Japan Eases Immigration Rules for Foreign Workers

Ocelot

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rudebwoy said:
Dropping bombs of that magnitude on innocent civilians is fuckery of the highest order.

So is performing un-anaesthetised vivisections on prisoners of war for shits and giggles, but I don't think many Americans are holding a grudge (the Chinese are another story). I love Japan, but when it comes to the question of whose behaviour was more atrocious during WW2, there is no comparison. Also the notion that killing civilians is somehow worse than killing soldiers when the ranks are filled with conscripts is daft.
 

Christhugger

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There could only be so many more years where Japan goes on printing money and restricting immigrants with nothing bad happening until the rest of the world's people thinks "heh - look at that - a happy, healthy country"

Guess they're going with the more civilized "bring in some immigrants to blame our success on" than the "wait for the globalists to destroy us" option.
 

Laner

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With Japans debt to GDP ratio where it currently is, they could be letting the globalists know that they are holding a financial bomb. Keep in mind its the Japanese culture to be able to cut ties with the world and isolate themselves if need be. Forfeit their debt, shut their doors and wait out the domino effect that would inevitably happen.

They don't need to import anything if it came down to it. The people would work together to survive and they would still be around to pick up the pieces while the rest of the world shit themselves. I have a bit of mind to think this might be their plan anyway.
 

911

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Ocelot said:
rudebwoy said:
Dropping bombs of that magnitude on innocent civilians is fuckery of the highest order.

So is performing un-anaesthetised vivisections on prisoners of war for shits and giggles, but I don't think many Americans are holding a grudge (the Chinese are another story). I love Japan, but when it comes to the question of whose behaviour was more atrocious during WW2, there is no comparison. Also the notion that killing civilians is somehow worse than killing soldiers when the ranks are filled with conscripts is daft.

Actually, there is. Problem is, the truth is written by the victors.

Here's a red pill for you: far more Christian Germans were exterminated in Allied death camps after the war ended in 1945-50 than Jews actually died in Nazi camps. This was part of the Morgenthau Plan to destroy what was left of Germany in 1945. In fact more German civilians were exterminated in 24 hours at Dresden (which was not a military target) than Jews ever died in Auschwitz.

Not to exonerate Jap WW2 crimes, but the Allies were no better in terms of crimes against humanity.

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BaatumMania

 
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I tried Japan for a month before settling on Korea. The jobs pretty much pay the same except Korea's cost of living is lower (the savings on Gmarket are pretty crazy) and most homes are provided / subsidized (whereas it's rare to get that deal in Japan and Taiwan these days. This is likely because of the Jeonse system which makes it rare for a landlord to want to rent to a broke foreigner. So the company has to arrange the housing).

Yes this was even true for most of the foreigners I met at my Church (and they were from Nepal / India / Vietnam / Mongolia. Not English Teachers).

So I really don't know how Japan will pull off attracting more migrant workers when there's better options for migrants out there. Someone can chase the bigger bucks in Australia. Korea does alright for saving. Taiwan's weather is nice year round. Japan isn't offering a big advantage except cultural (aka Weaboos who love anime so they'll put up with exploitation to live in Japan).
 

Ocelot

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911 said:
Here's a red pill for you: far more Christian Germans were exterminated in Allied death camps after the war ended in 1945-50 than Jews actually died in Nazi camps. This was part of the Morgenthau Plan to destroy what was left of Germany in 1945. In fact more German civilians were exterminated in 24 hours at Dresden (which was not a military target) than Jews ever died in Auschwitz.

Not to exonerate Jap WW2 crimes, but the Allies were no better in terms of crimes against humanity.

I was talking specifically about the conflict between America and Japan—obviously, in the grand scheme of things everyone knows that the only real war crime is losing.
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

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rudebwoy said:
TigerMandingo said:
Pride male said:
Why do whites like Japan so much? What about Pearl Harbour and the marches of death?

Great food, pleasant women, amazing culture and an all-around beautiful country.

The Japanese also are not grudge-holders, and for the most part they've forgotten about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Pearl Harbor has no relevance anymore, either. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Complete BS, deep down their is a hatred towards the Americans.

Dropping bombs of that magnitude on innocent civilians is fuckery of the highest order.

More people died in the conventional bombing of Tokyo than in either Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Why is it worse to kill civilians with one huge bomb than to kill an even greater number in a span of a few hours with thousands of small bombs? That's pure hamster logic.

