Joe Rogan's Most Red Pill Interview Ever

Jaihoo

 
Banned
Steve McQueen said:
Does anyone else think Joe Rogan is a bit of a dumbass that fancies himself an intellectual? I find his smugness super annoying at times, particularly because imo, hes a dimwit

Of course, anyone can see through that. He has a distinct limited vocabulary that has never expanded in the 10 years of him broadcasting/podcasting (does he read anything other than sensationalist headlines and instagram quotes?), he plays the "neutral" card when convenient, overall, he's a textbook sophist.

There's nothing wrong with not being Jordan B Peterson. I'm not one. Not many people are. I just don't like when someone who's not Jordan B Peterson tries to be one. But sophistry is good for sales, word soup mental masturbation.
 

Steve McQueen

 
Banned
Its less annoying than someone of average intelligence like myself trying to sound intellectual because that person should know better, I don't think Joe has the self awareness to understand how stupid he sounds trying to sound intelligent.

I think you give him to much credit calling him a Sophist, the definition I found online is:

"A person who reasons with clever but false arguments"

This would be more like a Michael Moore than a Joe Rogan, purely because thats Moore's schtick, guy knows hes a bullshit artist but uses clever but false arguments to justify his position.

No Im going to go with Joe Rogan = Dumbass with a platform
 

WhatTheFuck

Robin
Gold Member
Jaihoo said:
WhatTheFuck said:
Alex Jones comes across as a complete nutcase here. This is one of the most unhinged rants I've seen out of the guy.

Nah, that was one of the better red pill nukes. We need to stop fetishizing the notion of formulating and quantifying everything. We can't know everything, we never will. I know we have this inherit desire, but lines need to be drawn. We agreed to call lion a lion, but the lion didn't agree to that. We made that up. As we do a lot of things. We manifest.

I agree with you man and I can believe a lot of the stuff he is saying about the google super ai computer, however when he gets into the interdimensional beings giving the elites the plans for the technology, etc I do get a little skeptical.

Anyway, all I'm saying is that he needs to work on his delivery. When he is rattling off conspiracy after conspiracy rapid fire (true or not), I can see the connections but this style of delivery isn't exactly helping your average person become more woke. All they see is some crazy dude looking frazzled as he constantly adjusts his headphones speeding 100 mph down the rabbit hole.

Someone needs to tell him to slow way down, explain things in more detail, and give his cohosts some room to breath. Rogan is trying to do just that, slow him down and get him to elaborate some more.

Rogan knows his audience is pretty diverse and is just trying to make this stuff more approachable to your average person. That's not him just being smug, it's a good thing. Most people are gonna need clarification and details about this stuff Jones is saying and will be unable to just take everything at face value as an inherent truth.
 

General Mayhem

Kingfisher
Steve McQueen said:
Its less annoying than someone of average intelligence like myself trying to sound intellectual because that person should know better, I don't think Joe has the self awareness to understand how stupid he sounds trying to sound intelligent.

I think you give him to much credit calling him a Sophist, the definition I found online is:

"A person who reasons with clever but false arguments"

This would be more like a Michael Moore than a Joe Rogan, purely because thats Moore's schtick, guy knows hes a bullshit artist but uses clever but false arguments to justify his position.

No Im going to go with Joe Rogan = Dumbass with a platform

Lol @ "dumbass with a platform!"

I feel bad for you if you are so busy putting this petty shit under a microscope that you miss the entire point.

The JRE drives such a large chunk of alt cultural thought. It's crazy how many ideas and concepts we have watched trickle down from the JRE to the blogs and minds of others.

It's not like Joe is this all knowing guru but fuck the sheer amount of talented people he has introduced to people through his show is astounding.

Calling him a dumb ass is crazy. I don't think anyone else in podcasting constantly produces such valuable conversations.

He is the at top of the game in what he does. Period. There are a lot of people out there who have the same guests on their podcasts and those never end up anywhere near as interesting. End rant.
 

heavy

Hummingbird
Gold Member
My biggest takeaway is how smart Alex Jones is.

I guess I had no idea the dude was that intelligent.

Yeah, I think crazy too, but it's not that strange for really smart people, **especially with his type of memory intelligence**, to start crossing over into the crazy.
 

