Jesus Christ is coming back soon! Get right with God.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Mage, you seem to know a lot about this stuff.

[img=400x400]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDTSHvqW4AAjyNK.jpg[/img]

What is the symbolism behind the right hand pointing up and the left hand pointing down as portrayed in this picture...

...and your avatar?

I'm sure you didn't choose your avatar at random and I'm also sure you're quite versed in what everything in that image stands for. I'm sure you're also aware that the image above is widely used by luciferians and in no way some kind of propaganda driven by anti-pagan Christians, which is the usual go-to to explain these kinds of coincidences.

What gives?

 

[Psalm27]

If Jesus comes I will accept him. I find the idea of a God who's single requirement for salvation is blind belief, ridiculous.

It will be too late by then. God exists, evidence for it is that we are here and you can even conceptualize God's existance.

Just on the chance he doesn't come or comes later, I suggest you do as much as you can to survive this crazy world on your own.

I will follow his commandments as best as I can.

People have been hoping for immanent 2nd coming of Jesus, many times in human history. When any war came they hoped for that, when the black death came they hoped for that, when the Muslims and Mongols came they hoped for that. Always those who took some action had greater chance surviving then those who sat and prayed until slaughtered like sheep.

Maybe those who prayed and died were meant to die, and are now in heaven, a place infinitely better than this world. I would rather no one die, but if a believer dies and goes to heaven and a sinner gets more chances to repent, believe and be saved, then that may not be the worst result.

You think end times is now because you are similar to peasant in medieval times who cannot imagine greater horror then black death.

No, I said things can and will get much worse than they are today.

Maybe a few millennia will pass and humanity will be facing horrors and craziness much worse compared to the current one. Maybe Jesus will come only then. And maybe he will not. You do not know.

There have been also many false prophets claiming to be Jesus 2nd coming.

As I said I don't know the day, nobody except God knows. All the signs Jesus mentioned in the scriptures will occur in one generation: false Christs and false prophets who will deceive many, wars and rumors of wars, nation against nation (racial/ethnic conflicts), kingdom against kingdom (wars between countries), famines, pestilence (disease epidemics), earthquakes, Christian persecution and genocide (happening right now in many parts of the world), iniquity abounds (lots of sin), and finally the gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven shall be preached unto all nations, and then shall the end come.

We're at the last stage right now, the gospel is beginning to be preached around the world. The end draws near. It will be like the days of Noah and he will come like a thief in the night.

Matthew 24:37
But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark

So basically even just before the flood, everything was "normal" during the days of Noah, and so it will be before the second coming of Christ. You won't be able to predict it, we can only know whether that day nears based on the signs.

Maybe your blue beam will be used to convince you that it's operator is Jesus and you must serve him.

Yes that may be part of the Great Deception, to get Christians to believe in a false Christ, the anti-Christ.

Trust nothing. If you trust nothing and check everything with other senses and opinions then blue beam will not be effective against you.

Believe nothing except the bible. The bible should be your anchor.

God doesn't need your belief. He needs your good soul. He sees in everyone's heart and will save those who are on path to becoming more holy and will discard who are on path to become more animal. He does't care for declarations of belief or unbelief.

Salvation is God's free gift, and in order to accept it you must believe in Jesus Christ. You must also repent from your evil ways and be baptized.

Faith and hope are both weapons used to manipulate you. Believe nothing, hope nothing. Question everything, prepare for worst.

Christianity is propaganda teaching you that faith and hope are good things, They are preparing you to accept the coming mass delusion, be it blue beam or something else. In truth faith and hope are bad for you.

Faith in the one true God is a good thing. Faith in a false God is a bad thing. The God of the bible is the one true God.

 

[Mage]

If Jesus comes I will accept him. I find the idea of a God who's single requirement for salvation is blind belief, ridiculous.

It will be too late by then. God exists, evidence for it is that we are here and you can even conceptualize God's existence.

God and Jesus is not the same. Christians believe they are, but when a Christian hears a non-Christian saying or writing "God" and hears "Jesus" it is to much an you know he has been brainwashed.

Please understand that equation between God and Jesus is only in Christian faith. It's tedious to see Christians who do not understand the difference between faith in God and faith in Jesus. There is like a grand Canyon times a light year of difference.

There is no reason to for it to be too late to recognize Jesus as savior when one has made sure of his existence. There is no reason for Jesus to request blind belief in him.

Just on the chance he doesn't come or comes later, I suggest you do as much as you can to survive this crazy world on your own.

