Jesse Ventura turns hard left and sees the light (Rant against Billionaires)

godfather dust

 
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Most people in America probably agree with him.

GOP style right wing economics (trickle down economics, corporations are people, pull up your bootstraps goyim) is only the belief system of about 6% of Americans (I'll have to look for that source/poll.)

I am not sure what economic system I would support. Certainly not capitalism. "That's not REAL capitalism!" seems to be the argument in regards to the current state of almost all democratic countries and the excessive redistribution of wealth from poor/middle class to rich.
 

Cicero12

Sparrow
Paleoconservatives, Natsocs, Integralists, etc. have been talking about this stuff for a while now. Anticapitalism in its final conclusion (the seizing of money from the wealthiest and forcefully giving it to the poor) is something that I have read and understand, but it seems impractical. Another tool like race used by elites to have the masses explode in an orgasmic rage only to return back to sleeping later.

I agree the rich are an issue. The inequality has only gotten worse, and there is no easy answer to this stuff. I think right and left wing dissidents need to sit down and hammer these issues, until a final policy can be done. I think something like that is doable.

Here is a sample I've gotten from Cultured thug's people, he's a nationalist from youtube:

 

BURNΞR

Ostrich
Agnostic
This issue is way bigger than just billionaires. It's Neo Feudalism. Corporations and billionaires are going to be your defacto government at this rate and everyone else will be some combination of serfs and slaves. Regardless of what end of the political spectrum you are in this is serious unaddressed problem that isn't going to be solved from rhetoric from either side. They pay very little tax and their gains are exponential. Right now they just bribe government for outcomes friendly to winners to continue their monopoly but with time this is monopoly is going vertical and they are starting to own everything.
 

Troller

 
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That guy is a ignorant fool. What you are witnessing in US is first steps of communism. One main goal of communism is implementation of a central bank. Not capitalism. Capitalism believes in competition. Private property. And free market. Free market has a number of characteristics. Atomicity (no agent by itself can subvert the market), free entry and free exit of market participants, perfect information and product homogeneity.

Communism believes in a dictatorship. More vomit and filth. But its written dictatorship in every communist manual. Central bank also. And more dhiarreia like state should replace the family in raising kids. It was plato.

US capitalism is being subverted by communists. After the fall of soviet union people got comfy and let their guard down. Expecting a failed experiment never to be tried again. They were wrong. Capitalism however needs to be mixed with traditionalism and christianism with respect to human dignity.

When the central bank keeps pumping money. When the government bails out big corporation they are distorting free markets. No system is perfect. US being the bastion of free market is being attacked by all nations and elites who don’t want it to succeed because US success is elite failure. Part of european elites and other elites despise US success. What US needs is a McCarthy. Without the faggot Roy Cohn. Roy Cohn detonated McCarthy work with his faggotry. McCarthy was a catholic. And should be made a saint by the pope.



I could listen to this video in repeat all day. Its beautiful.

The only use I can think of for communists is painting with them a white wall red. They should do the work blindfolded. It works better.

Communism is a disease of capitalism.
 
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Handsome Creepy Eel

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As I posted just yesterday in another thread:

It is a little-appreciated irony that too much capitalism inevitably leads to socialism.

This is because at some point, a company becomes so big that it becomes more profitable for it to invest in bribing politicians to give it favors or destroy its competition, than to actually invest in improving its own products and services.

We are already far past this point. Amazon literally runs its own media, the social media companies ban the spread of inconvenient facts and kill political dissenters, and military-industrial companies have its former employees in the CIA start wars for fun and profit.

The only solution to this is to have a strong government based on unwavering cultural values restrict or break up the company before it amasses that much power.

Or as they popular saying goes, "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

However, the above listed isn't a "right wing" or "left wing" belief. It's not capitalist, it's not socialist, it's not liberal or conservative. It's just common sense.
 

