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<blockquote data-quote="Rigsby" data-source="post: 1267728" data-attributes="member: 7361"><p>I doubt it as well. Nothing will come of this. At most there's something going on behind the scenes and old jeffers is going to have to carry the can for a bit, but it's all most likely a farce.</p><p></p><p>How he earned his money as well is well shady, as in, no one really knows. Shell companies, within shell companies. No idea. </p><p></p><p>One thing is for sure, no names will be named and no one in any position of power is going down. It would be the first time in man's history. Not going to happen. He's linked to 'ex-friend' Prince Andrew as well who dropped him quicker than a hot coal.</p><p></p><p>Will be interesting to see where Maxwell's daughter comes in to all this. She was obviously the female/madame side of the operation. Mossad connection? Who knows. </p><p></p><p>Seems like they were running the old bait and blackmail gig on those dumb enough to fall for it. And as has been noted I doubt Trump would have fallen for that. There's only so many "dead girls and live boys" you can get through in one sitting of satanic ritual. </p><p></p><p>But power is intoxicating, heady, disorientating, even. To just be around it makes you giddy. I had a taste of it the other week as I mentioned and it's really been bothering me ever since. I've long mused on the true nature of power; in fact I don't think you can begin to understand what is going on in this world, or even come to know what a true satanic force is until you are prepared to 'meet with the shadow' and go some very dark places within your own soul.</p><p></p><p>There are different levels of power as well. I've mentioned before about knowing some girls and setting up 'gigs' for some private parties. Big amounts of money changing hands, relatively speaking. But even these people would be small fry to the Epsteins and royalty.</p><p></p><p>Don't forget, every powermonger needs his/her fixer. Someone he can trust. I think we were talking about this recently as well. You can buy anything in this world, but you can't buy trust and loyalty - they are priceless and if you can provide that service you have an in with even the top movers and shakers in this world. </p><p></p><p>Why do you think Savile got away with as much as he did? See how he moved with royalty, politicians, policemen (he used to hold a salon every sunday at his flat where he lived when he was in town). Savile was untouchable. He was twice and thrice removed from everyone as well. He would spot the most vulnerable kids and with his backstory he would get them to come along to meet the superstars of the day. And who knows maybe they had a go on the kids as well as all the police and politicians. </p><p></p><p>Here is a copy of Epstein's little black book:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.html" target="_blank">https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.html</a></p><p></p><p>I was looking for the person I met in there the other day knowing full well he would be in there and bingo! He was. Bernie Ecclestone is worth a few billion dollars - that's a lot of fuck you money. It buys you whatever and whoever you want in this life, pretty much. You can hire a whore for a coupla thousand bucks (so I'm told). Give or take. But more than that, you can hire the girl who works in the chip shop, or the girl that designs the bespoke furniture for your new yacht, or the girl that does the 'PR', or the girl you just saw in that club in Brazil who wants to be an F1 girl... or whoever takes your fancy.</p><p></p><p>One thing I learned 'working' with the other people I mentioned - the lower tier powermongers - is that it's true, everyone has their price. There were nice wholesome girls who would never consider in a million years polishing mistress' boots, well not for a couple of hundred quid anyway. First they don't think you are serious. They see it as some kind of test. But when the cash comes out and hits the table, and the faces turn a little bit more serious with earnest eyebrows raised, well, it's a different story.</p><p></p><p>What a girl wouldn't do for a couple of hundred bucks because she didn't think you were really serious, well most will dive in for 500. It was like a game to these people - to see who would do what for the lowest price. They even had bets on what price the girls would crack at. </p><p></p><p>Stick with me. I'm going somewhere with this. It's a story about the true nature of power. </p><p></p><p>True power means being untouchable, it means not having to say you're sorry, it means never having to explain, and it means never getting caught.</p><p></p><p>Remember, <em>with great power comes <strong>no </strong>responsibility</em>.</p><p></p><p>The not so clever and more eager to please ones would often be more than happy to do mistress' boots for 500 bucks once they realised they would be walking out the door an hour later with 5 ton in their back pocket. The more canny and quicker witted ones, held out for a bit more...</p><p></p><p>"Ooohh what sort of a girl do you take me for? I couldn't possible do <em>that </em>for <em>that </em>kind of money..."</p><p></p><p>So you double up to a 'K', in hard cold cash. Most crack by this point, if not all, and think they've really got one over on you, but there's plenty more where that came from. Keep in mind, this was never for sex. Not even any nudity. Just 'Mistress' slipping in to something a bit less comfortable along with her new 'maid'.