The psychological effect of a-bombs saved a million Allied lives, probably 5-10 million Japanese lives, and almost certainly saved Japan from being partitioned with the northern half of the country under brutal Soviet occupation the way Korea and Germany were. The real-life demonstration also helped prevent a full-fledged shooting war between the US and USSR that would have killed more tens of millions. You could make a pretty convincing argument that nuclear weapons have saved more lives than almost any other invention in human history--up there with penicillin and modern sanitation.
 

Aszhaeleos

 
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Dr Mantis Toboggan said:
rudebwoy said:
TigerMandingo said:
Pride male said:
Why do whites like Japan so much? What about Pearl Harbour and the marches of death?

Great food, pleasant women, amazing culture and an all-around beautiful country.

The Japanese also are not grudge-holders, and for the most part they've forgotten about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Pearl Harbor has no relevance anymore, either. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Complete BS, deep down their is a hatred towards the Americans.

Dropping bombs of that magnitude on innocent civilians is fuckery of the highest order.

More people died in the conventional bombing of Tokyo than in either Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Why is it worse to kill civilians with one huge bomb than to kill an even greater number in a span of a few hours with thousands of small bombs? That's pure hamster logic.

The psychological effect of a-bombs saved a million Allied lives, probably 5-10 million Japanese lives, and almost certainly saved Japan from being partitioned with the northern half of the country under brutal Soviet occupation the way Korea and Germany were. The real-life demonstration also helped prevent a full-fledged shooting war between the US and USSR that would have killed more tens of millions. You could make a pretty convincing argument that nuclear weapons have saved more lives than almost any other invention in human history--up there with penicillin and modern sanitation.

Absolute Bullshit. Only a fucking moron or someone with a hateful agenda could believe such propaganda tripe.

Its the same horseshit where people justify Eisenhower's death camps, the allied carpet bombing of civilian targets and war refugee's and all sorts of despicable shit carried out by the 'victors'.
 
Aszhaeleos said:
Absolute Bullshit. Only a fucking moron or someone with a hateful agenda could believe such propaganda tripe.

Its the same horseshit where people justify Eisenhower's death camps, the allied carpet bombing of civilian targets and war refugee's and all sorts of despicable shit carried out by the 'victors'.

Within the last 24 hours I had a Japanese guy say pretty much the same thing to me over beers at a nice little yakiniku place in Shinbashi, that the nuclear bombings were preferable to having the Japanese slaughtered in a protracted ground conflict before being turned over to the soviets to starve in death camps. This was a guy who's fairly well-known for his extensive knowledge of history, and I'd bet at least one person reading this would recognize his name. (He blew up at me when I didn't remember what the "Hull Note" was and told me I needed to read more history books, which was a new experience for me considering half my library is books on the pacific war.)

Given that it's unlikely that he's a "fucking moron", would you say that he had some kind of hateful agenda against his own race, then? Would love to hear your analysis.
 

infowarrior1

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I see only the Allied firebombing of Dresden that is absolutely unjustified even militarily. Its not even collateral damage.


Plus even Japanese civilians were taught to act as enemy combatants as a result of the ruling Ideology at the time. Correct me if I am wrong on that fact.

This plus the need to intimidate the Soviet Union and prevent them from attempting to make a move on Japan.
 

Richard Turpin

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Japanese civilians were taught to act as enemy combatants, but they were still old men, women and children armed with nothing but knives and sticks. Unlike the Japanese Infantryman, they would be no match for American G.I's.

Winning a war is nothing to be ashamed of, but I've lived long enough to seriously question the idea of the US and British having the moral high ground anymore.

Dropping nuclear weapons on women, children and babies living in paper houses is as much a war-crime as any other war-crime I've read about. You can't even use the excuse that they 'voted in' their rulers as is sometimes said about the doomed residents of Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin etc.

They dropped those shiny new bombs because they wanted to show off to Russia. They were unaware of course that many of the people working on those weapons owed their allegiance to themselves, and not their country, so 2 weeks later the Russians had the blueprints thanks to their spies.

Regarding Europe, the allies built loads of massive bombers right from the start of the war. These bombers couldn't be used for anything else but the indiscriminate carpet-bombing of cities. The Germans on the other hand had medium range precision bombers meant only for military targets. On the other hand, they had shitloads of fighters. They were totally expecting another sort of air-war, in the end hoping technology would come to their rescue with the V weapons.

But all that's by-the-by and the only thing that matters in War is winning the fucker. But we should be under no illusion that you only win them by being complete, utter bastards.

Back to topic; the Japs need to snap out of this nonsense and get back to making their borders tighter than a nun's arsehole again.
 