TXbro

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I just came across a Jesse Ventura rant going against Capitalism. Is he finally seeing the light? What is making him do this hard left turn?


I became anti-capitalist when I figured out that capitalists are behind every social Ill on the planet. I grew up thinking the capitalists were stuffy evangelical WASPS and that faggotry, poz, and other left wing doctrines were opposed to their interests. Faggotry, poz, feminism are actually bankrolled, promoted and institutionalized by capitalists. The agenda setters of the capitalist class are not in fact white. They’re )ews.
 

david.garrett84

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Whether you agree with Ventura or not, he has not gone “hard left”.

The problem with “capitalism” is two-fold:

1) We have today a system of corporatism/oligopolies. “That’s not true capitalism!” is overplayed by free market activists, I agree, but they are largely correct in pointing out that a few very large companies dominate economic proceedings and it results in a far less free market situation than before. A watered-down monopolistic competition (the name sounds counterintuitive but it is the correct one) is the closest a society could ever get to a free market, with lots of small to medium firms, and we are far, far from that. To maintain their positions, very large companies inject lots of socio-political gibberish and outright poison into the social discourse to numb people down and extract more labor and consumer spending from the population:
- feminism, particularly emphasizing two-person corporate drone households and single women seeking HR and other careers that end up maximizing corporate ends by parroting the appropriate political messages
- immigration, driving down wages and ensuring compliance from more desperate people
- hatred of White males, destroying the nucleus that made America and its government a world superpower and making sure that loyalty to kin and ethnicity is supplanted by subservience to corporate economics

2) Consumerism/irreligiousness/lack of cultural common ground has hollowed out society. Human beings are regularly psychologically barren creatures with little emotional sustenance other than weak social contacts even amongst “close” friends and the promise of relatively cheap plastic and electronic goods.

Pretty much all social and personal problems boil down to these two mega-trends.
 

Seeker79

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Whether you agree with Ventura or not, he has not gone “hard left”.

The problem with “capitalism” is two-fold:

1) We have today a system of corporatism/oligopolies. “That’s not true capitalism!” is overplayed by free market activists, I agree, but they are largely correct in pointing out that a few very large companies dominate economic proceedings and it results in a far less free market situation than before. A watered-down monopolistic competition (the name sounds counterintuitive but it is the correct one) is the closest a society could ever get to a free market, with lots of small to medium firms, and we are far, far from that. To maintain their positions, very large companies inject lots of socio-political gibberish and outright poison into the social discourse to numb people down and extract more labor and consumer spending from the population:
- feminism, particularly emphasizing two-person corporate drone households and single women seeking HR and other careers that end up maximizing corporate ends by parroting the appropriate political messages
- immigration, driving down wages and ensuring compliance from more desperate people
- hatred of White males, destroying the nucleus that made America and its government a world superpower and making sure that loyalty to kin and ethnicity is supplanted by subservience to corporate economics

2) Consumerism/irreligiousness/lack of cultural common ground has hollowed out society. Human beings are regularly psychologically barren creatures with little emotional sustenance other than weak social contacts even amongst “close” friends and the promise of relatively cheap plastic and electronic goods.

Pretty much all social and personal problems boil down to these two mega-trends.
Great points, especially #1. The reason why today's capitalism doesn't work for most people is because it's not true free market capitalism. The corporations and multinational oligopolies have undue influence on governments plus domestic and international institutions. This undermines the interests of the people who expect legitimate representation from their elected leaders. Unfortunately, there is no representation for hardworking people who willingly provide their labor to these companies. This is what people are referring to when they say "the system is broken."

The horrible wars and revolutions of the 20th century created tremendous global apprehension of tyrannical governments and political movements. Capitalism seemed to offer an alternative powerbase through economic prosperity but we are now realizing that the corporations have simply replaced the oppressive governments. And it is worse because now these companies are no longer just focused on profits or growth but also social engineering. This is why you see grocery stores in a conservative rural town push trans agenda with negative profits year after year or a FANG company spend millions to run propaganda in third world countries. Fat and secure in their monopolies, these companies now want the wholesale reprogramming of societies, cultures, and ultimately individual freedoms.
 