</p><p></p><p>Think of it as 'Burlesque', 'edgy theatre', 'psycho-drama' or 'call it whatever you want' that just makes you feel a bit better about yourself in the morning and not needing to scrub yourself so hard to get the smell off. </p><p></p><p>I wouldn't call it moral. I'd call it a sin of sorts. But in truth it was just something that rich, bored, empty people liked to do on a Sunday or Saturday morning before or after going horse riding or shopping for their Veblen goods. I'm sure other people get up to far worse.</p><p></p><p>The thing is, just about every single girl had fun doing this. It was probably (definitely) something they would tell their friends about later as they took their fellow girlies out for a buckshee drink. How do I know? Well, a lot of them brought their friends back with them the next week. Sometimes you only need to light the touch paper and stand back.</p><p></p><p>Didn't matter if the girl had a husband or a boyfriend. A lot of them would just smile and say 'there is no way I'm telling hubby about this'. </p><p></p><p>Cash talks and bullshit walks. </p><p></p><p>Every now and again you'd come across someone that was so seriously offended that you would swear they were on the verge of calling the cops. And say what? Someone just offered me 1K to dress up in a nurse's uniform and polish their boots for them? Good luck with that. It's pretty much the victimless crime in a way, but I mention it because it is still a form of corruption. It was an interesting insight in to the human psyche - the female psyche in particular - and not to mention the true nature of power.</p><p></p><p>A lot of these girls I knew had just got off the banana boat from Poland, at a time when Polish girls were only starting to come in to the country (think early 90's). London, you need money for rent. And to be fair, a lot of the girls weren't the full picnic either. You might call them vulnerable. Naive they certainly were. But not all of them.</p><p></p><p>And the really clever and more mercenary ones were the ones that held out for more than 1K. 2K? Can I get 2K? No, 5K. Can I get 5K?</p><p></p><p>Yup. I never saw the price go higher than that. If they wouldn't do it for 5K they wouldn't do it at all and proved that they were really nice girls after all. There was a couple of them about. But not many.</p><p></p><p>This leads me back to Epstein and his operation.</p><p></p><p>The reason I told you about these people is because they had a very large amount of real 'power' relative to most people and especially to the young girls coming in to London at that time. </p><p></p><p>These people didn't need to use prostitutes. They didn't need to deal with pimps or druggies. They wanted real life down to earth people and didn't want to deal with the seedier side of things. </p><p></p><p>I, along with my LTR girlfriend at the time, just happened to be in the right place and the right time. </p><p></p><p>But these people were not filthy rich enough to own the kind of yacht that Bernie Ecclestone rides around in. They mixed with famous actors and lawyers (in their field) but not with royalty (maybe some low level aristos). </p><p></p><p>So it was with all that in mind that I kept my wits about me when hanging out with Bernie the other day. He was a little too friendly. He wanted something. Something that he thought a bearded bruiser like me with dread ponytail could provide (got a couple of nice little dreads coming on the back again - gonna be shaving it soon). It was weird. We had a great little chat and really hit it off. We had a lot to talk about: the middle east, carbon fibre composites, my time as a motor mechanic (but working on big 18-wheeler wagons) etc. etc. </p><p></p><p>And I just pulled away and said 'cya later' and walked off...</p><p></p><p>Something was not right. I could feel myself about to get in to a situation that I could not get out of. So I backed off. It was too weird.</p><p></p><p>And I now know how those very few girls who turned down even the 5K felt. They probably kicked themselves later (what might have been...). But instinct takes over and your fight or flight literally takes over your body. </p><p></p><p>Sometimes you just don't want to get involved when there is such a massive power differential. </p><p></p><p>The girls that Epstein had for 'massage' work knew exactly what they were getting in to.</p><p></p><p>In fact, if my little 'fantasy story' seems weird, it's not half as weird as the whole Epstein debacle seems to me. It just does not add up.</p><p></p><p>Think about it. These girls are highly vetted to keep their mouths shut. At that level of the game they might even be taught that snitches don't just end up with stitches, but they end up in ditches. You don't just go up against royalty like that unless you are very very brave or very very stupid or very very affiliated with another powermonger that has the power to protect you and your family. Game of thrones this is.</p><p></p><p>I know exactly the type of girls Epstein was in to - the same as all the other high level power mongers are. Real, nice girls, who can't believe their luck and will keep their traps shut for a couple of hundred bucks. I find it hard to believe he was only offering them that when he could have just times it by ten and for a coupla thousand bucks, who wouldn't keep their gob shut?</p><p></p><p>But no, he decided to act like a creep. Doesn't make sense. </p><p></p><p>If you are in to that dark side, you don't act like a creep. You buy girls, you have them kidnapped to order if you like, you get them trafficked (as is what they were supposed to be accused of).