I will follow his commandments as best as I can.

Which version of commandments?

People have been hoping for immanent 2nd coming of Jesus, many times in human history. When any war came they hoped for that, when the black death came they hoped for that, when the Muslims and Mongols came they hoped for that. Always those who took some action had greater chance surviving then those who sat and prayed until slaughtered like sheep.

Maybe those who prayed and died were meant to die, and are now in heaven, a place infinitely better than this world. I would rather no one die, but if a believer dies and goes to heaven and a sinner gets more chances to repent, believe and be saved, then that may not be the worst result.

But we are talking about end times specifically here. Everybody will die, be it end times or not.

You assume the horror of near future end times will not apply to you if you believe and savior comes before that. But what i am saying is that you don't know that and you may get quite a bit of horror even before savior comes, if he comes. Therefore waiting on savior is not the right thing to do. Basically even the scripture that says that no one but Father knows the date of end times implies that you should not be waiting for them!

You think end times is now because you are similar to peasant in medieval times who cannot imagine greater horror then black death.

No, I said things can and will get much worse than they are today.

You mean the same, peasant also thought that black death will become worse and will be fallowed by vampires rising from graves or whatnot. it is natural to always exaggerate and project the current trends to the future.

Maybe a few millennia will pass and humanity will be facing horrors and craziness much worse compared to the current one. Maybe Jesus will come only then. And maybe he will not. You do not know.

There have been also many false prophets claiming to be Jesus 2nd coming.

As I said I don't know the day, nobody except God knows. All the signs Jesus mentioned in the scriptures will occur in one generation: false Christs and false prophets who will deceive many, wars and rumors of wars, nation against nation (racial/ethnic conflicts), kingdom against kingdom (wars between countries), famines, pestilence (disease epidemics), earthquakes, Christian persecution and genocide (happening right now in many parts of the world), iniquity abounds (lots of sin), and finally the gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven shall be preached unto all nations, and then shall the end come.

We're at the last stage right now, the gospel is beginning to be preached around the world. The end draws near. It will be like the days of Noah and he will come like a thief in the night.

You say no one know the hour but you are confident we are at last stage now.
Just before that you said you believe it can get even worse. Which is it then?

Btw, there are no great wars or earthquakes or famines right now, all there is is a lot of sexual sin and abortion. I say it can become a lot worse and not likely to become like that in our lifetime.

Maybe your blue beam will be used to convince you that it's operator is Jesus and you must serve him.

Yes that may be part of the Great Deception, to get Christians to believe in a false Christ, the anti-Christ.

Why are you ok with going to hell for being good meaning but being deceived?

This is why faith doesn't matter/ it's better to be good meaning but doubtful to everything.

Trust nothing. If you trust nothing and check everything with other senses and opinions then blue beam will not be effective against you.

Believe nothing except the bible. The bible should be your anchor.

Why? It's just a book. Full of contradictions, mistranslations and omissions. There are some good ideas in there that are good to live by as long as they do not become blind faith and tyranny of absolutism. There are also some bad ideas there that should be ignored.

God doesn't need your belief. He needs your good soul. He sees in everyone's heart and will save those who are on path to becoming more holy and will discard who are on path to become more animal. He does't care for declarations of belief or unbelief.

Salvation is God's free gift, and in order to accept it you must believe in Jesus Christ. You must also repent from your evil ways and be baptized.

You contradict yourself. First you say it is free then you say it requires 3 things:

1)Belief (costing the benefit of the doubt, I cannot agree with this)
2)Repenting from evil ways (I am ok with this)
3)Baptism (seems redundant but it's a small thing so let's not argue about it)

Faith and hope are both weapons used to manipulate you. Believe nothing, hope nothing. Question everything, prepare for worst.

Christianity is propaganda teaching you that faith and hope are good things, They are preparing you to accept the coming mass delusion, be it blue beam or something else. In truth faith and hope are bad for you.

Faith in the one true God is a good thing. Faith in a false God is a bad thing. The God of the bible is the one true God.

No faith is always bad because faith does not allow you to distinguish whether you believe in the true God or a false God.

it is always better to doubt, research and double check. In the same time you polish your understanding of God like a diamond.

 

[Mage]

Mage, you seem to know a lot about this stuff.

[img=400x400]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDTSHvqW4AAjyNK.jpg[/img]

What is the symbolism behind the right hand pointing up and the left hand pointing down as portrayed in this picture...

...and your avatar?

