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<blockquote data-quote="Hermetic Seal" data-source="post: 1483627" data-attributes="member: 10915">I watched about half of that video a while back. It was tedious girl-gossip-tier stuff. &quot;Look at Dyer associating with this weird guy a decade ago! And this other weird guy! And he changed his beliefs a bunch of times!&quot; Shallow, petty stuff. I really don&#039;t care about what Dyer was doing a decade ago when he was interested in weird mystical nonsense, I care about what he&#039;s doing now that he&#039;s Orthodox. The Dimond brothers are just throwing a bunch of poop against the wall hoping some of it sticks.Most of the criticism of Dyer is non-sequitur. &quot;He&#039;s mean! He made so-and-so unhappy!&quot; I really don&#039;t care about any of this. Dyer doesn&#039;t claim to be a spiritual leader or role model, he&#039;s an apologist who serves a specific role and the frequency of these criticisms really highlights the unhealthy degree to which many people want to turn internet content creators into heroes or role models, which is good for neither party. Dyer seems to handle it a lot better than, say, Owen Benjamin or Vox Day; Dyer is a smart guy who knows patristics and theology forward and backward but can also be silly and not take himself deadly serious all the time.If you want edifying Orthodox teaching, there are a lot of great guys out there doing that - Abbot Tryphon, Hieromonk Kosmas, Fr. Spyridon Bailey, Fr. Josiah Trenham. If you need to know the answers to some complex theological topic, or how to answer Catholic apologists, Dyer is one of the guys who&#039;s good at that. (Or if you&#039;re interested in Hollywood shenanigans or movies, but I don&#039;t pay much attention to that output.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hermetic Seal, post: 1483627, member: 10915"] I watched about half of that video a while back. It was tedious girl-gossip-tier stuff. "Look at Dyer associating with this weird guy a decade ago! And this other weird guy! And he changed his beliefs a bunch of times!" Shallow, petty stuff. I really don't care about what Dyer was doing a decade ago when he was interested in weird mystical nonsense, I care about what he's doing now that he's Orthodox. The Dimond brothers are just throwing a bunch of poop against the wall hoping some of it sticks. Most of the criticism of Dyer is non-sequitur. "He's mean! He made so-and-so unhappy!" I really don't care about any of this. Dyer doesn't claim to be a spiritual leader or role model, he's an apologist who serves a specific role and the frequency of these criticisms really highlights the unhealthy degree to which many people want to turn internet content creators into heroes or role models, which is good for neither party. Dyer seems to handle it a lot better than, say, Owen Benjamin or Vox Day; Dyer is a smart guy who knows patristics and theology forward and backward but can also be silly and not take himself deadly serious all the time. If you want edifying Orthodox teaching, there are a lot of great guys out there doing that - Abbot Tryphon, Hieromonk Kosmas, Fr. Spyridon Bailey, Fr. Josiah Trenham. If you need to know the answers to some complex theological topic, or how to answer Catholic apologists, Dyer is one of the guys who's good at that. (Or if you're interested in Hollywood shenanigans or movies, but I don't pay much attention to that output.) [/QUOTE]

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