</p><p></p><p>So what was it? A bit of 'harmless' kinky massage? or young girls abducted to order and flown out to 'rape island' whilst still freshly drugged up?</p><p></p><p>There is not much middle ground with this stuff, if you follow me.</p><p></p><p>I knew some very dodgy people in the fetish scene in London at that time and they made my skin crawl. I wanted nothing to do with them.</p><p></p><p>The people that I have told you about were respectable 'non-scene' professionals, and this little game they used to play was just that to them: a game. They played those girls the same way we gamed girls when we were younger. Doesn't make it right. I put this out there for historical analysis and educational purposes. </p><p></p><p>I think my point is really this:</p><p></p><p>Epstein et al don't really seem like the kiddy kidnapping and torturing kind to me (might be wrong). There is so much you can get women to do even if it is via role play, for the right amoung of cash (dubai anyone?). You can go to EE and get the most stunning women in the world that will agree to be beaten black and blue (if that is your thing) for a coupla thousand bucks. Small change. </p><p></p><p>So why all this fuss and exposure over this? Why is it being dragged up again. This guy almost got away with murder. Even when he was imprisoned he was allowed to go to work each day! It was a joke.</p><p></p><p>This is either the 'circuses' bit of the 'bread and circuses' game, or it is internecine squabblng and vying for power a la game of thrones. Or who knows what. </p><p></p><p>One thing, it is most certainly not, is a new day, a new dawn, where these degenerate boomers will be brought to book. Not going to happen.</p><p></p><p>I thought at first when this reared its ugly head again it might be a power play to get at Trump, but Roosh's analysis seems plausible as to why this is probably not the case.</p><p></p><p>Remember, some of these people are demons. </p><p></p><p>Young girls find themselves in dungeons in chateaus in France and wake up to find themselve chained to a rack. Then it's all down hill from there for them. And no one ever even knows they are missing. And no one ever knows their fate. The disappeared. Rest their souls.</p><p></p><p>This whole Epstein shit show just doesn't make sense to me. There is no logic in it anywhere. It will be interesting to see how it pans out, but without a doubt it will fizzle out.</p><p></p><p>And then they will present us with another false dawn...</p><p></p><p></p><p>My prediction: This will bubble along for a bit. Maybe Epstein gets pretend jail again. And the people who this whole charade was really for are brought back in to line. No PM's or Presidents will do time. Not even Maxwell's daughter (the fixer) or the other lowly minions.</p><p></p><p>A circus show. Smoke and mirrors.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyway, here's the link again for Epstein's little (redacted) black book:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.html" target="_blank">https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.html</a></p><p></p><p>Some very interesting people in there!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rigsby, post: 1267728, member: 7361"] I doubt it as well. Nothing will come of this. At most there's something going on behind the scenes and old jeffers is going to have to carry the can for a bit, but it's all most likely a farce. How he earned his money as well is well shady, as in, no one really knows. Shell companies, within shell companies. No idea. One thing is for sure, no names will be named and no one in any position of power is going down. It would be the first time in man's history. Not going to happen. He's linked to 'ex-friend' Prince Andrew as well who dropped him quicker than a hot coal. Will be interesting to see where Maxwell's daughter comes in to all this. She was obviously the female/madame side of the operation. Mossad connection? Who knows. Seems like they were running the old bait and blackmail gig on those dumb enough to fall for it. And as has been noted I doubt Trump would have fallen for that. There's only so many "dead girls and live boys" you can get through in one sitting of satanic ritual. But power is intoxicating, heady, disorientating, even. To just be around it makes you giddy. I had a taste of it the other week as I mentioned and it's really been bothering me ever since. I've long mused on the true nature of power; in fact I don't think you can begin to understand what is going on in this world, or even come to know what a true satanic force is until you are prepared to 'meet with the shadow' and go some very dark places within your own soul. There are different levels of power as well. I've mentioned before about knowing some girls and setting up 'gigs' for some private parties. Big amounts of money changing hands, relatively speaking. But even these people would be small fry to the Epsteins and royalty. Don't forget, every powermonger needs his/her fixer. Someone he can trust. I think we were talking about this recently as well. You can buy anything in this world, but you can't buy trust and loyalty - they are priceless and if you can provide that service you have an in with even the top movers and shakers in this world. Why do you think Savile got away with as much as he did? See how he moved with royalty, politicians, policemen (he used to hold a salon