I'm sure you didn't choose your avatar at random and I'm also sure you're quite versed in what everything in that image stands for. I'm sure you're also aware that the image above is widely used by luciferians and in no way some kind of propaganda driven by anti-pagan Christians, which is the usual go-to to explain these kinds of coincidences.

What gives?

That is an illustration of a sound and powerful universal principle. As above so below.

I chose this principle as illustration of my profile because I have checked its veracity.

When this principle is illustrated in a scary picture of Baphomet it is meant to scare fools away because not everyone needs to be armed with this powerful truth. Think of it as gun control, where people unfit to carry guns due to being too unstable, self select out of the pool of gun carriers. These people can then scream and shout about the evil of owning guns while people with guns rule over them.

 

[wwtl]

when a Christian hears a non-Christian saying or writing "God" and hears "Jesus" it is to much an you know he has been brainwashed.

Brainwashed in the Holy Spirit. :angel:

only in Christian faith.

Which is truth.

No faith is always bad because faith does not allow you to distinguish whether you believe in the true God or a false God.

That's what the Spirit is for, the third person of the Holy Trinity. Stay far away from sin, be filled with Him and you can always intuitively recognize Divine truth.

This is what makes Christianity special, while everyone else has to refrain to worshiping idols, having drug trips, following overly specific rules made for living in the desert etc, and still won't be saved.

 

[Meliorare93]

Believing in the Spirit and/or Jesus is also Idolatry... You then no longer have a monotheistic religion but a polytheistic religion... And then I haven't started yet about the devotion of Maria and/or the Saints...

It's funny how Christians just keep on making thinking errors and just parley themselves around it... I'm pretty sure every devout Christian here will have a reply on what I just said.

I couldn't care less to be honest. I'm no Christian... I have respect for a lot of aspects of the Christian faith but it's just not for me.

 

[CynicalContrarian]

Nah. I can't see the Germans ever becoming a threat again, at least not militarily. 80 years or so of guilt for stuff that happened before most of them were born, plus most of their most masculine men killed in battle generations ago makes a resurgent Reich highly unlikely.

Oh I wasn't referring to a Deutsch power on it's own.
Rather, a new iteration of the EU with ten nations & Deutschland at the helm, with a new / revised Euro. Army.

 

[Mage]

when a Christian hears a non-Christian saying or writing "God" and hears "Jesus" it is to much an you know he has been brainwashed.

Brainwashed in the Holy Spirit. :angel:

only in Christian faith.

Which is truth.

No faith is always bad because faith does not allow you to distinguish whether you believe in the true God or a false God.

That's what the Spirit is for, the third person of the Holy Trinity. Stay far away from sin, be filled with Him and you can always intuitively recognize Divine truth.

This is what makes Christianity special, while everyone else has to refrain to worshiping idols, having drug trips, following overly specific rules made for living in the desert etc, and still won't be saved.

Receiving Holy Spirit is the same practical action as raising consciousness vibrations to Love levels in Yoga.

Christianity needed to include this 3rd person in their trinity to remain humane and to contain some true spirituality, because the first two persons are an ancient (((Canaanite))) God and a dead man, worship of both whom only lead to dogmatism, imperialism and confusion.

Shakti = Holy spirit.

 

[bucky]

Nah. I can't see the Germans ever becoming a threat again, at least not militarily. 80 years or so of guilt for stuff that happened before most of them were born, plus most of their most masculine men killed in battle generations ago makes a resurgent Reich highly unlikely.

Oh I wasn't referring to a Deutsch power on it's own.
Rather, a new iteration of the EU with ten nations & Deutschland at the helm, with a new / revised Euro. Army.

Same opinion on Europeans in general. The westerners are too feminized and the easterners don't have any particular loyalty to each other, or to the West. The best we can hope for is more nationalist governments like in Italy and Hungary and their doing something, anything to stem the incoming hoards from the south and east.

 

[Rorogue]

Sir this is a drive thru.

 

[VincentVinturi]

No one is coming.

 

[N°6]

Matthew 24:37
But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

If you believe what the Bible says, then the days of Noah are not merely a time of wickedness but very sinister. If you just view the Bible as a curious collection of ancient texts, then it is even more far out than originally thought.

 

[Psalm27]

God and Jesus is not the same. Christians believe they are, but when a Christian hears a non-Christian saying or writing "God" and hears "Jesus" it is to much an you know he has been brainwashed.

They are both part of the Godhead, the Trinity. God made us in his image. Our human trinity is kind of like mind, body and soul. These are one entity, yet separate.

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Which version of commandments?

The ones in the Holy Bible, AKA the King James Bible.

