
Kids on puberty blockers.
Free pornography on every smartphone.
Drugs are a-okay.
Fornication is a-okay.

Everyone is free to do as they please so long as they don't hurt other's right?
Because it's their bodies and their lives, right?
Your body and soul are not for you to defile.
Your body is God's Temple.

This is what happens when you live and let live.
People making up their own morality, rebelling against the Objective Morality.

Followers of Libertarianism are deceived.
Satan is the original Libertarian.
If you give reign to corrupt hearts. This is the result. They expect beauty and they get surprised that the ugliness of human sin expresses itself.

It's not redeemed humanity in resurrection bodies.
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Owl
Gold Member
Libertarians are way too passive and their live and let live jargon doesn't work in the real world of I'll kill you if you don't agree with me leftist mentality. Like democracy, libertarianism will die and finally be laid to rest forever, so a more unapologetic, grounded in reality philosophy takes their place.
In the immortal words of our esteemed member Scorpion:

This type of libertarian utopian thinking is utter nonsense. Have fun in your libertarian paradise that inevitably degrades into a complete shithole of debauchery and vice because you reject the idea of imposing societal norms and standards.

I'm sure your son will thank you when he is being brainwashed in school to believe that engaging in anal sex with another man is a harmless and normal past time, and your daughter will no doubt be enriched from being told by society that having dozens of sexual partners and multiple abortions in her twenties is no big deal. Or maybe your son winds up believing he's actually a girl, and your daughter mutilates herself with dozens of tattoos and piercings. Hey, they're not hurting anyone, right? It's all good.

The fact that Western society thrived when cultural norms were much more conservative and is completely disintegrating in front of our eyes in today's environment of "anything goes" (aka libertarian) social acceptance seems to be completely lost on you. Just a coincidence, right?

Of course, this is the inevitable result of an atheistic worldview that admits no objective morality, no standard for determining right from wrong. With no way of knowing the proper way to live, the atheist-libertarian has no solid ground to stand to determine his own behavior, much less to dictate the behavior of others. So he's forced to simply throw his hands up in the air and say, "Do whatever you want! Just don't hurt me!"

Obviously, when looked at in this manner, the cowardice of this philosophy becomes readily apparent. The atheist-libertarian is forced to either join in with the increasingly debaucherous behavior of his society, or withdraw from its corrupting influence. He fights for nothing because he stands for nothing. He just wants to be left alone while society crumbles around him, because in his childish desire to deny God (and thus objective morality) he simultaneously robs himself of the moral and spiritual foundation necessary to oppose the forces of destruction and decay.

Thinking himself intellectually powerful for refuting God, he has rendered himself morally impotent, and is thus powerless to oppose the corruption that surrounds him.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Woodpecker
Ok, isn't there some sort of law that protects someone from being sued over and over for the same thing?
For the same incident, yes. The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution articulates this via Double Jeopardy protection.

However there are two factors here:

1. A different sovereign can litigate against you for the same offence. For example, the federal government can charge you under one law, and if that fails, then the local municipality can, under a different legislation.

2. This is not technically ‘the same case.’ The prior case involved a gay couple; this involves a trans person.
 
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Towgunner

Woodpecker
This man is the evidence that Christianity is openly persecuted in the United States. Moreover the persecutors of this man is the lgtdkkjssjkh3874293&*^&# community. I've heard this man speak before, I hold him in very high regard and admire his steadfast dedication to his faith. He's a martyr in many ways.

What gets to me is how horrible the lgtdksjkjh48&#38#* community truly is. If ever there is an accurate insight into the true spirit of that "community" its this case with this baker. And the vitriol and the hate that comes from them. I used to mix it up with pro-homo trolls that would comment in the comment section of American Thinker or blogs like that. This is back when AT had it comments section. I'd welcome such exchanges because, and I'm not trying to sound like I'm awesome, I'd win. I'd destroy them. Not in any abusive or insulting or even rude way. I'd simply out-argue them. Every time and I went under my handle "Towgunner" (not sure if you can still look up old AT articles). This would result in predictable responses from the typical homosexual troll. They'd always devolve into personal attacks and, basically, they'd have a online fit. The things they'd say were just horrible. Once they were in this state and they'd start saying vile things I used to say back to them "you're a shining example of the homosexual community", because they were.

I see so many inherent character flaws in these people. Yes, I acknowledge that over generalizations are not good, but, unfortunately, that adage isn't entire correct. Indeed, there are plenty of homosexuals that are decent, aside from their perversion, yet, many are not. Just like not every homosexual is a pedophile, but, many...too many are. Their internal anger and anger towards others and hate, the deception...I could go on. Apropos, they're disingenuous. The cliche is that homos are so nice and fabulous...not until you say anything they'll remotely disagree with. The moment that happens, watch and see how quickly that "so nice, so gentle, so harmless" gay devolves into a raging, spitting, uncontrollable monster.

Never mind their perverted lives and their excessive compulsions, its the behavior and the apparent societal approval of their behavior that irks me. No one ever seems to hold their actions accountable. I've seen old ladies being beaten by these people...you name it. Its a function of a very disturbing historical trend. "They" label something bad in our society, which gives people a justification to be as nasty as they possibly can be to anyone among the bad group. That's when you see real evil manifest. On top of that you have all the neurotic issues gays have mostly with their own internal conflicts, which just makes for an all the more nasty person.

Worse still is the hypocrisy. More than other aggrieved groups, homosexuals, own the whole "no hate" meme, or they say they do. Nothing can be further from the truth. If there is any group that perpetuates hate and create new kinds of hate its the homosexual "community".
 
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