every sunday at his flat where he lived when he was in town). Savile was untouchable. He was twice and thrice removed from everyone as well. He would spot the most vulnerable kids and with his backstory he would get them to come along to meet the superstars of the day. And who knows maybe they had a go on the kids as well as all the police and politicians. Here is a copy of Epstein's little black book: [URL]https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.html[/URL] I was looking for the person I met in there the other day knowing full well he would be in there and bingo! He was. Bernie Ecclestone is worth a few billion dollars - that's a lot of fuck you money. It buys you whatever and whoever you want in this life, pretty much. You can hire a whore for a coupla thousand bucks (so I'm told). Give or take. But more than that, you can hire the girl who works in the chip shop, or the girl that designs the bespoke furniture for your new yacht, or the girl that does the 'PR', or the girl you just saw in that club in Brazil who wants to be an F1 girl... or whoever takes your fancy. One thing I learned 'working' with the other people I mentioned - the lower tier powermongers - is that it's true, everyone has their price. There were nice wholesome girls who would never consider in a million years polishing mistress' boots, well not for a couple of hundred quid anyway. First they don't think you are serious. They see it as some kind of test. But when the cash comes out and hits the table, and the faces turn a little bit more serious with earnest eyebrows raised, well, it's a different story. What a girl wouldn't do for a couple of hundred bucks because she didn't think you were really serious, well most will dive in for 500. It was like a game to these people - to see who would do what for the lowest price. They even had bets on what price the girls would crack at. Stick with me. I'm going somewhere with this. It's a story about the true nature of power. True power means being untouchable, it means not having to say you're sorry, it means never having to explain, and it means never getting caught. Remember, [i]with great power comes [b]no [/b]responsibility[/i]. The not so clever and more eager to please ones would often be more than happy to do mistress' boots for 500 bucks once they realised they would be walking out the door an hour later with 5 ton in their back pocket. The more canny and quicker witted ones, held out for a bit more... "Ooohh what sort of a girl do you take me for? I couldn't possible do [i]that [/i]for [i]that [/i]kind of money..." So you double up to a 'K', in hard cold cash. Most crack by this point, if not all, and think they've really got one over on you, but there's plenty more where that came from. Keep in mind, this was never for sex. Not even any nudity. Just 'Mistress' slipping in to something a bit less comfortable along with her new 'maid'. Think of it as 'Burlesque', 'edgy theatre', 'psycho-drama' or 'call it whatever you want' that just makes you feel a bit better about yourself in the morning and not needing to scrub yourself so hard to get the smell off. I wouldn't call it moral. I'd call it a sin of sorts. But in truth it was just something that rich, bored, empty people liked to do on a Sunday or Saturday morning before or after going horse riding or shopping for their Veblen goods. I'm sure other people get up to far worse. The thing is, just about every single girl had fun doing this. It was probably (definitely) something they would tell their friends about later as they took their fellow girlies out for a buckshee drink. How do I know? Well, a lot of them brought their friends back with them the next week. Sometimes you only need to light the touch paper and stand back. Didn't matter if the girl had a husband or a boyfriend. A lot of them would just smile and say 'there is no way I'm telling hubby about this'. Cash talks and bullshit walks. Every now and again you'd come across someone that was so seriously offended that you would swear they were on the verge of calling the cops. And say what? Someone just offered me 1K to dress up in a nurse's uniform and polish their boots for them? Good luck with that. It's pretty much the victimless crime in a way, but I mention it because it is still a form of corruption. It was an interesting insight in to the human psyche - the female psyche in particular - and not to mention the true nature of power. A lot of these girls I knew had just got off the banana boat from Poland, at a time when Polish girls were only starting to come in to the country (think early 90's). London, you need money for rent. And to be fair, a lot of the girls weren't the full picnic either. You might call them vulnerable. Naive they certainly were. But not all of them. And the really clever and more mercenary ones were the ones that held out for more than 1K. 2K? Can I get 2K? No, 5K. Can I get 5K? Yup. I never saw the price go higher than that. If they wouldn't do it for 5K they wouldn't do it at all and proved that they were really nice girls after all. There was a couple of them about. But not many. This leads me back to Epstein and his operation. The reason I told you about these people is because they had a very large amount of real 'power' relative to most people and especially to the young girls coming in to London at that time. These people didn't need to use prostitutes. They didn't need to deal with pimps or druggies. They wanted real life down to earth people and didn't want to deal with the seedier