But we are talking about end times specifically here. Everybody will die, be it end times or not.

You assume the horror of near future end times will not apply to you if you believe and savior comes before that. But what i am saying is that you don't know that and you may get quite a bit of horror even before savior comes, if he comes. Therefore waiting on savior is not the right thing to do. Basically even the scripture that says that no one but Father knows the date of end times implies that you should not be waiting for them!

Horrors happen all the time, depending on where you are in the world. But Jesus mentioned signs that we should look for when the end draws near.

You say no one know the hour but you are confident we are at last stage now.
Just before that you said you believe it can get even worse. Which is it then?

Nobody except God knows the exact day and hour. But based on the signs, we can conclude that it is nearing the end. Yes it can and will get worse, especially for Christians who will be persectued during this period. However to secular people the world will look normal. Everyone was still busy getting married, drinking and having fun when Noah entered his ship and God flooded the world.

Btw, there are no great wars or earthquakes or famines right now, all there is is a lot of sexual sin and abortion. I say it can become a lot worse and not likely to become like that in our lifetime.

Jesus did not mention great wars. He mentioned racial/ethnic conflicts which we are beginning to happen due to multiculturalism and mass migration. He mentioned conflicts between kingdoms or states, not necessarily wars, but there are tensions between for example US and Russia/China, India and Pakistan, North Korea and US/Japan, Israel/US and Iran etc. He also said rumors of wars.

Famines may be on the horizon now due to weather anomalies from geoengineering, soil degradation and so on.

Why are you ok with going to hell for being good meaning but being deceived?

This is why faith doesn't matter/ it's better to be good meaning but doubtful to everything.

His sheep will hear his voice and will not follow anyone else. It's only casual Christians who support LGBT, female priests, abortion etc. who will be fooled.

Why? It's just a book. Full of contradictions, mistranslations and omissions. There are some good ideas in there that are good to live by as long as they do not become blind faith and tyranny of absolutism. There are also some bad ideas there that should be ignored.

It is written through men by inspiration of the Holy Spirit. It has the authority of God. There are no contradictions in the Holy Bible, King James Version.

You contradict yourself. First you say it is free then you say it requires 3 things:

1)Belief (costing the benefit of the doubt, I cannot agree with this)
2)Repenting from evil ways (I am ok with this)
3)Baptism (seems redundant but it's a small thing so let's not argue about it)

It's a free gift accepted through faith/belief. Repenting from evil ways is just a change of heart, you don't have to change your whole life immediately, but you must be ready to leave behind the sinful aspects. Baptism is like a wedding ring, it is an external representation of your beliefs and commitment to Christ.

No faith is always bad because faith does not allow you to distinguish whether you believe in the true God or a false God.

it is always better to doubt, research and double check. In the same time you polish your understanding of God like a diamond.

When you know the one true God is the God of the bible, then there is no more reason to doubt.

Receiving Holy Spirit is the same practical action as raising consciousness vibrations to Love levels in Yoga.

Christianity needed to include this 3rd person in their trinity to remain humane and to contain some true spirituality, because the first two persons are an ancient (((Canaanite))) God and a dead man, worship of both whom only lead to dogmatism, imperialism and confusion.

Shakti = Holy spirit.

No, Yoga/Hindu spirits are demons.

Believing in the Spirit and/or Jesus is also Idolatry... You then no longer have a monotheistic religion but a polytheistic religion... And then I haven't started yet about the devotion of Maria and/or the Saints...

No, there is one God, but three persons: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. God made us in his image, we have sort of a trinity as well: mind, body and soul. I hope this helps you understand.

 

[MusicForThePiano]

I'm on the fence about this. Most people I met who are Christian believe that He is coming back soon. Perhaps he never left and he is within all of us, and this is going to be an eternal struggle? I don't want to blaspheme, but at the same time, I can't help but notice how the 'end times' are a self-fulfilling prophecy conducted by the fake specials with this unholy alliance between top US officials, UK parliament, the house of Saud, Israel, and a few other countries, perhaps the greatest con job of the history of mankind, to convince every human being on the earth into eternal slavery, willingly.

I was debating this with a heavy end times neighbor of mine last week. He said that according to scripture, the real Jews are going to be removed from their blindness when Jesus comes back, I kept explaining to him the genetic history of those of the zionist kind to tell him that they are not of the tribes of the original Israel, and that the prediction that all nations will surround Israel seems pretty cohencidental given that much of that land grab was premeditated.