Sombro

Ostrich
Agnostic
I really wanted to enjoy this but three guys talking at the same time and I was ready to pull my hair out.
Agree they should've ditched the Eddie guy.

I listen to podcasts all day long, but ones with more than two people talking are nigh impossible to make sense of.
 

Steve McQueen

 
Banned
General Mayhem said:
Steve McQueen said:
Its less annoying than someone of average intelligence like myself trying to sound intellectual because that person should know better, I don't think Joe has the self awareness to understand how stupid he sounds trying to sound intelligent.

I think you give him to much credit calling him a Sophist, the definition I found online is:

"A person who reasons with clever but false arguments"

This would be more like a Michael Moore than a Joe Rogan, purely because thats Moore's schtick, guy knows hes a bullshit artist but uses clever but false arguments to justify his position.

No Im going to go with Joe Rogan = Dumbass with a platform

Lol @ "dumbass with a platform!"

I feel bad for you if you are so busy putting this petty shit under a microscope that you miss the entire point.

The JRE drives such a large chunk of alt cultural thought. It's crazy how many ideas and concepts we have watched trickle down from the JRE to the blogs and minds of others.

It's not like Joe is this all knowing guru but fuck the sheer amount of talented people he has introduced to people through his show is astounding.

Calling him a dumb ass is crazy. I don't think anyone else in podcasting constantly produces such valuable conversations.

He is the at top of the game in what he does. Period. There are a lot of people out there who have the same guests on their podcasts and those never end up anywhere near as interesting. End rant.

Yeah this is my point, he is well known because he is on TV so he gets a lot of traffic. Other ppl with podcasts and the same guests dont get same exposure because they are not in the spotlight like he is.

Joe fancies himself an equal to Alex Jones, Alex is way more intelligent than Joe Rogan, has a much more open mind and actually does the research on material he talks about.

Rogan seemed clueless on a lot of stuff, I mean he gets a guy on like Alex who is an encyclopedia of conspiracy theories yet he kept coming back to tired subjects like aliens and bigfoot, change the friggin record already.

He should have guests on his show like David Icke or Sean Stone, those guys really drill down into the deeper level conspiracy stuff when Alex has them on, its truly mind blowing to listen in on those interviews.
 

realologist

Ostrich
Gold Member
Joe Rogan is far from a dumbass. Is he the smartest at everything?

No.

He conducts great interviews. What Joe provides is great listening, questioning, pacing and an open mind which pretty much always results in great interviews.

I know all the autists are pissed he didn't let Alex Jones go but most of Joe Rogans listeners are not Alex Jones listeners. Joe had to have him slow down to bring people up to speed and nail a hard solid point instead of spit 50 points where people are still lost.

And Special Ed should be brought in for topics he has knowledge because he was way too underinformed and way too high.
 

Wutang

Hummingbird
Gold Member
^ Agreed. I wouldn't say Rogan is a great intellect and even in his middle age he still gives the same vibe as the stoner burnout kid from high school who think he's much more intelligent then he really simply because he's attracted to ideas that are outside of the mainstream. I think he's a great host however and he is very good at getting his guests to open up and express their ideas to the best of their abilities. He will interject his own opinions but he mostly lets his guests have the spotlight and he knows what questions to ask to get the most out of them.

As for Eddie Bravo, he's a guy who has a lot of interesting ideas when it comes to jiu jitsu and grappling. However, when he tries to speak out his area of expertise he comes off as even more of a burnout then Rogan does. I remember reading his grappling instructional books and the first parts of the books would have nothing to do with grappling but instead had his personal musings on spirituality and marijuana. They read like forum posts written by some 17 year old teenager who just discovered Anonymous for the first time.
 

General Mayhem

Kingfisher
heavy said:
My biggest takeaway is how smart Alex Jones is.

I guess I had no idea the dude was that intelligent.

Yeah, I think crazy too, but it's not that strange for really smart people, **especially with his type of memory intelligence**, to start crossing over into the crazy.

Agreed! When he rattles off the technical name of that chem trails doc in mid rant was both hilarious and impressive.

The few true genius level guys I've known are more crazy than the average dude.

That's a big problem I think for a lot of folks who consume news is that they need it to be fed from other mid IQ people.