Richard Turpin said:
Winning a war is nothing to be ashamed of, but I've lived long enough to seriously question the idea of the US and British having the moral high ground anymore.

Dropping nuclear weapons on women, children and babies living in paper houses is as much a war-crime as any other war-crime I've read about. You can't even use the excuse that they 'voted in' their rulers as is sometimes said about the doomed residents of Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin etc.

They dropped those shiny new bombs because they wanted to show off to Russia.

How many people do you think would've died in a ground invasion of Japan, and in the ensuing years after that when god-knows-how-much-of-it went to the Soviets? Just a ballpark number.
 

Richard Turpin

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SamuelBRoberts said:
Richard Turpin said:
Winning a war is nothing to be ashamed of, but I've lived long enough to seriously question the idea of the US and British having the moral high ground anymore.

Dropping nuclear weapons on women, children and babies living in paper houses is as much a war-crime as any other war-crime I've read about. You can't even use the excuse that they 'voted in' their rulers as is sometimes said about the doomed residents of Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin etc.

They dropped those shiny new bombs because they wanted to show off to Russia.

How many people do you think would've died in a ground invasion of Japan, and in the ensuing years after that when god-knows-how-much-of-it went to the Soviets? Just a ballpark number.

A helluva lot, I'll grant you. No doubt about it. But weren't they on the verge of surrendering at that point anyway? Having lost their navy? Just what I've read, I'm no historian, mind-you.

I'm not even saying I wouldn't have made the same decision, just that I wouldn't have slept easily afterwards. Something about aerial bombing always sickens me.
 
I think it's about time to let go of WW2 pride.

This is really funny how the same guys telling us we can't have pride in our ancestors works, still try to push pride in "winning" against Japan and Germany as if it didn't lead to 50 years of Sovjet dominance and the destruction of western christian society.
 

infowarrior1

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nomadbrah said:
I think it's about time to let go of WW2 pride.

This is really funny how the same guys telling us we can't have pride in our ancestors works, still try to push pride in "winning" against Japan and Germany as if it didn't lead to 50 years of Sovjet dominance and the destruction of western christian society.

It should be selective pride. Pride in the good our ancestors did whilst not really endorsing what can be decisively proven to be evil or incompetent.


The good and the bad. Warts and all. Lessons on what to do and not what to do. And how to surpass them if possible.
 

infowarrior1

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Protestant
Richard Turpin said:
SamuelBRoberts said:
Richard Turpin said:
Winning a war is nothing to be ashamed of, but I've lived long enough to seriously question the idea of the US and British having the moral high ground anymore.

Dropping nuclear weapons on women, children and babies living in paper houses is as much a war-crime as any other war-crime I've read about. You can't even use the excuse that they 'voted in' their rulers as is sometimes said about the doomed residents of Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin etc.

They dropped those shiny new bombs because they wanted to show off to Russia.

How many people do you think would've died in a ground invasion of Japan, and in the ensuing years after that when god-knows-how-much-of-it went to the Soviets? Just a ballpark number.

A helluva lot, I'll grant you. No doubt about it. But weren't they on the verge of surrendering at that point anyway? Having lost their navy? Just what I've read, I'm no historian, mind-you.

I'm not even saying I wouldn't have made the same decision, just that I wouldn't have slept easily afterwards. Something about aerial bombing always sickens me.

Unlike man-on-man combat it seems arbitrary. Nothing to do with skill or valor. Simple carnage and slaughter.
 

911

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nomadbrah said:
I think it's about time to let go of WW2 pride.

This is really funny how the same guys telling us we can't have pride in our ancestors works, still try to push pride in "winning" against Japan and Germany as if it didn't lead to 50 years of Sovjet dominance and the destruction of western christian society.

The only reason we had Soviet dominance was because the globalists who ruled the West wanted it. Patton would have kicked Stalin's ass and liberated eastern Europe in a couple of weeks back in the summer of 45, saving millions of Germans, Ukrainians, Poles etc. Instead Morgenthau and the other globalists in charge had this great American hero killed. Not only this, but the globalists also actively supported the Soviets through lend-lease programs providing key technologies for their military and industry, capital and vital supplies.

Sam Roberts: the trope of millions killed in a ground war to conquer Japan is BS, Japan was ready to surrender, according to top US military analysts. This is one of those many big lies wrapped around WW2, like the fact that Roosevelt let Pearl Harbor happen in order to make sure the US goes all out into the war, or the fact that gas chambers didn't really exist in Auschwitz and other nazi labor camps. As well, Nagasaki was probably chosen as a target because it was the main Christian city in Japan.
 
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