Could the armageddon be faked by some type of whole-world geopolitical ploy to kill or enslave us all? This is the more likely outcome I have been deducing in my recent searches. I know that Jesus was a real man, he is the Son of God, and that one day he will return, but perhaps what was written was tampered with, and we are led to believe the chain of events occurring are proceeding because of divine prophecy, but perhaps man is faking this divine prophecy by attempting to make it come true earlier, or man is faking it all entirely.

Bigger picture guys, come on now. God gave us rationale for a reason, and intellect for a purpose, we must be able to see what an enemy is plotting, even from years away.

 

[Sankt Michael]

Mage, you seem to know a lot about this stuff.

[img=400x400]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDTSHvqW4AAjyNK.jpg[/img]

What is the symbolism behind the right hand pointing up and the left hand pointing down as portrayed in this picture...

...and your avatar?

I'm sure you didn't choose your avatar at random and I'm also sure you're quite versed in what everything in that image stands for. I'm sure you're also aware that the image above is widely used by luciferians and in no way some kind of propaganda driven by anti-pagan Christians, which is the usual go-to to explain these kinds of coincidences.

What gives?

That is an illustration of a sound and powerful universal principle. As above so below.

I chose this principle as illustration of my profile because I have checked its veracity.

When this principle is illustrated in a scary picture of Baphomet it is meant to scare fools away because not everyone needs to be armed with this powerful truth. Think of it as gun control, where people unfit to carry guns due to being too unstable, self select out of the pool of gun carriers. These people can then scream and shout about the evil of owning guns while people with guns rule over them.

I don´t know if the symbolism is evil or not, but I recently watched this video where the presenter argues against it. He even shows a Christian image with the As Above So Below symbolism. I added the vid below, you can skip to 14:07 for the images.

 

[Mage]

@Psalm27

I am a polyglot and English is not my native language. I view any American who thinks the true bible is the English KJV version, which happens to be the most convenient version for him to believe as an ignorant imperialist imbecile.

The levels of solipsism required to assume KJV is the exact truth are astronomical and are possible only because Americans are many and kid of isolated and lazy to learn about outside world so such cultish group think forms.

In Europe even Christians understands you have to know many languages to gain deeper understanding of Bible, therefore most Priests and Popes are polyglots.

@N°6

Nephilim refers to Hellenistic heroes, there is no race of giants. Even Jewish rabbis will agree it's Hellenistic influence in OT.

@ Sankt Michael

You are a rare voice of sanity. Symbolism is shared by many even contra-dictionary beliefs. People who assume evil whenever they see a man with one hand up and other down, a number six, a star or whatever are paranoid and severely limit their life, because almost everything is an occult symbol for them, every random thing.

 

[rudebwoy]

How will he come here?

 

[Kurgan]

@Psalm27

I am a polyglot and English is not my native language. I view any American who thinks the true bible is the English KJV version, which happens to be the most convenient version for him to believe as an ignorant imperialist imbecile.

The levels of solipsism required to assume KJV is the exact truth are astronomical and are possible only because Americans are many and kid of isolated and lazy to learn about outside world so such cultish group think forms.

In Europe even Christians understands you have to know many languages to gain deeper understanding of Bible, therefore most Priests and Popes are polyglots.

@N°6

Nephilim refers to Hellenistic heroes, there is no race of giants. Even Jewish rabbis will agree it's Hellenistic influence in OT.

@ Sankt Michael

You are a rare voice of sanity. Symbolism is shared by many even contra-dictionary beliefs. People who assume evil whenever they see a man with one hand up and other down, a number six, a star or whatever are paranoid and severely limit their life, because almost everything is an occult symbol for them, every random thing.

Mage, The King James Bible is only one version of the Bible. If I recall correctly in history, Martin Luther had books taken out of the Old Testament because some of them favored Catholic beliefs such as praying for the dead. I think Maccabbees was taken out, can't quite remember.

Why do you think those who follow the King James Bible are imperialist? Just curious as to why you think that.

 

[infowarrior1]

Jerome who went to educating himself in hebrew I think also took out books of the OT/NT that do not have enough of the necessary literary/prophetic quality that would help make it scripture.

I recall him reducing the canon largely as what protestants use today.

 

[infowarrior1]

@MusicforthePiano

Jesus warned against people saying that he returned without it being absolutely obvious to everyone. His coming is as lightning visible to everyone. East to West not in the so called hidden places or invisibly.

Even the phrase "every eye will see him" is a reference to the absolute obviousness to Christs return so as to leave no doubt for anyone.