side of things. I, along with my LTR girlfriend at the time, just happened to be in the right place and the right time. But these people were not filthy rich enough to own the kind of yacht that Bernie Ecclestone rides around in. They mixed with famous actors and lawyers (in their field) but not with royalty (maybe some low level aristos). So it was with all that in mind that I kept my wits about me when hanging out with Bernie the other day. He was a little too friendly. He wanted something. Something that he thought a bearded bruiser like me with dread ponytail could provide (got a couple of nice little dreads coming on the back again - gonna be shaving it soon). It was weird. We had a great little chat and really hit it off. We had a lot to talk about: the middle east, carbon fibre composites, my time as a motor mechanic (but working on big 18-wheeler wagons) etc. etc. And I just pulled away and said 'cya later' and walked off... Something was not right. I could feel myself about to get in to a situation that I could not get out of. So I backed off. It was too weird. And I now know how those very few girls who turned down even the 5K felt. They probably kicked themselves later (what might have been...). But instinct takes over and your fight or flight literally takes over your body. Sometimes you just don't want to get involved when there is such a massive power differential. The girls that Epstein had for 'massage' work knew exactly what they were getting in to. In fact, if my little 'fantasy story' seems weird, it's not half as weird as the whole Epstein debacle seems to me. It just does not add up. Think about it. These girls are highly vetted to keep their mouths shut. At that level of the game they might even be taught that snitches don't just end up with stitches, but they end up in ditches. You don't just go up against royalty like that unless you are very very brave or very very stupid or very very affiliated with another powermonger that has the power to protect you and your family. Game of thrones this is. I know exactly the type of girls Epstein was in to - the same as all the other high level power mongers are. Real, nice girls, who can't believe their luck and will keep their traps shut for a couple of hundred bucks. I find it hard to believe he was only offering them that when he could have just times it by ten and for a coupla thousand bucks, who wouldn't keep their gob shut? But no, he decided to act like a creep. Doesn't make sense. If you are in to that dark side, you don't act like a creep. You buy girls, you have them kidnapped to order if you like, you get them trafficked (as is what they were supposed to be accused of). So what was it? A bit of 'harmless' kinky massage? or young girls abducted to order and flown out to 'rape island' whilst still freshly drugged up? There is not much middle ground with this stuff, if you follow me. I knew some very dodgy people in the fetish scene in London at that time and they made my skin crawl. I wanted nothing to do with them. The people that I have told you about were respectable 'non-scene' professionals, and this little game they used to play was just that to them: a game. They played those girls the same way we gamed girls when we were younger. Doesn't make it right. I put this out there for historical analysis and educational purposes. I think my point is really this: Epstein et al don't really seem like the kiddy kidnapping and torturing kind to me (might be wrong). There is so much you can get women to do even if it is via role play, for the right amoung of cash (dubai anyone?). You can go to EE and get the most stunning women in the world that will agree to be beaten black and blue (if that is your thing) for a coupla thousand bucks. Small change. So why all this fuss and exposure over this? Why is it being dragged up again. This guy almost got away with murder. Even when he was imprisoned he was allowed to go to work each day! It was a joke. This is either the 'circuses' bit of the 'bread and circuses' game, or it is internecine squabblng and vying for power a la game of thrones. Or who knows what. One thing, it is most certainly not, is a new day, a new dawn, where these degenerate boomers will be brought to book. Not going to happen. I thought at first when this reared its ugly head again it might be a power play to get at Trump, but Roosh's analysis seems plausible as to why this is probably not the case. Remember, some of these people are demons. Young girls find themselves in dungeons in chateaus in France and wake up to find themselve chained to a rack. Then it's all down hill from there for them. And no one ever even knows they are missing. And no one ever knows their fate. The disappeared. Rest their souls. This whole Epstein shit show just doesn't make sense to me. There is no logic in it anywhere. It will be interesting to see how it pans out, but without a doubt it will fizzle out. And then they will present us with another false dawn... My prediction: This will bubble along for a bit. Maybe Epstein gets pretend jail again. And the people who this whole charade was really for are brought back in to line. No PM's or Presidents will do time. Not even Maxwell's daughter (the fixer) or the other lowly minions. A circus show. Smoke and mirrors. Anyway, here's the link again for Epstein's little (redacted) black book: [URL]https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.html[/URL] Some very interesting people in there! [/QUOTE]
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