You have to actually be smart to dissect the content of somebody above the IQ bell curve like alex jones.

A lot of alt thought is just too high IQ for a lot of people and they perceive it as crazy and get turned off.
 

heavy

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Rogan is...and somehow it's taken me a long time to realize this, being a huge fan...the best interviewer I've ever heard. Listen to his first Randall Carlson interview. Or that Peterson interview. Or when he has multiple guests on getting drunk / high.

Not sure how many of you guys are sports fans, but I've always thought Dan Patrick is great. And he is a great interviewer. But he's no Rogan.

Part of it is his medium. Rogan's only medium is podcast, and he takes up to 3-4 hours if that's what it takes to talk to someone. (he says this many times, how he thinks he somehow generically tapped into something valuable, the long drawn out conversation that people want)

And it's great. He has a gift. I'm not a big fan of his stand up. But his interviews. If he has someone with less content, he'll fill the space with witty remarks and little tangents. He mixes in serious and humor.

And again, if he has somebody like Carlson or Peterson or Alex Jones, he let's them go and knows right when to cut them off or re-direct or focus in or zoom out to keep the conversation interesting and informative. I swear without having counted, he'll let guests go for 20 minutes without interruption if they're being informative/interesting.

I know I sound like the biggest fan, but I'm simply stating the fact. I have plenty of times, maybe more often than not, where I disagree or think he's being a moron...but he's hands down the best interviewer I've ever heard.

Edit: Damn I just realized Realologist already said most of this.
 

Jaihoo

 
Banned
You need to listen to more interviews. He's not even close being the best interviewer.

His interviews are like his stand up comedy. He's a famous stand up comic - but he's not funny, we all know it. Same goes for interviews.

 

TTQQTT

Pigeon
Jaihoo said:
You need to listen to more interviews. He's not even close being the best interviewer.

His interviews are like his stand up comedy. He's a famous stand up comic - but he's not funny, we all know it. Same goes for interviews.



Lol you know that clip is edited, right?
 

Thrill Jackson

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Joe Rogan is very rational on most topics but when it comes to Religon and pot he goes full retard

Here he is with Milo constantly interrupting him and misrepresenting what Milo is saying in order to appear he has won the argument



Also, Crowder didn't even want to talk about pot and he keeps pusing it down his throat for 30 minutes +

 

heavy

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Unofficial Joe Rogan representative reporting in again. I found an excellent piece of an interview that represents the nature of fake liar "independents".

Take a couple minutes to watch this short example of a typical liberal.

These are people who claim to be any combination of libertarian / apolitical / independent / undecideds. In this case, I think Tom Papa would at least admit he leans liberal, but he would fight tooth and nail with a lot of qualifiers.

Queue up 2:46:55 where Rogan rants about the Russians hacking and exposing the DNC corruption. Regardless of all the facts, watch Tom Papa's initial response at 2:48:00 and listen to the next few minutes of discussion.


He bleeds apology to the DNC. Now pretend it was the RNC was exposed and how differently he would have reacted.

Tom Papa is a liberal. I don't hate him or blame him. I suspect he's mostly a product of his environment like most lib-tards. He's that guy, Mr Nice Guy doesn't want to step on toes, relationship guys, guys who don't want to face hatred blowback from the media, who will claim independence or bi-partisan or undecided who is simply a bleeding heart democrat liberal who will take that side regardless of mathematics or corruption or public policy results or historical facts.

As Rush says, a liberal is a liberal first.

Edit: In regards to the following discussion, I'm guessing Tom Papa didn't have much to say when Obama whispered to Medvedev that he would have more flexibility on missle defense after his re-election in 2012.
 

debeguiled

Peacock
Gold Member
Liberals are mad because they think Russians rigged the election by showing the public that the Democrats were rigging the election.

Papa: "Yeah, politics is always dirty."

I think you are right. He is a product of his programming. His subconscious automatically delivers excuses to his conscious mind whenever his assumptions are challenged. He is like a super super super lame Manchurian Candidate.

He has no facts at his disposal. He keeps just saying the Russians are "sidling up" to the Trump administration. Sidling up? That is not even a coherent accusation. It is just insinuation. He has nothing.

Thank you for only making me listen to a few minutes of that.
 
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