Samseau

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American capitalism had its death warrant signed after the Federal Reserve was created, which was the official start to our current age, The Age of Usury. Once it could loan out our own money to our people at interest, it was simply a mathematical inevitability before all of the money is concentrated in the hands of the few. This is because interest rates are simply an exponential equation; with every new loan made to the US government, more and more power has been given to the Federal Reserve, until we've reached a point where the top 1% own 32% of the country's wealth and growing geometrically.

It's not just here in America, but all over the world has this communistic money creation system destroyed the livelihoods of normal people. Hilariously, and ironically, it's a communist country which is least afraid to tackle the communist money creation system, head on. It's why stuff like Universal Basic Income (UBI) has become a popular idea: We've been a communist country for a long time (since the Federal Reserve was created, was the official birth), and while compound interest is slow, it is total and crushing, which is why now a few monopolies own every industry and all the banks follow the same political playbook (because they are all owned essentially by the same people through the Fed). Therefore, since our communist system is now obvious and laid bare before us, why not just drop the pretense and start doing basic wealth redistribution from the rich to the poor? Hardly any of the rich's income is deserved, so rather than face a revolt and get killed, the rich see it much easier just to grease the wheels of this communist banking system for a little bit longer before its eventual collapse, and give people UBI.

It is impossible to have a capitalist system without some kind of objective money standard, like Gold or Blockchain currency, because if the supply of money is not open to the free market, then of course everything that relies on that money will eventually be subjected to the same anti-free market forces.

This article on ZH explains it very well:


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Since there is always more debt in the system than there is available money to pay it off, this is why since the creation of the Federal Reserve there was an immediate massive crash in 1929 that sucked up most of America's wealth. From there it was easy to turn America into a war machine, take it off the gold standard (since the top banks already owns all the gold), and, now, turn everyone into a farm animal that takes his vax and works like a slave until they die to make their masters a few more pennies just so they can stay alive a few more years.

We work like slaves just to avoid death, even though our civilization has so much excess productive capacity we can afford to wage wars 24/7/365 days a year for 80+ years straight. Without the parasites at the top, my estimates say that the amount of work needed to keep our energy system running, roads, housing, and food, evenly distributed across 200+ million productive workers (with the other 150 being the young, old, infirm, drug addicts, etc) should only be about 5 hours of work per week per person. Instead people must slave away 40+ hours a week or more just to stay ahead of inflation created by our money overlords who need inflation to keep servicing their debts and make them even richer.

Additionally, as banks have sucked all of the money out of the system and hoarded it for themselves, we've seen the corresponding death of the real economy measured in M2 money velocity:


Notice, the banks have been especially aggressive in hoarding wealth since 2001. They knew that Americans were brainwashed weak sheep and no one would stop them from raping America, and they have. In 2001 they really stepped up their usury schemes and enslaved America's young through non-dischargeable debt known as "student loans" (a bigger oxymoron couldn't have been created as a title - people learn nothing, and are indebted for life for the privilege), and stepped up the war machine with the "War of Terror," because I'm pretty sure the banksters at the top (who are mostly Gews) knew their system could not last without more overt forms of totalitarian control and must implement the final stages of usury, which is overt slavery and ownership of human beings, just like it was in Ancient times. Vaccines and wars seem to be the tools to achieve this currently, but most likely these are just stepping stones for the final stage of slavery, which won't be pretty and has the potential to last for hundreds of years (once people are slaves, it is VERY difficult for slaves to break free).

There should have been at least 20 million angry Americans at the Jan 6th protest to burn down DC and restore their freedom, instead, the people here are emasculated, atheist, and ignorant, so most Americans will die broke slaves. America, land of the weak, home of the slaves.
 
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